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Ozzy only has trade value if you throw in a mid to high round draft pick. Anything after that and your gonna have to empty a bottle or 2 of Rum.

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You two need to loosen up. Couldn't you tell I was making a joke?

Smacks arm* you know, when things are serious leave it to you to make a wise crack tongue.gif good thing i know you all too well.. but when there are two females in the room fighting you may want to step outta the way... i liked barnes joke better. It lightened things up. thumbup.gif

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Also, Osgood's contract does exspire after this season, so I say we should just keep him for the season, and look for a better goalie in the off-season.

I can agree with that! thumbup.gif

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Also, people need to understand that it's not just Osgood's fault that we lose, and his record for this season is pretty good for the amount of games he's played. Like I said, yesterday was not Howard's nor Osgood's fault. It was the refs fault for giving nice well gift-wrapped presents to the Thrashers with 5 on 3 powerplays. The Wings defense needs to step up to, and that's also why Howard and Osgood are letting goals in. It's because defense is not looking sharp, but they're still damn good. And people, stop complaining about Lilja. He's young. I think he's been good, and give him time. But for the goalies, there is more to it than just them folks.

Lilja is 30.

He's had time and just sucks.

Not young. Not gonna get better.

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I dont think Lija ever developed properly. it does not seem like his training was as good as alot of guys that you see out there today!

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In a way, I'm kinda surprised, because he did spend a few years in Nashville, so I thought that he would've gotten some good training there. Oh well. He's got good size, and he's physical, so I really don't know why no one in his life taught he how to use it properly, unless he didn't listen to them.

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In a way, I'm kinda surprised, because he did spend a few years in Nashville, so I thought that he would've gotten some good training there. Oh well. He's got good size, and he's physical, so I really don't know why no one in his life taught he how to use it properly, unless he didn't listen to them.

You must be kidding when you say physical. He doesn't do anything useful besides get in the way. The reason he isn't with Nashville anymore is because he sucked to bad to stay especially because he was with the team before it started becoming really competitive.

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Either way, I don't give a damn. He's not as bad as everybody thinks. To me, he's done okay.

And no, he does not always get in the way. And you also complain that he's' slow. Yeah, when your that big, you're gonna be slow. It's like saying in basketball that because Yeo Ming's good, he should be as fast as Dwayne Wade. Lilja's not going to be as fast as Draper or Dastsyk, because of his size.

I like Lilja, and maybe it's because I may be "too" much of a wings fan in some peoples opinion. He's done well, and he's played good for the Wings thus far. His contract is also done after the end of the season, so if he doesn't come back, he doesn't, and I'm not going to cry over it either.

All I'm saying is as far as this season goes, except Lilja for the way he plays.

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let osgood AND legace's contracts expire and pick up luongo and have howard back him up next year thumbup.gif

More likely Stefan Liv would be the backup, with Howard getting a large number of starts in the AHL.

Liv will be too old to go up and down like Howard can, meaning he would have to be waived to be sent down, and he wouldn't clear waivers because he's too good.

Regardless, It's more likely one of Osgood or Legace stays and mentors Liv, and in two years, possibly three, Liv/Howard is the tandem.

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let osgood AND legace's contracts expire and pick up luongo and have howard back him up next year thumbup.gif

Luongo isn't a free agent at the end of the year he is a RFA. Florida has the right to match any offer and if they don't they get draft picks from us depending on how much he signs for. Having Howard as a backup goalie is just stupid!!! How do you expect him to get better if he is sitting on the bench??????? He cant he needs to stay in the AHL only to be brought up in case of injuries.

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Why do you keep stating that you'd like to see him stop breakaways? He's stopped 2 out of the 3 he's faced in the last 2 games. That's pretty darn good IMO. Especially when your defense keeps leaving you out to dry.

I think it's really hilarious when the second the Wings lose it's all Osgood's fault and everyone asks for him to be traded. Ay yi yi. rolleyes.gif

im all with her but wut she forgot to add was that everytime manny loses a game its the teams fault not his just the teams. I love manny also and stuff but the defense plays like crap when ozzies in net and when its mannys turn to be in net there like hey guys lets actually play sum defense. and the most logical reason for that is probably bc they trust ozzie in net more than they do manny and the defense thinks than can relax back bc ozzies got there back when hes in net. but when mannys in net its as if they dont trust him as much as they do ozzie.

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if not luongo, then nobokov

OK Now I know you don't know anything about hockey! Nabokov lol I take it you don't know his stats here they are Gp 31 W 12 L 12 T 5 GAA 3.01 Sv% .888.

Legace and Osgood stat are better then Nabokov's. Why would we want a 500 goalie Please tell me.

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Actually, I'd like to bring Legace back, and go out and get another goaltender by free agency. I say this, because I've heard that Howard is the only decent goaltender in our minor league team, so I would say sign Legace to a one-year contract, and the other person, whomever that may be, to like a two or three-year contract. Have Howard be in the minors for one more year, and then bring him up the next year, and let Legace go.

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Actually, I'd like to bring Legace back, and go out and get another goaltender by free agency. I say this, because I've heard that Howard is the only decent goaltender in our minor league team, so I would say sign Legace to a one-year contract, and the other person, whomever that may be, to like a two or three-year contract. Have Howard be in the minors for one more year, and then bring him up the next year, and let Legace go.

The Wings will only have one veteran goaltender next year, be it Legace, Osgood, or otherwise.

Howard, or more likely Stefan Liv, will be the backup.

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Why do you keep stating that you'd like to see him stop breakaways? He's stopped 2 out of the 3 he's faced in the last 2 games. That's pretty darn good IMO. Especially when your defense keeps leaving you out to dry.

I think it's really hilarious when the second the Wings lose it's all Osgood's fault and everyone asks for him to be traded. Ay yi yi.  rolleyes.gif

I haven't seen Osgood stop any this season so....well maybe 1

Anyhow, a trade needs to be done. The defense and/or goaltending has issues.

After the last few games I think the same could be said about our other goalie and the inability to stop breakaways.

I dread the day Manny goes into a Shoot Out. I will be two and out I am afraid.

So if we are baseing trades back in december on goalies and lack of defending Breakaways... In January I now offer up Manny Legace to be traded biggrin.gif He hasn't proven he can stop them either.

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I've been a huge Wings fan ever since Stevie was drafted and have stuck through the the good and bad and will continue too. But really Osgood has got to go. Let's trade him for a bag of pucks or something. We could atleast get some use out of them. Everytime a shot comes from the blueline I have to close my eyes, because 75% of the time they go in on Osgood even if there is no screen. Bring up Howard. He's way more solid and stays in position alot better than Osgood. Even Give him away....PLEASE!!!!!!

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Let's trade him for a bag of pucks or something.

I would just put him on waivers. No team would possibly part with a whole bag of pucks for Mr. Swiss Cheese. Those who feel he was a big part of the 97-98 cup are just ding-bats. The defense carried him to the cup. Go ahead Osgood fans, have a field day with this one. I said to myself that if the Minnasota game goes like the Dallas 6-3 game, which it almost did, I would raise the money myself to buy out that bonehead's contract. Team first, Ozzy last. Put that idiot on waivers. mad.gif OZZY battle.gif

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OK Now I know you don't know anything about hockey! Nabokov lol I take it you don't know his stats here they are Gp 31 W 12 L 12 T 5 GAA 3.01 Sv% .888.

Legace and Osgood stat are better then Nabokov's. Why would we want a 500 goalie Please tell me.

ok nabokov is far better than both osgood and legace. he is also younger. if he was placed on a good team like detroit, he would shine.

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San Jose would not trade Nabakov for just Hudler and Osgood. No way. I can't ever see that happening. You'll need a cheap player or a mid to low pick in that deal going to San Jose for just Nabakov.

I also don't want to see Nabakov here, because the shoulder that he had operation on hasn't been the same since then. If you can get the puck up high towards that operated shoulder, you can score if your shot is fast enough, because his speed with that shoulder has gone down. That could be a problem throughout the season, and I don't want to have him out because he goes down because of that shoulder again.

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