1/17 GDT - Wings @ Panthers (7:00 PM EST)

[Troy McClure 347]

9 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Nah, it’s true. They play differently for all kinds of reasons. They’re very susceptible to superstition because they’re so particular about how they mentally prepare. No reason to think that they wouldn’t worry about a soft goalie just as much as they worry about how they tape their stick or lace their skates.

 

1 hour ago, stephen-gregory-yzerman said:

This reads like a comment made by someone that has never played the game. Players 100% play differently depending on there goalie and the confidence they have in that goalie.

Lol what a bunch of total malarkey. 99% of the game is happening so fast and in the moment, no one is considering who is in net when they make a decision. You go out there and play your game, and execute the coaches game plan. Only way I'm playing markedly more conservative is because coach has asked me to. Players focus on doing their jobs, who is in net is not their concern, and I implore either of you to present anything that supports this fanboy superstition of yours.

Edited January 19, 2024 by Troy McClure

[kipwinger 8,772]

54 minutes ago, Troy McClure said:

 

Lol what a bunch of total malarkey. 99% of the game is happening so fast and in the moment, no one is considering who is in net when they make a decision. You go out there and play your game, and execute the coaches game plan. Only way I'm playing markedly more conservative is because coach has asked me to. Players focus on doing their jobs, who is in net is not their concern, and I implore either of you to present anything that supports this fanboy superstition of yours.

Players talk about it all the time. I'm trying to remember the game but just the other night I watched an pre-game interview and a player commented that his team needed to "tighten up defensively" because they had a rookie goalie playing. I've also heard it the other way where a player will say something like "getting Fluery back (or whomever) really allow us to play our game", or things to that end.

[88Kaner 33]

8 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

Players talk about it all the time. I'm trying to remember the game but just the other night I watched an pre-game interview and a player commented that his team needed to "tighten up defensively" because they had a rookie goalie playing. I've also heard it the other way where a player will say something like "getting Fluery back (or whomever) really allow us to play our game", or things to that end.

No different than a football teams confidence in the QB that's why it's pretty much impossible to win meaningful games in the NFL without a legit one. You hear the greats talk about s*** like this all the time.

[kipwinger 8,772]

3 minutes ago, 88Kaner said:

No different than a football teams confidence in the QB that's why it's pretty much impossible to win meaningful games in the NFL without a legit one. You hear the greats talk about s*** like this all the time.

Maybe it's all b.s., what do I know? I've just heard enough players talk about it, and seen enough teams change their game to think there's something to it. Osgood taking over for Hasek in 2008 comes to mind. Our team looked day and night different once they had steady goaltending behind them.

[town123 236]

2 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

 

Lol what a bunch of total malarkey. 99% of the game is happening so fast and in the moment, no one is considering who is in net when they make a decision. You go out there and play your game, and execute the coaches game plan. Only way I'm playing markedly more conservative is because coach has asked me to. Players focus on doing their jobs, who is in net is not their concern, and I implore either of you to present anything that supports this fanboy superstition of yours.

Sure, the game comes at you pretty fast.   Experienced players have adapted to that speed and can still make decisions based on who is in net.   Apprehension vs aggression is a defenceman pinching vs backing off because of the score, the period and/or faith in your goalie.    Or the high forward risking, or not, getting caught too deep in the o-zone.   Or keeping Ghost on the PP.....lol

 

[Troy McClure 347]

4 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Players talk about it all the time. I'm trying to remember the game but just the other night I watched an pre-game interview and a player commented that his team needed to "tighten up defensively" because they had a rookie goalie playing. I've also heard it the other way where a player will say something like "getting Fluery back (or whomever) really allow us to play our game", or things to that end.

Players say a lot of meaningless junk in interviews. 

4 hours ago, 88Kaner said:

No different than a football teams confidence in the QB that's why it's pretty much impossible to win meaningful games in the NFL without a legit one. You hear the greats talk about s*** like this all the time.

Lol a hockey goalie is not even closs to similar to a football QB.

Goalie is the most static position in perhaps all of sports. They do very little to influence the rest of the team.

A QB is the exact polar opposite. 

[Troy McClure 347]

2 hours ago, town123 said:

Sure, the game comes at you pretty fast.   Experienced players have adapted to that speed and can still make decisions based on who is in net.   Apprehension vs aggression is a defenceman pinching vs backing off because of the score, the period and/or faith in your goalie.    Or the high forward risking, or not, getting caught too deep in the o-zone.   Or keeping Ghost on the PP.....lol

 

Point out a game where Lidstrom played radically differently because MacDonald or Conklin was in net. 

[town123 236]

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