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#1 Hockey Master

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Posted 03 July 2005 - 07:16 PM

Where do you think some players will end up, and how do you think they'll do?

Kronwall's up, Hudler's got a good shot, but how are some of the others going to do?

I think we could see more from Himelfarb and Manlow now, and if Bootland comes back, he'll get better offensively.

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 04:36 PM

Himelfarb needs another season in the AHL, but his problem is size. Hudler had a crappy year in Grand Rapids and also has a problem with size, being he's only 5'9" or so. The best of the bunch is Bootland, he had more goals than the others and brings an element this team needs, toughness and grit, but he needs to use hbis head a bit more. Kronwall is a lock to make Detroit

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Posted 10 July 2005 - 09:16 PM

Yeah, Kronwall's been pretty much a sure thing since the end of last season. I seem to recall assertions by managment that he was ready to be in the regular line-up when the next season began. Sure, that ended up being longer than we would have liked but I really doubt things have changed, particularly in light of his great season this year.


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Posted 12 July 2005 - 12:24 AM

I believe GR will be as follows...

Centers:

Hudler
McGrath
Eric Manlow
Eric Himelfarb

Left Wingers:

Matt Ellis
Ryan Barnes
Ernie Hartlieb
Tomek Valtonen

Right Wingers:

Darryl Bootland
Todd Jackson (yes back from the ECHL)
Ryan Oulahen (possible I dunno if they feel hes ready for the AHL quite yet)
Andreas Jamtin

For Defensemen:
Bryan Helmer
Danny Groulx
Derek Meech
Kyle Quincey

and finally man'in those pipes (course this position especially depends on what happens with the new CBA)

DREW MACINTYRE
Stefan Liv

Edited by Seth, 15 July 2005 - 06:09 AM.

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#5 WingMan56

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (Barnes52 @ July 6, 2005 - 04:36PM)
Himelfarb needs another season in the AHL, but his problem is size. Hudler had a crappy year in Grand Rapids and also has a problem with size, being he's only 5'9" or so. The best of the bunch is Bootland, he had more goals than the others and brings an element this team needs, toughness and grit, but he needs to use hbis head a bit more. Kronwall is a lock to make Detroit

Himelfarb had 19 goals, Bootland had 14.

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE (Seth @ July 12, 2005 - 01:24AM)
I believe GR will be as follows...

Centers:

Hudler
McGrath
Eric Manlow
Eric Himelfarb

Left Wingers:

Matt Ellis
Ryan Barnes
Ernie Hartlieb
Tomek Valtonen

Right Wingers:

Darryl Bootland
Todd Jackson (yes back from the ECHL)
Ryan Oulahen (possible I dunno if they feel hes ready for the AHL quite yet)
Andreas Jamtin

For Defensemen:
Bryan Helmer
Danny Groulx
Derek Meech
Kyle Quincey

and finally man'in those pipes (course this position especially depends on what happens with the new CBA)

DREW MACINTYRE
Stefan Liv

Jamtin will play in Finland next season.
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Posted 16 July 2005 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE (Seth @ July 12, 2005 - 12:24AM)
I believe GR will be as follows...

Centers:

Hudler
McGrath
Eric Manlow
Eric Himelfarb

Left Wingers:

Matt Ellis
Ryan Barnes
Ernie Hartlieb
Tomek Valtonen

Right Wingers:

Darryl Bootland
Todd Jackson (yes back from the ECHL)
Ryan Oulahen (possible I dunno if they feel hes ready for the AHL quite yet)
Andreas Jamtin

For Defensemen:
Bryan Helmer
Danny Groulx
Derek Meech
Kyle Quincey

Danny Groulx is as good as gone..he's been awful the last 2 seasons, and Greg Ireland finally had the guts to ship him off to another team. McGrath was just drafted, so he'll probably play another season in the OHL before being signed. Oulahen has actually been said to be one of the most pro-ready prospects we have. He plays an all around game and can chip in offense as well as defense. He'll more than likely be in Grand Rapids. Hartlieb was just an ECHL call up, so I doubt he'll be around as a full time player next season. I do hope they bring over Jamtin and Valtonen though. Jamie Rivers will probably be in Grand Rapids too. Williams, Mowers, Franzen, Hudler could also end up in Grand Rapids.

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Posted 17 July 2005 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ July 16, 2005 - 05:18PM)
QUOTE (Seth @ July 12, 2005 - 01:24AM)
I believe GR will be as follows...

Centers:

Hudler
McGrath
Eric Manlow
Eric Himelfarb

Left Wingers:

Matt Ellis
Ryan Barnes
Ernie Hartlieb
Tomek Valtonen

Right Wingers:

Darryl Bootland
Todd Jackson (yes back from the ECHL)
Ryan Oulahen (possible I dunno if they feel hes ready for the AHL quite yet)
Andreas Jamtin

For Defensemen:
Bryan Helmer
Danny Groulx
Derek Meech
Kyle Quincey

and finally man'in those pipes (course this position especially depends on what happens with the new CBA)

DREW MACINTYRE
Stefan Liv

Jamtin will play in Finland next season.

you sure? i mean im not tryin to be an ass er anything its just that i thought management thought it was time to bring him over?
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Posted 17 July 2005 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE (WingMan56 @ July 16, 2005 - 04:13PM)
Himelfarb had 19 goals, Bootland had 14.

So? Bootland is more NHL ready, his game fits better than Himelfarb's right now. Bootland's game is offers more than Himelfarb, Himelfarb is a scorer and I don't think he's ready yet for the NHL.

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 11:53 AM

Bootland's goals were mostly on the Power play, he stood near the net and basically tried to do what Holmstrom does for the Wings.

I would like to see Bootland remain with the Griffins just to be in the agitator role.
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 03:06 PM

QUOTE (Barnes52 @ July 17, 2005 - 06:56PM)
So? Bootland is more NHL ready, his game fits better than Himelfarb's right now. Bootland's game is offers more than Himelfarb, Himelfarb is a scorer and I don't think he's ready yet for the NHL.

I wasn't saying anything about NHL readiness. You said bootland scored more goals than Himelfarb, etc. I was just saying he didn't.

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE (Seth @ July 17, 2005 - 07:21PM)
QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ July 16, 2005 - 05:18PM)
QUOTE (Seth @ July 12, 2005 - 01:24AM)
I believe GR will be as follows...

Centers:

Hudler
McGrath
Eric Manlow
Eric Himelfarb

Left Wingers:

Matt Ellis
Ryan Barnes
Ernie Hartlieb
Tomek Valtonen

Right Wingers:

Darryl Bootland
Todd Jackson (yes back from the ECHL)
Ryan Oulahen (possible I dunno if they feel hes ready for the AHL quite yet)
Andreas Jamtin

For Defensemen:
Bryan Helmer
Danny Groulx
Derek Meech
Kyle Quincey

and finally man'in those pipes (course this position especially depends on what happens with the new CBA)

DREW MACINTYRE
Stefan Liv

Jamtin will play in Finland next season.

you sure? i mean im not tryin to be an ass er anything its just that i thought management thought it was time to bring him over?

Yeah I'm sure. He signed a contract after the playoffs. I haven't heard anything about management wanting to bring him over. He's not ready for the NHL or the AHL yet. Maybe next year. Read this:

http://www.allsports...shNotebook.html
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Posted 18 July 2005 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE (sjradio @ July 18, 2005 - 12:53PM)
Bootland's goals were mostly on the Power play, he stood near the net and basically tried to do what Holmstrom does for the Wings.

I would like to see Bootland remain with the Griffins just to be in the agitator role.

And this team can't use more of that?

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Posted 20 July 2005 - 03:32 PM

Icer-

You think Liv will join the Griffins? It said in the GR Press a few days back they will sign Jimmy Howard later this summer. Maybe will have Liv and Howard together? Will MacInyre be our starter?

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 06:32 PM

God help us if MacIntyre is the starter.

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Posted 24 July 2005 - 05:33 PM

QUOTE (mannysBETTER3434 @ July 20, 2005 - 05:32PM)
Icer-

You think Liv will join the Griffins? It said in the GR Press a few days back they will sign Jimmy Howard later this summer. Maybe will have Liv and Howard together? Will MacInyre be our starter?

That won't happen. The Wings management and Howard have already said he's going to finish up his last year in Maine.
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Posted 24 July 2005 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE (RyanBarnes! @ July 18, 2005 - 06:24PM)
Yeah I'm sure. He signed a contract after the playoffs. I haven't heard anything about management wanting to bring him over. He's not ready for the NHL or the AHL yet. Maybe next year. Read this:

http://www.allsports...shNotebook.html

thanks for the link...helps to stay updated. Looks like hes pretty headstrong bout playin on the Finnish ice.
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Posted 24 July 2005 - 05:36 PM

Oulahen will be in GR this year you can count on that.
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#19 WingMan56

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 02:44 PM

Quincey and Oulahen both, most likely. Hopefully one or two of the Euro's too..like Filpulla, Blatak, Valtonen, Jamtin, Liv. MacIntyre will get lit up if he's our starter. He wasn't even a sufficient back up last season, which is why Joey Mac played like 70 games. Hopefully they can either lure Howard or Liv, or sign a veteran to play in front of MacIntyre.

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Posted 03 August 2005 - 10:29 PM

bootland should get called up to replace mccarty, he fits that role perfectly





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