toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted December 11, 2017 15 hours ago, Only bleeds RED said: It's growing again. We have a ECHL team owned by same family that owns the Chiefs. They sell out a 6k seat arena plus few hundred standing room only. I don't think this is accurate. You are suggesting they draw 6,000+, which, including standing room is over 100% capacity. The actual stats show their attendance has been declining in each of the last 4 years. The arena capacity is 5,800 and they were drawing 5,300 three years ago, down to 5150 two years ago, 5,000 last year and 4,500 this season (77% capacity). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only bleeds RED 16 Report post Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, toby91_ca said: I don't think this is accurate. You are suggesting they draw 6,000+, which, including standing room is over 100% capacity. The actual stats show their attendance has been declining in each of the last 4 years. The arena capacity is 5,800 and they were drawing 5,300 three years ago, down to 5150 two years ago, 5,000 last year and 4,500 this season (77% capacity). I'm no longer a STH, but the 5 home games I been to this year including home opener were sold out. Draw does indeed go down if the Mavs hit a win drought, but they do sell out games when the wheels are rolling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted December 12, 2017 7 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Depends on your definition of success, but I'd consider Winnipeg and Minnesota to be successful in regards to relocation / expansion teams. Atlanta flamed out (pun) twice. I'm not sure if Kansas City would have much success, but I'd love to see those uniforms back / recreated. I think either Hartford or Quebec could come back and be successful as well. Which proves that the NHL can fail or succeed (or in some cases both) just about anywhere. Every successful NHL city started without a team. I'm sure there were traditionalists who scoffed at the first wave of expansion in '67. Nobody cares about hockey in LA or St Louis or Pittsburgh or Oakland! And yet here we are 50 years later and only one of those teams failed (California). And when given a 2nd chance, the Bay area has proven to be a successful NHL market with the Sharks. And the one that everyone thought was a "hockey market" (Minnesota) ended up relocating. You just never know. Kansas City metro area is over 2 million people, similar population to Denver, Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill metro area. You would need less than 1% of the population to show up for games to sell out. St Louis is proof that the NHL could succeed there. Fun fact: Atlanta isn't the only city to lose 2 NHL teams. Both Montreal and Quebec City have as well. Believe it, or not. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted December 12, 2017 There hasn't been any talk of the NHL going to Kansas City in at least five years. The ship has sailed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, GMRwings1983 said: There hasn't been any talk of the NHL going to Kansas City in at least five years. The ship has sailed. I wouldnt say that, these articles are all from 2017. Ship hasn't sailed. http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/20312842/nhl-kansas-city-trying-stay-conversation-future-expansion http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nhl/article167290422.html https://www.tsn.ca/kansas-city-on-nhl-expansion-radar-1.831403 https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/kansas-city-viable-nhl-expansion-location-150205807.html http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bill-daly-comments-potential-nhl-team-kansas-city/ From Bill Daley: "Kansas City has never been entirely ‘off our radar screen" http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/lamar-hunt-jr-talks-future-of-kc-as-possible-nhl-expansion-market Not saying hey are going to get one, but to say that ship has sailed is just incorrect. Edited December 12, 2017 by kliq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted December 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Only bleeds RED said: I'm no longer a STH, but the 5 home games I been to this year including home opener were sold out. Draw does indeed go down if the Mavs hit a win drought, but they do sell out games when the wheels are rolling. I guess the in arena announcers are providing the wrong info then. They've only sold out 2 games this year, 1 other at 92% capacity and then nothing even close (80% and below...couple in the 50's%) 1 Only bleeds RED reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only bleeds RED 16 Report post Posted December 12, 2017 Maybe sold out ticket wise but door count different? Not sure as they say sold out over the PA several times during the games..Maybe crowd hype, no idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
