Samsonov on Waivers

[superstarsingh 23]

Pens

[Earthhuman 8]

I really think he would work good here alot of talent the habs only had like 3 good players, he would be great add on for the playoffs i think, plus maybe he can score in the playoffs unlike Pavel who is going to be askin for 7 mill from what i have read on other blogs sounds like another #91 in the making does great in DET head gets big wants alot of money will leave and will not do alot on any other team. We may need him next year i think he has a chance to be a sure 40 50 point guy a year.

i dont no wut ur sayin u need 2 use periods more often cause otherwise it looks liek a scrambled mess of words & no 1 will hav any idea wut ur sayin so i just think seperate ur thots w/ some periods and u will find that people will understand u do u no what i mean plz explain the part about #91 i realy only got the gist of it.

Ok?

[Earthhuman 8]

Pens

Definitely. Win-win for the Pens and Samsonov, both- Samsonov needs an offensive minded team, Pens are... oh geez, 3rd in league scoring?! But they're weak on left wing- Malone is their highest scoring natural left winger.

[superstarsingh 23]

Definitely. Win-win for the Pens and Samsonov, both- Samsonov needs an offensive minded team, Pens are... oh geez, 3rd in league scoring?! But they're weak on left wing- Malone is their highest scoring natural left winger.

Indeed. Surely they will pick him up. They were looking to get rid of Malone right? or was that just a rumour?

[YoungGuns1340 1]

That would make the Pens pretty scary up front but to be honest, I dont think theyd get past an experienced defensive minded team in the playoffs.

[superstarsingh 23]

That would make the Pens pretty scary up front but to be honest, I dont think theyd get past an experienced defensive minded team in the playoffs.

I hope they play Jersey and get knocked out early.

[Shock Wave 0]

Samsonov has a lot more potential then what hes showing now and in the right enviroment he could thrive. I wouldnt be surprised if some team did bite but his salary might be a problem. Nashville would be interesting though.

[timsummers 0]

I really think he would work good here alot of talent the habs only had like 3 good players, he would be great add on for the playoffs i think, plus maybe he can score in the playoffs unlike Pavel who is going to be askin for 7 mill from what i have read on other blogs sounds like another #91 in the making does great in DET head gets big wants alot of money will leave and will not do alot on any other team. We may need him next year i think he has a chance to be a sure 40 50 point guy a year.

the habs only have 3 good players eh? i dont know what planet youre living on but the habs are very deep. Koivu, Plekacic, Kovalev, Higgins, Begin, Souray, Niinimaa just to name a few.

back to reality. Samsonov has already been a 70 point guy twice, so he obviousl;y has the capability to be a 40 point guy. I think that he would be a good fit here, but is not needed if we retain datsyuk.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

the habs only have 3 good players eh? i dont know what planet youre living on but the habs are very deep. Koivu, Plekacic, Kovalev, Higgins, Begin, Souray, Niinimaa just to name a few.

Plekanec? Begin? Niinimaa? Sorry, I'm having a hard time being impressed by guys with 12 and 2 goals, and a Dman who's played a whopping 27 games this year in between scratches.

[Bluedevils_13 0]

The Pens could REALLY use a guy like Maltby.

[timsummers 0]

Plekanec? Begin? Niinimaa? Sorry, I'm having a hard time being impressed by guys with 12 and 2 goals, and a Dman who's played a whopping 27 games this year in between scratches.

you obviously havent watched as many habs games as i have. Dont apologize, it doesnt really matter to be whether these players impress you. Point is they are deeper, especially up front than the wings are. And they certainly have more than 3 "good players" as the previous poster stated.

Also, from what you are saying, you arent impressed with Lang, Filppula, Hudler, or Draper this year?

All i saying is that points arent the only thing to consider when determining whether a player is a good player or not.

Edited February 7, 2007 by timsummers

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

I don't necessarily agree with that either, but Janne Niinimaa? That's a grade A nobody. Steve Begin? Jobber. At least Plekanec is a young man, but he's hardly tearing it up.

[timsummers 0]

Okay ill agree with you on Begin and Janne i suppose, i just kinda threw those names out. My original point is still valid. May i re-present my original point.

the habs are a very deep team, they have many more than 3 good players. i.e.

Johnson, Latendresse, Ryder, Markov, Plekanic, Souray, Koivu, Higgins. And also that young guy Lapierre, i really like the way he plays.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

There ya go. Huet ain't chopped liver either.

[superstarsingh 23]

The Pens could REALLY use a guy like Maltby.

That doesnt change the fact that he wont be traded. Its a good thing too

[sibiriak 84]

you obviously havent watched as many habs games as i have. Dont apologize, it doesnt really matter to be whether these players impress you. Point is they are deeper, especially up front than the wings are. And they certainly have more than 3 "good players" as the previous poster stated.

I'm looking at the Habs roster right now, and I can't imagine how one can argue that they are even close to the Wings in talent.

G: Huet/Aebisher << Hasek/Osgood.

D: A. Markov, Souray, Dandenault, Komosarek, Rivet, Niinimaa, Streit/Bouillon are no better,and probably inferior to Lidstrom, Schneider, D.Markov, Kronwall, Lebda, Chelios, Lilja

C: S.Koivu, Bonk, Begin, Murray/Lapierre < Datsyk/Zetterberg, Draper, Lang, Filppula/Hudler

W: Kovalev, Latendresse, Perezhogin, Ryder, Plekanec, M.Johnson, Downey, (Higgins-injured,Samsonov-waivers) are no better than Zetterberg/Datsyuk, Cleary, Williams, Maltby, Franzen, Holmstrom, Hudler/Filppula, (Samuellson, Kopecky-inj)

Clear advantage to Detroit. Which shows in the Points column too.

[timsummers 0]

I'm looking at the Habs roster right now, and I can't imagine how one can argue that they are even close to the Wings in talent.

G: Huet/Aebisher << Hasek/Osgood.

D: A. Markov, Souray, Dandenault, Komosarek, Rivet, Niinimaa, Streit/Bouillon are no better,and probably inferior to Lidstrom, Schneider, D.Markov, Kronwall, Lebda, Chelios, Lilja

C: S.Koivu, Bonk, Begin, Murray/Lapierre < Datsyk/Zetterberg, Draper, Lang, Filppula/Hudler

W: Kovalev, Latendresse, Perezhogin, Ryder, Plekanec, M.Johnson, Downey, (Higgins-injured,Samsonov-waivers) are no better than Zetterberg/Datsyuk, Cleary, Williams, Maltby, Franzen, Holmstrom, Hudler/Filppula, (Samuellson, Kopecky-inj)

Clear advantage to Detroit. Which shows in the Points column too.

I wouldnt agree with you on the goalie situation. Hasek is the best out of the 4 for sure, but what if he goes down, even just for a few days. Huet/Aebisher are both better than ozzy in my opinion. It just seems like we dont win very much with ozzy in net.

NATURAL wingers (top 4):

MTL-Ryder, Latendresse, Johnson, (Samsonov), Plekanic

DET-(Dats, Hank) neither are wingers....but i guess you could call one of them a wing, Cleary, Homer, Williams.

i would give the edge to MTL for sure. We definitly have the edge in D though both are very talented there.

we have so many centers that its not even worth discussing. But the thing is...our centers that are forced to play wing are less effective there. Where we are deep at center, the habs are at wing. The habs also have a wider array of player types. They have those trigger guys for the PP in Kovalev and Ryder. They have the big point shot in Souray. And they have the grinder, power forward type in Latendresse. And they have Koivu, which speaks for itself. I would definitly like to get some players that will help us in the postseason and make us harder to play against, these are the kind of players that MTL has more of.

[Guest Tunbo Batman]

you obviously havent watched as many habs games as i have. Dont apologize, it doesnt really matter to be whether these players impress you. Point is they are deeper, especially up front than the wings are. And they certainly have more than 3 "good players" as the previous poster stated.

Also, from what you are saying, you arent impressed with Lang, Filppula, Hudler, or Draper this year?

All i saying is that points arent the only thing to consider when determining whether a player is a good player or not.

wow, you have watched more CH games than a red wings fan! congratulations! however, just listing your team and trying to pass any noname player as "depth" is not gonna cut it. Hey look, the habs have 12 forwards! thats depth! They can't even adapt their system to make a 3.5M$ acquisition work, so don't bother trying to impress us with Begin and Lapierre please. Nobody outside MTL gives half a s*** about guys like these.

I wouldnt agree with you on the goalie situation. Hasek is the best out of the 4 for sure, but what if he goes down, even just for a few days. Huet/Aebisher are both better than ozzy in my opinion. It just seems like we dont win very much with ozzy in net.

NATURAL wingers (top 4):

MTL-Ryder, Latendresse, Johnson, (Samsonov), Plekanic

DET-(Dats, Hank) neither are wingers....but i guess you could call one of them a wing, Cleary, Homer, Williams.

i would give the edge to MTL for sure. We definitly have the edge in D though both are very talented there.

we have so many centers that its not even worth discussing. But the thing is...our centers that are forced to play wing are less effective there. Where we are deep at center, the habs are at wing. The habs also have a wider array of player types. They have those trigger guys for the PP in Kovalev and Ryder. They have the big point shot in Souray. And they have the grinder, power forward type in Latendresse. And they have Koivu, which speaks for itself. I would definitly like to get some players that will help us in the postseason and make us harder to play against, these are the kind of players that MTL has more of.

Please.

Souray has NOTHING going for him except his stupid shot.

Souray <<<<<<<<<<Lidstrom

Souray also <<< Schneider

Kovalev? floater....produces quite a few points but 0 team player/very predictable

Ryder? <<<<<Cleary or Holmstrom. cant pass.

Latendresse? please.<<<<<<<<Draper

Koivu......bah. 500 points in 436984567689759687 games. He's okay i guess.

oh, and any goaltender <<<<<<<<<<<<< hungry,healthy Hasek (HHH for short)

PS : MTL<<<<<<<<<<<DET.

EDIT : added some <<<<<<<<<<

[timsummers 0]

wow, you have watched more CH games than a red wings fan! congratulations! however, just listing your team and trying to pass any noname player as "depth" is not gonna cut it. Hey look, the habs have 12 forwards! thats depth! They can't even adapt their system to make a 3.5M$ acquisition work, so don't bother trying to impress us with Begin and Lapierre please. Nobody outside MTL gives half a s*** about guys like these.

do you have to swear and be a complete ******* in every post you make? CH games? explain. I dont live in montreal and the Habs are not my team. I didnt bring it up to begin with, actually. I was merely commenting on some persons post that the habs only have 3 good players, which is not true. I give half a s*** about the players and i probably live closer to detroit than you do. So go ***** in private. If you have nothing intelligent or worth while to say then dont say it.

Souray has NOTHING going for him except his stupid shot.

Souray <<<<<<<<<<Lidstrom

Souray also <<< Schneider

Kovalev? floater....produces quite a few points but 0 team player/very predictable

Ryder? <<<<<Cleary or Holmstrom. cant pass.

Latendresse? please.<<<<<<<<Draper

Koivu......bah. 500 points in 436984567689759687 games. He's okay i guess.

oh, and any goaltender <<<<<<<<<<<<< hungry,healthy Hasek (HHH for short)

PS : MTL<<<<<<<<<<<DET.

EDIT : added some <<<<<<<<<<

ha stupid shot, how is it stupid again? because it goes in the net?

Your opinion on Kovalev is wrong, and thats all thats to it.

Ryder passes just as well and is a better player than cleary, and if it werent for the deflections he would be better than Homer, all around that is.

Have you seen Latendresse play? lets throw a puck into the corner with him and draper and see who comes out with it. He is also a better scorer than draper is, though he is obviously a slower skater.

yeah a hungry HEALTHY Hasek is sure good, but he isnt the best. Id take Brodeur, Luongo, and Kipper ahead of him for sure.

I know his GAA is first or second in the league, but he is playing in front of the best defense in the league as well.

EDIT: draper is the better defensive forward as well, but thats a given. I think that i would take Latendresse over Draper if i could choose, Latendresse is young and is only getting better. And OF COURSE Lids is better than Souray, he is better than every other d man in the league too, i didnt say that he wasnt.

Edited February 7, 2007 by timsummers

[sibiriak 84]

I wouldnt agree with you on the goalie situation. Hasek is the best out of the 4 for sure, but what if he goes down, even just for a few days. Huet/Aebisher are both better than ozzy in my opinion. It just seems like we dont win very much with ozzy in net.

NATURAL wingers (top 4):

MTL-Ryder, Latendresse, Johnson, (Samsonov), Plekanic

DET-(Dats, Hank) neither are wingers....but i guess you could call one of them a wing, Cleary, Homer, Williams.

i would give the edge to MTL for sure. We definitly have the edge in D though both are very talented there.

we have so many centers that its not even worth discussing. But the thing is...our centers that are forced to play wing are less effective there. Where we are deep at center, the habs are at wing. The habs also have a wider array of player types. They have those trigger guys for the PP in Kovalev and Ryder. They have the big point shot in Souray. And they have the grinder, power forward type in Latendresse. And they have Koivu, which speaks for itself. I would definitly like to get some players that will help us in the postseason and make us harder to play against, these are the kind of players that MTL has more of.

If you wish, we can look at the respective roster man for man, and Detroit would come out on top in just about every position. Montreal does have some good, skilled players, but their depth couldn't possibly be compared with Detroit's.

[Kp-Wings 3]

Niinimaa used to be a really good defenseman. I can't believe he's regressed so badly in a period of a few years. It was when he was traded to the Islanders is when it really started. At the time the Islanders had Aucoin, Jonsson, and Hamerlik, which basically meant Niinimaa's minutes were being cut back from a #1 d-man to a #4 or 5 d-man. I don't know what happened to him, but he used to be good.

[kozac 10]

I have a feeling that samsonov would fit in with the wings perfectly, unfortunately he doesn't address any of the Wings' needs right now except for being a right hand shot.

Niinimaa used to be a really good defenseman. I can't believe he's regressed so badly in a period of a few years. It was when he was traded to the Islanders is when it really started. At the time the Islanders had Aucoin, Jonsson, and Hamerlik, which basically meant Niinimaa's minutes were being cut back from a #1 d-man to a #4 or 5 d-man. I don't know what happened to him, but he used to be good.

I agree, he used to be a top-notch defenseman during his days in Edmonton. This happens though, its hard to stay on the top in the best league in the world. Talent must be augmented with presistance, dedication and hard work.