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#2514399 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Buppy on 23 April 2014 - 02:47 PM

 

I have mixed feelings about your post.  Sure, fans overreact when their team looks as bad as we have the last couple of games.  And obviously, the sky is not falling.  You're right, we've made the playoffs a whole bunch of times and in general we're lucky we never have to watch a bottom feeder. 
 

But you also make it seem like we should pat ourselves on the back for making the playoffs as if that's some victory in and of itself.  It would be...for the Lions.  But given that the Red Wings ALWAYS make it, there's some expectation that periodically they'll challenge for a Cup, or make it to the finals, or even make it to the conference finals...none of which we've done since 2009. 

 

If it's an overreaction to assume that everything about the team sucks and the Wings are terrible, its an equally bad under-reaction to assume that nothing is wrong with the team, and if not for a few less injuries we'd have been competing for Cups these last few years.  

 

I guess all I'm saying is that if you look at it objectively, there is some reason to worry that the team is trending in the wrong direction (e.g. barely making the playoffs, stinking up their first round series' against Nashville and now Boston, blowing 3-1 series leads, etc.)

We should pat ourselves on the back. Making the playoffs last season and even more so this season, is a victory. We should be proud of our playoff performance last year, even if we did "blow" a 3-1 lead. Even if we lose in 5 to the PT winners, a team that won a Cup a few years ago and went to the finals last year, it's nothing to be ashamed of.

 

Having some pride in what we've been able to accomplish during the beginning of our transition is not the same as assuming nothing is wrong with the team. Nothing lasts forever, and that includes being content with marginal achievements. Saying, "we did well this year, all things considered", is in no way, shape, or form a statement that we should never try or expect to improve.

 

You say "trending in the wrong direction", but by definition you have to go down before you can head back up. To suggest that we should already be getting back to the top is saying we never should have fallen in the first place, or at least that our floor should have been a top 7 overall finish and a 2nd round loss. The expectations most people have for this team are ridiculously unrealistic. We've barely even declined (at least relative to what "decline" means for the rest of the league), and by the look of our kids this year we may already be moving back up (at least in the short-term). It's actually pretty damn impressive, and it's a shame more people can't appreciate it.




#2508442 Nyquist since Datsyuk's Return & Unnatural NHL Development

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 April 2014 - 10:14 AM

Ya, relax, at least he doesn't take months off like Franzee...

 

I do think when Babs mixed up the lines he screwed with the chemistry a bit, but hopefully he goes back to what was working before!

 

Put Nyquist back on a line with Legwand, if you want to move Abby up, put him on that line, Franzee is useless anywhere, but we have to play him in case he decides to go on one of his 4 game scoring streaks before his 14 game drought.

 

Re-unite the kids-line and plug Datsyuk in with Alfie and Franzee

 

Nyquist - Legwand - Abdelkader

Franzee - Datsyuk - Alfie

Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco

Helm - Glendening - Miller

 

That's actually a really nice line up...

 

Jeez, just looking at that lineup, what the heck is gonna happen next season when Z and Weiss are back?




#2462345 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by Nev on 08 December 2013 - 04:54 AM



As someone who's a big proponent of fighting in hockey, I hate to see s*** like this because I know what it's eventually going to lead too. Stuff like this by Thornton, and John Scott attacking a skill player, is going to get fighting banned in hockey. This isn't the 70's or the 80's anymore, enforcers need to provide protection and keep teams honest. Not attack players who are considerably more talented then them, clean hit? Sure, please do. That's your role, dirt like this? You're going to cost yourself a job down the line. When even Don Cherry (pro fighting, pro Bruins) is visibly upset by it, you know it's not good.

 

You're right it will lead to the ban of fighting, but for more than the reasons you suggested.  You say enforcers need to provide protection and keep teams honest., we're forever hearing on this board how we need Probert/Kocur/McCarty 2.0 to stop teams cheap-shotting us.  Yet here we are with a Bruins star player getting kneed in the head.

 

A Bruin.  A big, bad, Boston Bruin.  A team (supposedly) so nasty they could play Rollerball.  And all their toughness and meanness did nothing to stop one of their star players getting kneed in the head.  So tell me again how enforcers police the game and stop cheap-shots.




#2416633 Datsyuk: I want to sign extension with Wings this summer

Posted by Playmaker on 31 May 2013 - 05:35 PM

Would people quit acting like they know Pavel Datsyuk personally and "know" what he would do or wouldn't do?  He may want  a ton of money.  None of us here knows that.  Ken Holland has been around the block a few times with star players.  I think he knows what he's doing.




#2316294 The Next Move

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 July 2012 - 10:48 AM

Merged.

There's a thread for The Next Move, there's a thread for Chill People, We Have Options, there's a thread for what Holland shouldn't do next. Everybody please take a look at those existing threads before creating a new one to see if it fits in any of those.

We've been letting a lot of them go but are starting to get too many threads that are all basically speculating on what to do now after losing out on Parise and Suter.


#2141982 Lidstrom's Chances at Another Norris

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 04 April 2011 - 09:18 PM

What is he saying?


Why did this post get a +1?

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