norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Translator ? I tried but my translator of choice couldn't handle it. Being linked to Severstal's site once and trial and error has gotten me to the point to recognize the bolded word as Grigorenko's name. Luckily they format their gamesheets the same way we do. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERSTUD 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 (edited) My Russian is completely nonexistant but I'm fairly certain Igor netted the OT gamewinner against Ak Bars today? Oct. 7th. http://www.severstalclub.ru/modules.php?op...order=0&thold=0 Овертайм: 60.43 Григоренко (Турковский, Трубачев) - 3:2 EDIT - posted a bit too hasty. He got an assist on the 1st goal of the game too. 1-й период: 8.40 Пискунов (Трубачев, Григоренко) - 1:0 So 1+1 for 4g 8a in 12 games. Not too shabby. peace yep, assist and gwg. 1st star english http://www.rushockey.com/events.php?i=sl&s...=sl_news&id=362 have to mention he's doing this without much of a supporting cast, he's the only one on the team in the top 41 points leaders... http://www.rushockey.com/playerstats.php Edited October 8, 2005 by SUPERSTUD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snapshots 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Григоренко (grigorenko) on a roll, got the first goal vs Khimik ÃŒ. 3g-7a-10pts 10 games i know that rookie salaries are capped. However, with the Wings likely to be somewhere close to the cap, there is a big difference between $450,000 and $850,000 (rookie max). That kind of thing could be a deal breaker. Especially if Grigorenko suddenly captures the attention of Omsk or Dynamo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 i know that rookie salaries are capped. However, with the Wings likely to be somewhere close to the cap, there is a big difference between $450,000 and $850,000 (rookie max). That kind of thing could be a deal breaker. Especially if Grigorenko suddenly captures the attention of Omsk or Dynamo. There are incentives that could be added on. Plus we we shouldn't be that close to the cap. No closer than we are now and odds are high we are removing one of Osgood/Legace, Chelios, and possibly Shanahan and Yzerman as well. All these guys are likely going to be replaced with cheap guys already in our system. Ovechkin came over knowing he won't make as much, for the first three years anyway. Here's hoping Igor has the same competitive spirit to play in the biggest league out there. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Grigorenko has 12 points in 12 games, Kovalchuk has 13 in 11 games. Very impressive by Grigs, he definately has reached the level he was prior to the accident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimeBinder 28 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Can't waint until that Russian bull gets here - could make him the Lion's new fullback. Wait. No, no no no no - what was I thinking? Keep him on the winning franchise. Damn, gotta stop smoking that stuff!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Swift 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Grigorenko has 12 points in 12 games, Kovalchuk has 13 in 11 games. I believe Grigorenko's point totals are also similar to Evgeni Malkin's. That's something to be proud of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Grigorenko has 12 points in 12 games, Kovalchuk has 13 in 11 games. I believe Grigorenko's point totals are also similar to Evgeni Malkin's. That's something to be proud of. Kovalchuk is the best forward in the world...Malkin is a top prospect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Swift 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2005 Grigorenko has 12 points in 12 games, Kovalchuk has 13 in 11 games. I believe Grigorenko's point totals are also similar to Evgeni Malkin's. That's something to be proud of. Kovalchuk is the best forward in the world...Malkin is a top prospect. I believe referring to Kovalchuk as the best forward in the world would be a little generous, but either way, I'm truly excited to see that Grigorenko is keeping pace with the likes of Ilya Kovalchuk and Evgeni Malkin. It wouldn't suprise me one bit to see Igor step right into the Wings' lineup next season if he keeps this up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 9, 2005 Grigorenko has 12 points in 12 games, Kovalchuk has 13 in 11 games. I believe Grigorenko's point totals are also similar to Evgeni Malkin's. That's something to be proud of. Kovalchuk is the best forward in the world...Malkin is a top prospect. I believe referring to Kovalchuk as the best forward in the world would be a little generous, but either way, I'm truly excited to see that Grigorenko is keeping pace with the likes of Ilya Kovalchuk and Evgeni Malkin. It wouldn't suprise me one bit to see Igor step right into the Wings' lineup next season if he keeps this up. IMO, Ilya is the best pure offense guy out there. Plus at 22 there is room to grow. Grigorenko could have stepped into the lineup the year of his accident (just prior obviously) and he could have stepped right into the lineup this year. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Swift 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2005 IMO, Ilya is the best pure offense guy out there. Plus at 22 there is room to grow. Grigorenko could have stepped into the lineup the year of his accident (just prior obviously) and he could have stepped right into the lineup this year. peace I'm kinda suprised this debate about Kovalchuk has dragged on like this, and I don't mean to continue it, but, IMO, you could indeed make a very strong case for Ilya being the best pure offensive guy out there. However, the statement he made was that Kovalchuk was the best forward in the world, not the best pure offensive talent. While most people would say the title of best forward would go to Iginla, my vote is for little Martin St. Louis. Anyways, I feel kinda bad for Grigorenko. He should've been in the league by now had it not been for that accident. I totally agree with you there. I am glad, however, that the Wings are allowing him to regain his "pre-accident" form before they stick him into the lineup. Although Igor is indeed a fairly mature prospect (isn't he like 22?), I've never been a fan of rushing players before they're ready. Although, it doesn't appear if Detroit will still be allowed to let their solid European prospects to develop overseas for long periods of time like we have done in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 9, 2005 http://www.severstalclub.ru/modules.php?op...order=0&thold=0 Two more assists in a 3-4 loss today. 4g 10a in 13 games. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERSTUD 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 (edited) SEVERSTAL (Cherepovets) – NEFTEKHIMIK (Nizhnekamsk) – 3:4 (0:0, 3:2, 0:2). GOALS: - 1:0 Trubachev 3 (Grigorenko, 21.04), - 1:1 Kasyanov 2 (Chistokletov, Balmin, 24.01), - 1:2 Konkov 2 (Sokolov, Kraev, 32.25), - 2:2 Gorelov 1 (Bulatov, Cierny, 35.17), - 3:2 Bulatov 1 (Soin, 37.55), - 3:3 Kasyanov 3 (Chistokletov, Ugarov, 50.04), - 3:4 Kraev 2 (Simakov, 56.10). one assist reported by rushockey.com, but i'll take the team's word for it and go with two assists! Edited October 10, 2005 by SUPERSTUD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 hockeydb.com only gave him one for the game so that's 2 to 1 and I'll go with that. Still it's 13 points in 13 games. He had 18 in 41 games last season (all 18 points scored in the last 25 games after a horribly slow start because the coaches wouldn't let him play and get adjusted so he got himself traded). peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimeBinder 28 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 Point per game is good as long as he keeps it up.Hate to see him as a streaky player. It'll be great to see him over here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted October 10, 2005 i'm putting alot of hope in this kid. If he's half the player ya'll say he is we're going to have quite an offensive force next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 Stupid question alert!!!!!!! But if the Wings could clear up some room under the cap, could Grigorenko join the team say before Christmas this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERSTUD 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 (edited) Stupid question alert!!!!!!! But if the Wings could clear up some room under the cap, could Grigorenko join the team say before Christmas this year? mowers, maltby, cleary, chelios, woolly. (or any combination of these, i would not complain.) Edited October 11, 2005 by SUPERSTUD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 Stupid question alert!!!!!!! But if the Wings could clear up some room under the cap, could Grigorenko join the team say before Christmas this year? mowers, maltby, cleary, chelios, woolly. (or any combination of these, i would not complain.) Yeah, let's dump Maltby. Then our top notch penalty kill drops big time. Why don't we cut Draper too? He makes a lot more than Maltby does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimeBinder 28 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 Why not dump Cleary(can't finish) and Mowers for Grigs. WE NEED SCORING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 Why not dump Cleary(can't finish) and Mowers for Grigs. WE NEED SCORING. Wouldn't Grigorenko have to clear waivers as he has played in Russia after October 5th? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 Wouldn't Grigorenko have to clear waivers as he has played in Russia after October 5th? I think that only counts for players that have already been in the league before. peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimeBinder 28 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 Yes he's right. What we need to do is sign him I believe by June/July of 2006 or we lose his rights all together. The new agreement has the sign euro's by2 yrs clause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted October 11, 2005 drop mowers and bring him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satrebil 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2005 drop mowers and bring him up. Yzerman will most likely knock Mowers out of the lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
