Zeta Power 40 1 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=196137&hubname=nhl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted February 14, 2007 http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=196137&hubname=nhl That's a s***load of money. Hopefully that means we can pick up Laraque as our scrapper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 That's not too bad. There are others I'd take before Doan anyway. That is as long as we get them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 I don't know, not too hefty of a contract. I'd say he's worth it, or at least can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 So, Bill Guerin, anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airborn 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Good deal for both sides. Phoenix retains the face of the franchise (and one of the only true power forwards) for a reasonable sum. Doan gets stability and the chance to become one of the rare players who plays his entire career in one city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) That's a s***load of money. Hopefully that means we can pick up Laraque as our scrapper. The interesting part if Laraque signed with the Wings is that they'd only have to pick up $278,048.88 (if the trade was made on the day of the deadline). That's nothing for bringing in a guy that will protect your stars. Addition: $351,219.60 if the deal was made before the Wings game tonight. Edited February 14, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Systemfel 33 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) The interesting part if Laraque signed with the Wings is that they'd only have to pick up $278,048.88 (if the trade was made on the day of the deadline).Yeah... But the Wings would also be on the hook for a $1.2M cap hit next season. Edited February 14, 2007 by Systemfel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 So, Bill Guerin, anyone? Seriously, why hasnt Bill Guerin's name come up as more than a passing thought in terms of the Wings interest. A fast gritty big goal-scoring winger whose cap hit would be around 500k?? What exactly about Bill Guerin do we NOT need? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) Yeah... But the Wings would also be on the hook for a $1.2M cap hit next season. That's not appreciably more than league minimum. Maltby will (should) be gone, his salary can be used to cover Laraque's with room to spare. Seriously, why hasnt Bill Guerin's name come up as more than a passing thought in terms of the Wings interest. A fast gritty big goal-scoring winger whose cap hit would be around 500k?? What exactly about Bill Guerin do we NOT need? I guess the only thing that might scare the Wings off (other than winning the Forsberg sweepstakes) is Davidson's asking price. Blues got some pretty sick value out of trading Doug Weight last season. Edited February 14, 2007 by Heroes of Hockeytown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hatcher#2 13 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Yeah... But the Wings would also be on the hook for a $1.2M cap hit next season. I would gladly pay Laraque $1.2M, he is by far the toughest guy in the league and he can put up points, 21 points and a +6 rating on a terrible team is pretty damn good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 That's not appreciably more than league minimum. Maltby will (should) be gone, his salary can be used to cover Laraques' with room to spare. I guess the only thing that might scare the Wings off (other than winning the Forsberg sweepstakes) is Davidson's asking price. Blues got an some pretty sick value out of trading Doug Weight last season. Exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Seriously, why hasnt Bill Guerin's name come up as more than a passing thought in terms of the Wings interest. A fast gritty big goal-scoring winger whose cap hit would be around 500k?? What exactly about Bill Guerin do we NOT need? I'm not opposed to Guerin, I'd just rather have Keith. He's meaner and hits alot more and harder, and will drop gloves if need be. At least now this Doan crap can be put to rest.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Systemfel 33 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) Doesn't Guerin fight more than Tkachuk nowadays? Edit: Tkachuk Fight Card Guerin Fight Card Edited February 14, 2007 by Systemfel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bringback91 2 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Looks like they both been in a couple this year. For me it's not so much the frequency as much as the willingness. As they both are. Like I said, I wouldn't really mind either, I just think Tkachuk is a bit tougher, meaner, and a better hitter. To me that's more important than goal scoring ablility, which Guerin has more of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,048 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Hopefully that means we can pick up Laraque as our scrapper. Pass. The interesting part if Laraque signed with the Wings is that they'd only have to pick up $278,048.88 (if the trade was made on the day of the deadline). That's nothing for bringing in a guy that will protect your stars. How's that old line go? "When a crusher becomes a rusher, he will soon become an usher." While that may not apply entirely to Laraque, wasn't there a big issue a couple years back that Laraque didn't want to be an "enforcer"? He's got six fighting majors and just 52 PIMs all year. I'm not saying that I don't believe he'd help "protect" the likes of Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Lidstrom, I just think it answers ONE aspect of what the Wings need rather than two or three. For example, while not the fighting type (we don't need strictly a fighter, but someone that *will* drop the gloves when need be) a guy like Guerin, Tkachuk and Bertuzzi (depending where his head is at) will do that AND re-inforce the 2nd line AND provide scoring punch on the power-play. Seriously, why hasnt Bill Guerin's name come up as more than a passing thought in terms of the Wings interest. A fast gritty big goal-scoring winger whose cap hit would be around 500k?? What exactly about Bill Guerin do we NOT need? Lately it's been reported that JD would prefer to re-sign Guerin and deal Tkachuk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) Pass. How's that old line go? "When a crusher becomes a rusher, he will soon become an usher." While that may not apply entirely to Laraque, wasn't there a big issue a couple years back that Laraque didn't want to be an "enforcer"? He's got six fighting majors and just 52 PIMs all year. I'm not saying that I don't believe he'd help "protect" the likes of Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Lidstrom, I just think it answers ONE aspect of what the Wings need rather than two or three. For example, while not the fighting type (we don't need strictly a fighter, but someone that *will* drop the gloves when need be) a guy like Guerin, Tkachuk and Bertuzzi (depending where his head is at) will do that AND re-inforce the 2nd line AND provide scoring punch on the power-play. Lately it's been reported that JD would prefer to re-sign Guerin and deal Tkachuk. True, but if the cap hit is beyond minor (which it is in Laraque's case) it might not be the worst idea. Now that being said, I agree that the Wings would be better off with a guy like Bertuzzi/Guerin/Tkachuk coming in, but Laraque wouldn't be a bad insurance policy for guys like Z and Dats if any of the aforementioned don't end up in the Winged Wheel, and the Wings get skunked by inactivity come trade deadline time. The only thing that turns me off about Laraque is his $1.2 million salary we'd have to pick up next season. Sidenote: True, the Wings needs go deeper than Laraque, and obviously those are things Holland better address before even thinking about bringing in a guy like him. Let's just hope it happens this year. Edited February 14, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,048 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 I would be shocked if Holland traded for Laraque for the reason you mentioned (extra year commitment) and because of the ones I mentioned. Even if the cap hit is relatively small, it is still one of 18 available skater positions and one that would be better utilized with someone of a higher skill set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 I would be shocked if Holland traded for Laraque for the reason you mentioned (extra year commitment) and because of the ones I mentioned. Even if the cap hit is relatively small, it is still one of 18 available skater positions and one that would be better utilized with someone of a higher skill set. Agreed, but again, I'm referring to a skunk situation on the day of the deadline. In other words, a last second, we've got nothing else kind of deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,048 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Like Cory Cross? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Like Cory Cross? I didn't want to be the one to bring up the name. However, Cross brought nothing but a depth 7th d-man to the lineup, where as Laraque would atleast force players to think twice about running our skill guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Good for the Yotes. I really didn't see the Wings signing him anyway. Eh I'm not a fan of Laraque. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Good for the Yotes. I really didn't see the Wings signing him anyway. Eh I'm not a fan of Laraque. I'm not much of a fan of his either, but if he gives Dats and Z some room to work in the playoffs, and it costs us next to nothing, its not the worst thing that could happen. That being said, a lot better things could happen than Laraque. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldbuck 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2007 Not that I was ever totally convinced he was coming here but I am Very suprised he has made this deal. I know he has a good relationship with Wayne, and that he has been with the franchise his whole career, and that he has made a home there for his wife and kids, Yet, he is such a competator and I really thought he would want to move to a team with better playoff hopes. He hasn't seen the post season in what 5 years? And on paper this last year was Phoenix's best team ever. And what did they do with it? Well, I suppose good on him for stickin' with the team, they do need him there, but he would be great to see in post-season play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted February 14, 2007 The interesting part if Laraque signed with the Wings is that they'd only have to pick up $278,048.88 (if the trade was made on the day of the deadline). That's nothing for bringing in a guy that will protect your stars. Addition: $351,219.60 if the deal was made before the Wings game tonight. Heh much rather pay him that than Williams or Maltby I would gladly pay Laraque $1.2M, he is by far the toughest guy in the league and he can put up points, 21 points and a +6 rating on a terrible team is pretty damn good. Agreed. Wish we could get him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites