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In Topic: Red Wings make contract offer to D Justin Schultz

26 June 2012 - 02:26 PM

Unless you're Ilitch, the cap hit is the only # that matters


I guess I kind of misunderstood the post. I thought he was saying if the Wings give Schultz $3.8M then they'll have to give Smith and Nyquist the same, but you're absolutely correct

In Topic: Red Wings make contract offer to D Justin Schultz

26 June 2012 - 02:06 PM

my only beef is that if we give him this big money cap hit, how will this affect signing smith, nyquist who get re-ups next season?

$2M of Schultz's $3.8M cap hit is pretty much impossible for him to actually earn. He'd have to win trophies like the Norris, Calder, and Conn Smythe to get that money. Essentially his contract would pay him a salary of either $875k or $925k (not sure which one he qualifies for) plus a possible $850k in bonuses that he has a decent chance of earning. So even though his cap hit will say $3.8M it's really like a $1.5M contract for Smith or Nyquist.

In Topic: Red Wings make contract offer to D Justin Schultz

25 June 2012 - 11:05 PM

Quotes from Holland...

“He’s close to being an NHL defenseman,” Wings general manager Ken Holland said. “He’s a young player. We’re prepared to give him the opportunity to be on our team."

“We’ve expressed we’re interested in signing him to a contract,” said Holland, who plans to meet with his agents (Don Meehan and Pat Morris) either Tuesday or Wednesday. “We think he’s a good prospect. We think there’s a tremendous opportunity in Detroit.

“With the loss of Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart, there’s a tremendous opportunity,” Holland added. “We’re trying to rebuild on the fly. We think he would be a good fit.”


In Topic: Top Swiss-leaguer Brunner to sign with Wings, Babcock has big plans

25 June 2012 - 10:08 PM

Until he logs minutes in the NHL, I'm not equating anything he's done in Europe to potential NHL points. That's pretty fair I think. The Wings rolled the dice on Leino and Brunnstrom, both of whom had some great numbers in their respective leagues, and neither panned out.

I don't blame you for being cautious, and I know the Leino/Brunnstrom comparisons will be made, but I really believe Brunner can be a decent NHLer. The first thing I look at is prolonged success:

Leino: put up decent numbers in Finland and then one year his numbers nearly doubled and then he came to NA. He didn't play the next year in Finland so who knows what his numbers would've looked like the next year - it very easily could've been a fluke season.

Brunnstrom: played well for two-thirds of a SEL season and tanked for the last third. It was probably just a hot streak, but he still only scored 10 goals in 66 games that season.

Brunner: 3 consecutive seasons where he's been very productive and consistent.

Next, I try to figure out how well a player's numbers will translate to the NHL.

Leino: poor skater and below average size was the big concern with him. The Wings stuck him in GR so they obviously didn't have a ton of confidence in him.

Brunnstrom: decent size, decent skater but the Wings wouldn't guarantee him any playing time in the NHL so he went to Dallas.

Brunner: good skater, below average size but is praised for overcoming it with his forechecking and grit. Also had two successful world championships playing against NHL players and it seems that the Wings feel he can play in the NHL.

With all that said, he could very easily be the next Brunnstrom. I don't know. I just think there are solid reasons to believe he can come in and be a decent 2nd/3rd line NHLer if he's given that role.

In Topic: Top Swiss-leaguer Brunner to sign with Wings, Babcock has big plans

25 June 2012 - 07:51 PM

This has "Ville Leino" written all over it...

Except Brunner can actually skate. Leino is a pretty bad skater and can't stay on his feet if anyone lays a finger on him. Brunner is praised for his speed and his willingness to forecheck and play gritty.

Also, Leino had a bit of a one hit wonder season the year before he came to NA, but Brunner has played at a high level for 3 straight years including 2 good world championship performances.

I really don't see any glaring weaknesses in Brunner's game. His booming right-handed shot fills a need along with his speed. If you believe in NHL equivalences he's a 40 point NHL player based on his numbers in Switzerland. Seems like he's a safer bet than Leino and might have more upside.