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In Topic: Free agents this off season

26 June 2015 - 08:54 AM


You can't really compare the two players. But yes, 12M per/3 years for Green is a pipe dream. But it won't be 6.5M at 6 or 7 either.


I say Green signs for 5.5 for 6 or 7, or 6M for 3 or 4.

I think it will be more like 6 mil for 5 the more I think about it. Would you guys/gals do it at that price?


FTR, i wasn't trying to compare a third line center and a defenseman, it was more a comment about the state of free agency.

In Topic: Free agents this off season

26 June 2015 - 08:35 AM

If Carl Soderbergs getting something like that, Mean Mlke Green is going to be getting at least 6.5 mil. 3 yr 12 mil is a pipe dream. It will be a 6 or 7 at 6.5 is my guess and at that point, for a player who was relegated to a third pair (albeit having his best statistical season in years) and has not played more than 72 games in 6 years. Pass

In Topic: Will Wings Revisit Signing Phaneuf?

24 June 2015 - 01:17 PM


Yeah, but where does this compare to ratings on espn when they still hosted hockey?  The ratings from NBCN are compared to prior years with the same network.  I guess they have grown since the OLN days, but I'm not sure the TV ratings are better than they heyday of hockey in the 90's on ESPN.  


And I'm guessing NBA ratings are much higher for TV viewership.  


I'd love to see this list and compare it to the one above.  


And I don't remember guys like Lemieux, Bure or Yzerman being constantly matched up against players solely out there to fight and hit.  You make it sound like matching lines and coaching was non-existent in those days.  No coach would be stupid enough to have Jagr or Lemieux constantly matched up against his goon line.

I mean there were players on those players teams that their only purpose was to protect them from getting touched. The goalies were brutal then too. Watch those highlights. A lot of those goals would be easily stopped today. Again, not knocking those guys, they were greats and paved the way for today, but to say today isn't faster and overall more skilled is wrong.

In Topic: Will Wings Revisit Signing Phaneuf?

24 June 2015 - 10:28 AM


Have you been watching hockey for 5 minutes?  


Gretzky, Lemieux, Hasek, Roy, Jagr, Sakic, Bourque, Yzerman, Lindros, Chelios, Bure, Forsberg, Fedorov, Brodeur, Belfour, Messier, Hull, LaFontaine, Selanne, Francis, MacInnis, Mogilny, Gilmour, Leetch, Oates, Neely, Shanahan, Roenick, etc.  



Name me today's best players and we'll have a nice laugh as to which generation is better.  The generational talent was way better in the 90's, because the great players of the 80's were still strong, and the 90's were loaded with great young players from Europe.  


In fact, I don't think there's ever been as much talent in the NHL as there were in the 90's.  


Read post above.  The hitting and fighting isn't the only reason the game was better.  There were more great players in the game back then than there's ever been.  You can't come up with a comparative list of talent in today's generation.  The pool isn't that deep.  

It's been like 10 minutes, but whose counting?

 Like a previous comment stated, the players top to bottom are much more skilled and way faster than the previous generations. Not saying the 90's didn't have all time greats, but the 30 or so you mentioned were skating around players out there solely to fight and hit. Today's game is losing that and for the better imo. Overall the goalies today are much better and much more athletic which is why scoring is down and numbers were inflated in previous generations.


I'm sure someone could go down the list of teams today and make a compelling list of future hall of famers as long, if not longer if they wanted. Hell, the hawks alone have 4 :confused:

In Topic: Will Wings Revisit Signing Phaneuf?

24 June 2015 - 08:56 AM

HAHAH the players were better? You guys crack me up. Hockey has never seen the speed and skill it has now. All that clutching and grabbing was dumb and honestly line brawls were a sideshow to the actual game. And the ratings are better because the advertising is reaching so many different mediums and the game is being watched everywhere and anywhere.