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That's a cheap and good deal? Massive overpayment and now you just created a scenario where an already weak top-six just lost two more players.

Is this a joke?

Positive things like these are only said about the likes of Emmerton and Kindl when those players are being included in a trade proposal. When people talk about how those players do as members of the Red Wings, they generally speak about how much Emmerton sucks and Kindl is unremarkable. And really, Emmerton does suck--he is almost completely useless in every way--and Kindl really is unremarkable. Other teams know this.

That's a good deal for the Wings. If they're getting Yandle.

Kronwall for breaking the 70 point barrier and Howard for winning the Vezina.

Completely agree but comments like this get funnier and funnier as Holland's offseasons go by. ( the bolded part I mean ) esteef

Yeah - hell have a great season in europe after he gets waived and nobody claims him. Hardworking little player and a good guy ... unfortunatley he has bottom 6 skill and is small, light, doesnt have Helm/Draper speed, and isnt abraisive. His only purpose on this team might be as the 14th forward to step in when a center goes down with an injury. Guys a slower and less talented Jeff Tambellini.

Corys not even gonna play lol

...okay? I'm failing to see your point, if there is one.

All I'm saying is that if YOU'RE going to be sarcastic with YOUR posts, at least do it the right way! We can't have people acting like know-it-alls around here when they can't even use the language properly. Kronwall hasn't played against the best for 22 minutes a night yet. He will get a good test this year, and we'll see if he can keep up. I think it will be an eye opener for a lot of people as to how much Lidstrom meant to our defensive corps.

When are you and Slash going to re-unite and bring back the original GNR?

Bouwmeester is on the trading block because he is expendable now that they have Wideman. They'd certainly love to dump his salary, but like it has been said before, Calgary does not NEED to trade JBow. They could just as easily dump Babchuk if they're looking for a bit of cap or salary relief. Without Bouwmeester, Calgary still has seven defensemen. Kindl isn't going to see an increased role with the Flames. He'll be a third pairing guy or healthy scratch. ...and if he can work out for Calgary, why can't he work out here. I'm of the camp that think he's made improvement and will continue to do so if he sees the same amount of responsibility here in Detroit. ...and we DON'T have Janik. ...or Meech. ...or any other defenseman on the Griffins that's seen much NHL time. So, why at this point would we dig ourselves, albiet possibly smaller, another hole to fill on defense? We need a stay home defenseman more than we need another puck moving guy. Sign a FA that we won't have to give up a single roster or prospect for. If we want JBo so badly, we should go after him with forwards and a pick. I don't necessarily think that they are, but IF the Flames are so desperate to dump him, it should not take Fil or Franzen.

In happier Fischer times... esteef

Corsi stats are pretty useless. Just like Cory Emmerton.

there we go Cory, #1 at something!

I don't put much stock in Corsi stats. I can understand the desire for statistical analysis, but there's just so many variables changing second to second. Hockey's not baseball (thank god).