per Bob McKenzie...
What do you think?
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:42 AM
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:43 AM
At his current contract, no. If he clears, they buy him out and is willing to come here at 1m or so, without a doubt.per Bob McKenzie...
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:43 AM
They are talking about him being bought out... I would pick him off of waivers. Cap hit of about 3 million.
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.
Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:45 AM
I don't want him at 3m, 1.5-2 TOPS... I'd rather wait until he's bought out and make him an offer then if the brass is interested...They are talking about him being bought out... I would pick him off of waivers. Cap hit of about 3 million.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:46 AM
This. Current contract is too expensive for a guy who hasn't blossumed much in Minnesota... Not that it means he's a total bust.At his current contract, no. If he clears, they buy him out and is willing to come here at 1m or so, without a doubt.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:48 AM
$3,083,333 is too much? I think if he gets bought out in this market he could get MORE money.At his current contract, no. If he clears, they buy him out and is willing to come here at 1m or so, without a doubt.
I say take him for this salary.
To please LGW, he is only 25 years old. Ht: 6-3 Wt: 215
ASSETS: Possesses a hard, accurate shot from the point, which is especially effective on the power play. Can play a physical brand of hockey.
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CAREER POTENTIAL: Mobile defenseman with all-around upside.
I don't want him at 3m, 1.5-2 TOPS... I'd rather wait until he's bought out and make him an offer then if the brass is interested...
Remember, Ericcson is going to get 2.7... This might be a deal at 3.
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"It is a lot easier to be an ******* to words than to people"-xkcd
Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.
Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:50 AM
Ericsson is rumored at 2.4, maybe less...$3,083,333 is too much? I think if he gets bought out in this market he could get MORE money.
I say take him for this salary.
To please LGW, he is only 25 years old. Ht: 6-3 Wt: 215
ASSETS: Possesses a hard, accurate shot from the point, which is especially effective on the power play. Can play a physical brand of hockey.
FLAWS: Must improve his decision-making and defensive-zone coverage in order to become a complete blue-liner. Needs more game-to-game consistency.
CAREER POTENTIAL: Mobile defenseman with all-around upside.
Remember, Ericcson is going to get 2.7... This might be a deal at 3.
Barker has never played here and that uncertainty is scary, so that's also a negative... 3m is too much for a guy that has looked very out of place in Min... also, there's no way he gets MORE after being bought out, if he were that valuable, they'd be able to trade him and wouldn't even consider buying him out and thus, taking part of his caphit... is there still potential there and would I take a chance on the guy, sure, but not at that tag.
Edited by stevkrause, 28 June 2011 - 11:51 AM.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:52 AM
$3,083,333 is too much? I think if he gets bought out in this market he could get MORE money.
I say take him for this salary.
To please LGW, he is only 25 years old. Ht: 6-3 Wt: 215
ASSETS: Possesses a hard, accurate shot from the point, which is especially effective on the power play. Can play a physical brand of hockey.
FLAWS: Must improve his decision-making and defensive-zone coverage in order to become a complete blue-liner. Needs more game-to-game consistency.
CAREER POTENTIAL: Mobile defenseman with all-around upside.
Remember, Ericcson is going to get 2.7... This might be a deal at 3.
"Must improve his decision-making and defensive-zeon coverage". That scares me off at $3 mil. If he's going to be bought out anyways, just wait. If he does get bought out, he should be really cheap and then it'd be worth it to see if he could fit in our system. Its a good gamble, I would be interested to see how he does, but not at $3 mil.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:56 AM
Just remember, there is a reason he is being (possibly) bought out.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:57 AM
Barker's waiver price is $26,250. Can't be bought out unless it's a waiver price of $125. So this is first pass to see if anyone wants him.
If he clears tomorrow at noon, MIN would have to put him back on $125 waivers if they want to buy him out.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 12:27 PM
Normally I'm all for these reclamation projects, but I honestly think Barker is an absolute spud.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 12:58 PM
I'd take him on re-entry waivers.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:04 PM
Agreed 100%I'd take him on re-entry waivers.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:09 PM
I'd take him on re-entry waivers.
Agree as well.
As for..."Must improve his decision-making and defensive-zeon coverage".Give him a year playing and training with Lids and maybe he'll explode
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:11 PM
Even to a lesser extent, just being in our system and playing with the likes of Kronwall and Stuart as welll... I still don't know how sure I am that he can turn it around, but at 1.5, I'll take that chance in a heartbeat!Agree as well.
As for..."Must improve his decision-making and defensive-zeon coverage".Give him a year playing and training with Lids and maybe he'll explode
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:12 PM
I am also on the re-entry waivers train. I mean the guy was a 3rd Overall Pick and was doing pretty well until he got traded to the Wild.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:38 PM
If we take him on re-entry, what would our cap hit be, and what would we be giving up?
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:40 PM
Normally I'm all for these reclamation projects, but I honestly think Barker is an absolute spud.
I don't disagree. I just am talking practically now. He might be the only way to improve the Defensive corp and get younger this season.
I'd take him on re-entry waivers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but there is no re-entry process with buy-outs, is there?
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Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.
Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:40 PM
We wouldn't have to give up anything, other than his salary, which would be half (Min would assume the other half) so his hit would be approximately 1.5m (a little over)If we take him on re-entry, what would our cap hit be, and what would we be giving up?
All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:
and finally
Holland is a damn good GM. period.
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Posted 28 June 2011 - 01:41 PM
Also I doubt he would make it to us in a re-entry situation.
I was blown away by how little he progressed in the last two years. When the Wild trade came, I was surprised.
I am not surprised by what happened in Minnesota, that team is a mess now.
I was blown away by how little he progressed in the last two years. When the Wild trade came, I was surprised.
I am not surprised by what happened in Minnesota, that team is a mess now.
"It is a lot easier to be an ******* to words than to people"-xkcd
Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
This thread has been closed due to emotions being higher than people's ability to read, interpret, and properly respond to simple posts.
Tootoo does NOT belong on this team. He is classless and I would rather see the Wings be bad than classless. I feel the same way about Bertuzzi as well, but he at least CAN make the team better. With Tootoo the team becomes worse and in danger of being classless. Would you have liked Claude on the team? Or Roy? No. So why would you be okay with that POS.
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