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Heatley for Havlat swap

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WOW!!!! Big Move. I think San Jose will get the better end of this one. I'll say why because San Jose gets rid of Heatley and they cleared out a lot of cap space. I am thinking they may go after Doughty or Stamkos.

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The bottom line is that top to bottom, this might be the worst Wings team to take to the ice since 1991. And with proper foreplanning, it didn't have to be this way.

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Yeah, Kenny should have planned better, like the Sharks. Then maybe we could have zero Cups or trips to the finals, but we'd all feel so much better after losing in the 3rd round two years in a row.

The Sharks have been pretty 'creative' post lockout, if you define creative as 'making big trades'. Two blockbuster deals before these Minny trades. Haven't won s*** yet, and it's debateable if they're even any better this year.

Stop kidding yourself. This isn't about wanting the Wings to win. Big trades and big signings don't guarantee anything, and I'm sure you'd admit that if you could be honest with yourself. You, and all the other whiners now bashing Kenny just got your hopes up for some big, exciting move and now you're butt-hurt because you didn't get it. Like a spoiled kid on Christmas that didn't get that shiney, new, must-have toy of the season. You're incapable of appreciating what you do get. Like Veruca Salt. No matter what you get you always want more. The more you get, the more you're convinced that it's always possible to get everything and a good Daddy would get it for you.

But in the real world, sometimes the store's sold out, especially when the stock was low in the first place. Sometimes, when you're trying to guess what the future holds, you're wrong. Sometimes Wonka doesn't want your money, no matter how much you offer.

You don't know what Kenny tried to do, or is still trying to do. You just assume, since the result was less than you'd hoped for, that he didn't try. Or he was stupid, or he's lazy and sucks. People were saying the same s*** in '00, and again '06. A lesser GM might have blown up the team, and we'd be a Cup or two shorter or even in full on rebuild mode like the Avs.

In the space of two years, we have made it through a pretty significant cap crunch while still staying a legit contender. Pretty good work, even if the teams weren't quite as good as we'd have liked. Now we've got the cap room, but we haven't found anyone to spend it on yet, and maybe won't at all this year. But all you can do is act like it's the end of the world because maybe we're only a good team instead of elite.

That doesn't make you a discerning fan; it makes you a spoiled brat.

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Danny Heatley has been looking pretty average over the past few years, and is a playoff choker. Good deal for SJ, clears cap space too.

"Average" is a nice way of putting it. Playing with Thornton and Marleau, one would think his numbers have dramatically increased, not declined. I can't believe how terrible he's become since leaving Ottawa and playing in the West. Is the West really much more difficult to play in or is it just Heatley?

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Yeah, Kenny should have planned better, like the Sharks. Then maybe we could have zero Cups or trips to the finals, but we'd all feel so much better after losing in the 3rd round two years in a row.

Woo, it's 1988 all over again!

"Average" is a nice way of putting it. Playing with Thornton and Marleau, one would think his numbers have dramatically increased, not declined. I can't believe how terrible he's become since leaving Ottawa and playing in the West. Is the West really much more difficult to play in or is it just Heatley?

I know I've always considered Heatley overrated. Think about who he's played with in his career. He started off playing with Kovalchuk, then it was Alfredsson and Spezza, then Thornton and Marleau. I'd like to see what he does in Minnesota without help. Oops... he has Mikko Koivu. Maybe we can see what Koivu can do with Heatley and Setoguchi, compared to what Thornton did. Hell... imagine if a guy like Hudler or Cleary spent their entire career with these kinds of players? Huds made the Wings at 19; what if he had been put with Dats and/or Z as a regular line all season? Jiri Fischer is a great example... he was developing slower than expected, and was moved to a pairing with Chelios. Chelios helped him a great deal after that, both in terms of chemistry on the ice as well as teaching him and helping him develop. Fischer, not Lidstrom, would probably be the core of our defense right now if he were still playing.

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Woo, it's 1988 all over again!

Don't laugh, that's the year I was born.

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Danny Heatley has been looking pretty average over the past few years, and is a playoff choker. Good deal for SJ, clears cap space too.

You are kidding right? Or did you smoke smth.

Heatley way better than Havlat, same as Setoguchi trade. Bad deal imo.

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