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#1 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:03 PM

The Red Wings kryptonite is a relatively low skill team that....

  1. Skates hard the entire game
  2. Hits a Red Wing player EVERY chance they get
  3. Gives them NO space in all three zones

 

Forecheck and backcheck the hell out of this team and they turn to jello.

 

Nashville perfected it. Calgary and Columbus have embraced it.

 

 

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#2 Number19

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:05 PM

It's been that way for quite a few years even when we were good. Key is Babcock would get our team up and ready for the big games/playoffs. Problem is the roster doesn't have the talent to coast any longer and we're getting exposed.



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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:09 PM

I thought this was going to be about teams wanting to score against the Wings.


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:18 PM

It's been that way for quite a few years even when we were good. Key is Babcock would get our team up and ready for the big games/playoffs. Problem is the roster doesn't have the talent to coast any longer and we're getting exposed.

 

It's an interesting dynamic to me that the more skilled teams in this league aren't nearly as high pressure.

 

But I guess if you have more skill, you feel you have less of a need to play high pressure in all the zones.



I thought this was going to be about teams wanting to score against the Wings.

 

Score....defeat....what's the difference?



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:24 AM

The Red Wings kryptonite is a relatively low skill team that....

  1. Skates hard the entire game
  2. Hits a Red Wing player EVERY chance they get
  3. Gives them NO space in all three zones

 

Forecheck and backcheck the hell out of this team and they turn to jello.

 

Nashville perfected it. Calgary and Columbus have embraced it.

 

 

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:53 AM

The Red Wings kryptonite is a relatively low skill team that....

  1. Skates hard the entire game
  2. Hits a Red Wing player EVERY chance they get
  3. Gives them NO space in all three zones

 

Forecheck and backcheck the hell out of this team and they turn to jello.

 

Nashville perfected it. Calgary and Columbus have embraced it.

 

 

:nhl_crach:

 

Doesn't this make any team win? I mean... playing a full 60 minutes, playing a sound game within all 3 zones, and grinding down, that just sounds like any team that wants to win. It isn't just the Red Wings kryptonite, it's the kryptonite for every team. 


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:26 AM

I thought the answer was simply

 

An opposing hockey team

 

 

At this point it doesn't seem to matter who it is or how they play



#8 unsaddleddonald

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:40 AM

Doesn't this make any team win? I mean... playing a full 60 minutes, playing a sound game within all 3 zones, and grinding down, that just sounds like any team that wants to win. It isn't just the Red Wings kryptonite, it's the kryptonite for every team. 

 

I'm more or less talking about the scrappy teams.

 

We don't look NEARLY as bad against teams like the Canucks and Blackhawks who rely more on skill than the teams I'm referring to. Those kind of teams will give us more space because they don't need to rely on athleticism and effort to win.

 

I mean, let's face it: look at the last 3 games and you will find one constant---->our guys are given no space and are harassed in all 3 zones.



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:50 AM

Physical, hard forechecking teams match up very very well against the Wings.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:52 AM

I'm more or less talking about the scrappy teams.

 

We don't look NEARLY as bad against teams like the Canucks and Blackhawks who rely more on skill than the teams I'm referring to. Those kind of teams will give us more space because they don't need to rely on athleticism and effort to win.

 

I mean, let's face it: look at the last 3 games and you will find one constant---->our guys are given no space and are harassed in all 3 zones.

 

I think that more of less has to do with the mindframe of the team. For the past 22 seasons they have gotten into the playoffs, for the majority of the cast, they have taken that for granted. They think they can just coast against these teams and magically make the playoffs. As much as it would hurt to miss the playoffs and not have the Wings in there, I think it would be a wide awakening for numerous players that they need to fight for it (these past games, and this season should've sent the same message but obviously didn't). It's one of my principles for mixing Veterans with youth injection. The youth and inexperienced players are the spark, ignition to the engine. They provide the motivation and the energy, the heart, the passion, the drive for the championship. The Veterans are the calmness, the experience, they can help teach the new ones what their mistakes are, and to provide them with more confidence. You have a perfect mix of that, and you will be deadly. I can agree that right now, we just don't have enough drive. I just want to punch a wall when I think of Franzen's work ethic. I've just never seen someone seem like they just don't simply care, especially getting paid millions a season... I don't care how front loaded, or how much you're making now; you signed the contract, fulfill it *******.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:57 AM

I think te problem last night was the wings jsut cant score when they seem to dominate play.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:58 AM

Doesn't help that when the Wings go East they will be seeing more teams that play that way on a regular basis...



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 11:01 AM

Doesn't help that when the Wings go East they will be seeing more teams that play that way on a regular basis...

 

Physicality wise, the East is rougher; Defensively I would say the East is weaker. The West seems to play more of a defensive game while the East plays more of an offensive game. 


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 07:34 PM

No.  This used to be our achilles heel.  Now, our achilles heel has increased to other types of teams as well.    

 

The Wings just aren't that good anymore.  


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:25 PM

The Wings are good. They just seem to be allergic to goal scoring.

 
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