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[Richdg 267]

10 hours ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

I dont think anyone disagrees with you. That doesnt mean Devellano wasnt getting plenty of his 2 cents in either. Same with Holland. Just cause a man has final say doesnt mean decisions are all and only him. Only a fool ignores the other great minds around him.

True, and very much part of our problem. We lack "great minds" atm.

[Buppy 1,720]

12 hours ago, Richdg said:

Because there are still those that think he wasn't the one building the team from 95 through 2002....... Scotty decided who can stay, who needs to go, and what players need to be brought in. Now this is where Kenny needs his due, he was very good at bringing in those players without giving away a bunch of future stars. That is something Holland should be praised for. All the players and picks we have traded away over the last 25 years and very few of them turned into great players for other teams, We kept the good and moved the bad.

Oh I see, you're saying Scotty retained the player personnel role even after Holland was made GM. I'm not sure if that's true, but I don't think it matters. Of course the coach, regardless of his official authority, is going to have input on the roster. And of course losing off-ice talent can hurt a team just like losing on-ice talent. I don't think any of that adds to the silly attempts to discredit Holland.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

14 hours ago, Richdg said:

True, and very much part of our problem. We lack "great minds" atm.

Im not sure if we do or not. This organization has definitely had its talent poached though. Yzerman, Nill, Babs. And i know yzerman brought some of our scouts and minds with him to tampa. Not sure if Nill did the same. So yes weve been bled, but i cant comment on those whove replaced that talent.