King Crane 289 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) I'm just glad that Cleary is finally sitting out Edited November 14, 2013 by King Crane 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I thought the exact same thing about Ericsson before! I heard that he started as a forward but was moved back to D at some point in his career-I'm sure early on-but I have always thought about it...Smith would probably do really well up there, can't do worse. You're right with Big Rig; he was drafted as a forward and became our defensive project. Smith normally excels at the offensive side of things. I think its Babcock that has strained him confidence/development wise. When he first came up he played his game a lot more. Nowadays he's stuck trying to analyze where he should be defensively within the structure and its made him start thinking about things. As a defensemen you shouldn't be thinking but rather doing. You need to trust your instincts and make the right move. The more you delay the messier things get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 How long will be keep the line together is the question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jthiel86 43 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Tatar is scratched for tomorrow. Cleary is back in.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Bertuzzi is effective up there. That may defy logic to some people solve he's "old and slow" but it is what it is. Our top line is set. In his case it's because he keeps the puck moving fast with his great passing or he's protecting it like a mama bear, which all mostly nullifies his lack of speed. The guy has the incredible vision, instincts, and skills to line w 13 & 40 as opposed to Abby who just quite didn't have enough . Plus he adds a major bit of gruff to that line: guys are still intimidated by the old bear. Tatar is scratched for tomorrow. Cleary is back in.... No one has supported Babcock and Holland more than me, but its starting to piss me off. 1 13dangledangle reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Crane 289 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 Tatar is scratched for tomorrow. Cleary is back in.... So not only is Tatar not playing...but Cleary is skating again... 1 Ally reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukToZetterberg 128 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I look at Helm the same way I look at Abby. Extremely useful when he can play his role. Abby is awful as a top-six forward. Helm cannot be a second-line center. Put these guys in their proper role. I know we don't want to, but we have to split Pav and Hank up until Weiss comes back. That second line may create a few chances but they won't finish. If Alfie isn't putting it in the net on that line, no one will be able to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted November 14, 2013 I honestly feel we should make Smith a forward. Zetterberg Datsyuk Bertuzzi Smith Weiss Alfredsson Tatar Helm Franzen Miller Glendening Abdelkader Whoops, forgot about Andersson. And Nyquist. Gonna have to give this some thought now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 968 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 Whoops, forgot about Andersson. And Nyquist. Gonna have to give this some thought now. Lose Miller & Glendening and you're good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 if only we could get nyquist up and make the lines for babs then this team would be successful. Z-dats- Bert Nyquist- Weiss- alfy Tatar- helm- mule Abdelkader- Anderson- miller I dunno about you guys but I think that's a pretty good looking forward group. If someone struggles on 2nd line there's always the option of moving up Tatar and the mule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 The key to the second line is Weiss. We can swap wingers (and have) but it will never succeed until he starts producing more. It may be time to split Datsyuk and Zetterberg up. Franzen-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Zetterberg-Weiss-Alfredsson It might work. And Dabura, why slot Smith on the second line? I agree he might be more useful as a forward, but as a fourth liner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 The key to the second line is Weiss. We can swap wingers (and have) but it will never succeed until he starts producing more. It may be time to split Datsyuk and Zetterberg up. Franzen-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi Zetterberg-Weiss-Alfredsson It might work. And Dabura, why slot Smith on the second line? I agree he might be more useful as a forward, but as a fourth liner. No I can't go another season of watching pav play with both Bert and mule. Yes Weiss is key to the second line and he does need to start producing but I think he would with a hungry nyquist and alfy. If not we would have two other wingers in Tatar and mule to insert in with Weiss. Weiss was starting to look very good before the injury don't be surprised if he starts heating up when he gets back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
