WingMan56 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2005 (edited) Once again, he knotches another assist in his game against HC MVD last night (Sept 22). Hopefully halfway through the RSL season he will still be hanging around the point-per-game mark. Yeah, they apparently changed one of his goals to an assist last week. He was listed with 3 goals 3 assists, and I checked the scoresheets on russianprospects.com and hockeydb.com last night, and they both said 2 goals 4 assists. Still a point per game either way, but lets hope he starts putting the puck in the net some more! Edited September 23, 2005 by WingMan56 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel1 32 Report post Posted September 23, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard Hey I like those lines you made up... but could we replace Delmore? Maybe with a guy with a little bit of mean streak in the corners and in front of the net? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 24, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard Hey I like those lines you made up... but could we replace Delmore? Maybe with a guy with a little bit of mean streak in the corners and in front of the net? I picked Delmore because I doubt Rivers will be kept around past this season, Delmore has plenty of skill, and picking from the young guys gets too messy, and Delmore is better than any of our NHL-ready/near-ready prospects at this point. I wouldn't be shocked if he were instead replaced by a free agent, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satrebil 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. That's a rather optimistic viewpoint. Only Zetterberg so far has proven his NHL level of play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heals_3000 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2005 Grigorenko adds another assist in a 3-3 tie... 8 Points/8 Games Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToddDaGod 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 Grigorenko adds another assist in a 3-3 tie... 8 Points/8 Games Awsome. I read today that he has until June or July 1st(one of em, I forget)2006 to sign or we lose his rights. Hopefully next year we can get him signed and playing over here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heals_3000 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 Awsome. I read today that he has until June or July 1st(one of em, I forget)2006 to sign or we lose his rights. Hopefully next year we can get him signed and playing over here. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 2g 7a in 9 games according to poster at HFBoards. Sniper needs to start sniping. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingMan56 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 2g 7a in 9 games according to poster at HFBoards. Sniper needs to start sniping. peace Exactly..i said the same thing on HFboards...9 points in 9 games is great and everything..but the kid is known for scoring goals! Hope he ends up with at least 15 this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Awsome. I read today that he has until June or July 1st(one of em, I forget)2006 to sign or we lose his rights. Hopefully next year we can get him signed and playing over here. Link? Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapshots 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005  Awsome. I read today that he has until June or July 1st(one of em, I forget)2006 to sign or we lose his rights. Hopefully next year we can get him signed and playing over here. Link? Link New CBA has ended the "forever and ever" rights to Euros. Holland might have an interesting negotiation with Grigorenko this spring/summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Awsome. I read today that he has until June or July 1st(one of em, I forget)2006 to sign or we lose his rights. Hopefully next year we can get him signed and playing over here. Link? Link New CBA has ended the "forever and ever" rights to Euros. Holland might have an interesting negotiation with Grigorenko this spring/summer. Grigorenko will be an entry level player...his potential salary is capped. The most he could possibly make is on the order of 5.5-6m for three years after bonuses are included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERSTUD 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 (edited) Григоренко (grigorenko) on a roll, got the first goal vs Khimik ÃŒ. 3g-7a-10pts 10 games Edited September 30, 2005 by SUPERSTUD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heals_3000 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 bring him over next year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapshots 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 bring him over next year! Well, it's next year or never. The Red Wings lose their exclusive rights to Grigorenko if he's not signed by June 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mangothrower 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard That's not too unrealistic...with all the young players at capped levels, I wouldn't expect the payroll to exceed $45 million with those players...less if we succeed this year and players are willing to take a pay cut to return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard That's not too unrealistic...with all the young players at capped levels, I wouldn't expect the payroll to exceed $45 million with those players...less if we succeed this year and players are willing to take a pay cut to return. With the salaries I have projected for those vets who are unsigned for 06-07 I expect this roster to come out around 36-37m. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satrebil 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard I'm not so sure I'd go with Zetterberg centering the third line. He's second line material at this point in his career already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard I'm not so sure I'd go with Zetterberg centering the third line. He's second line material at this point in his career already. The lines 1-3 can go in any order. They're all first-line level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satrebil 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard I'm not so sure I'd go with Zetterberg centering the third line. He's second line material at this point in his career already. The lines 1-3 can go in any order. They're all first-line level. They're all first-line level? I disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard I'm not so sure I'd go with Zetterberg centering the third line. He's second line material at this point in his career already. The lines 1-3 can go in any order. They're all first-line level. They're all first-line level? I disagree. The Zetterberg line is probably the least 'first line' of the three, and that still stacks up well against a lot of 'first' lines around the league. Those three would be contributing around 60 goals and 150 points, which is not far off of the Doan line from Phoenix or even Iginla's line from 03-04 Calgary. Would you consider those lines "first" lines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satrebil 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard I'm not so sure I'd go with Zetterberg centering the third line. He's second line material at this point in his career already. The lines 1-3 can go in any order. They're all first-line level. They're all first-line level? I disagree. The Zetterberg line is probably the least 'first line' of the three, and that still stacks up well against a lot of 'first' lines around the league. Those three would be contributing around 60 goals and 150 points, which is not far off of the Doan line from Phoenix or even Iginla's line from 03-04 Calgary. Would you consider those lines "first" lines? Filppula and Grigorenko have played in 0 NHL games; as such, one has trouble in projecting their numbers with any sort of certainty. Of those nine players, perhaps three, maybe five of them are top-two line material. Two of them (Filppula and Grigorenko), we simply cannot tell yet. So, I'd say those lines are not all first-line material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 30, 2005 I'm thinking more of the Euro-Triplets. Filppula, Zetterberg and Grigorenko should make a great scoring line for the Wings in a couple of years. Both Filppula and Zetterberg can play C and LW, so we can alternate those two guys between each position, and Grigorenko should solve our RW problem. Lots of speed, vision, stickhandling skills, shooting and playmaking. If we provide them with some big, physical forwards behind them on the other lines, then they could really take off. As far as lineups go, how about this for 06-07.... Hudler/Lang/Shanahan Williams/Datsyuk/Grigorenko Filppula/Zetterberg/Holmstrom Maltby/Draper/Franzen Bootland Lidstrom/Fischer Schneider/Kronwall Delmore/Lilja Meech Osgood Howard I'm not so sure I'd go with Zetterberg centering the third line. He's second line material at this point in his career already. The lines 1-3 can go in any order. They're all first-line level. They're all first-line level? I disagree. The Zetterberg line is probably the least 'first line' of the three, and that still stacks up well against a lot of 'first' lines around the league. Those three would be contributing around 60 goals and 150 points, which is not far off of the Doan line from Phoenix or even Iginla's line from 03-04 Calgary. Would you consider those lines "first" lines? Filppula and Grigorenko have played in 0 NHL games; as such, one has trouble in projecting their numbers with any sort of certainty. Of those nine players, perhaps three, maybe five of them are top-two line material. Two of them (Filppula and Grigorenko), we simply cannot tell yet. So, I'd say those lines are not all first-line material. let's see..three would be lang/datsyuk/zetterberg.....shanahan is still plenty top-two material, williams fits there, holmstrom can play top two, hudler definitely has the skill....not seein where you cut it off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) My Russian is completely nonexistant but I'm fairly certain Igor netted the OT gamewinner against Ak Bars today? Oct. 7th. http://www.severstalclub.ru/modules.php?op...order=0&thold=0 Овертайм: 60.43 Григоренко (Турковский, Трубачев) - 3:2 EDIT - posted a bit too hasty. He got an assist on the 1st goal of the game too. 1-й период: 8.40 Пискунов (Трубачев, Григоренко) - 1:0 So 1+1 for 4g 8a in 12 games. Not too shabby. peace Edited October 7, 2005 by norrisnick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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