Wings goalie situation

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Maybe the devils get knocked out in the first round , decide to rebuild there team , and trade Broduer to us ?

One can dream

[kylee 727]

i love ozzie.

why couldn't he be the starter again?

he doesn't really look like he's lost a step.

[Guest pornstar]

I think its fair to say its easier to be a quarterback for Michigan than to be a goalie on the Wings. No fan of Detroit will ever be content with the goaltending that Holland puts out, hell i mean people still bitched when we had Hasek, Cujo and Manny...At the end of the day you gotta realize this is worse then beating a dead horse and that we have no say in what happens and we can just cheer for the one between the pipes on any given night and hope for the best

I feel you i live in asheville,you need to get rid of the wolfsack logo and get a tarheel one.

Edited March 19, 2007 by pornstar

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

bring back cujo

Or how about we don't (despite how much he got a bad rep on here).

[Guest pornstar]

Or how about we don't (despite how much he got a bad rep on here).

he got a raw deal,you don't handle that sitution the way the wings did.

[CdnWingsFanEh 2]

If Dom is willing to stay as a backup, we'll dump Ozzie without blinking. I don't think anyone will disagree on that.

I don't think Dom will be back-up. Please see CUJO.

[Outsider 42]

Given consistent playing time, Oz is a more than capable Starter.

He's not a back-up, because he's always gotten better the more he's played.

[Heaton 1]

Given consistent playing time, Oz is a more than capable Starter.

He's not a back-up, because he's always gotten better the more he's played.

Whether that's true or not, Osgood doesn't want to be a #1 goalie anymore.

The fact remains that even if Osgood has the ability, he will never be the undisputed #1 goalie for Detroit ever again.

[WingNut 25 5]

Who knows what will happen with Hasek. You almost have to assume he'll retire after this season. If that is the case, I think the Wings will go after someone via free agency or trade, let Osgood go and bring up one of the kids to be the backup.

Hasek has been great this year but I still wish the Wings had made a play for Luongo in the offseason. I think they could have done it without giving up Dats or Zetter.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Whether that's true or not, Osgood doesn't want to be a #1 goalie anymore.

The fact remains that even if Osgood has the ability, he will never be the undisputed #1 goalie for Detroit ever again.

This post absolutely baffled me.

Edited March 19, 2007 by hockeycrazy3033

[Heaton 1]

This post absolutely baffled me.

Why?

It wasn't a slam against Ozzie, it's obvious he doesn't want to be the #1 again based on him signing the contract he knew his role before he signed it.

As for him never being the #1? That's also a fact based on how it's gone the past 2 years. Osgood still can do it, but management isn't going to let him run with it again. He could be a tandem with Howard, but it will be Howard's show if he's up.

[Outsider 42]

Whether that's true or not, Osgood doesn't want to be a #1 goalie anymore.

The fact remains that even if Osgood has the ability, he will never be the undisputed #1 goalie for Detroit ever again.

Whatever gave you the impression that Osgood doesn't want to be a Starter anymore?

Prior to the Wings signing him last Off-Season he outright stated that he'd love the opportunity to prove that he's still a Starter, but that he'd sign with Detroit in WHATEVER capacity they chose to sign him for.

Then a couple of months ago, during an in-game interview from the bench, he reiterated the same, stating that it would be nice to get back to being the #1, but that it would be "very difficult" to leave Detroit under any circumstances.

Ozzie's here because he WANTS to be here. This is where his heart is. He will always be a Detroit Red Wing.

Don't be surprised to find that Oz is STILL with the Wings even after his playing days are done.

[Heaton 1]

Whatever gave you the impression that Osgood doesn't want to be a Starter anymore?

Prior to the Wings signing him last Off-Season he outright stated that he'd love the opportunity to prove that he's still a Starter, but that he'd sign with Detroit in WHATEVER capacity they chose to sign him for.

Then a couple of months ago, during an in-game interview from the bench, he reiterated the same, stating that it would be nice to get back to being the #1, but that it would be "very difficult" to leave Detroit under any circumstances.

Ozzie's here because he WANTS to be here. This is where his heart is. He will always be a Detroit Red Wing.

Don't be surprised to find that Oz is STILL with the Wings even after his playing days are done.

I'm not disputing that, you're basically making my point. I guess I worded it wrong, Osgood would like to be the starter again, but he realizes he never will be, so he's happy being the backup. If Osgood wanted to be a #1 and that's all he cared about, he wouldn't be in Detroit, because he knows it won't happen here.

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

IMO if the Wings got themselves in the situation where they had an Osgood/Howard/Liv tandem in goal they would be taking a huge step backwards.

[Heaton 1]

IMO if the Wings got themselves in the situation where they had an Osgood/Howard/Liv tandem in goal they would be taking a huge step backwards.

And they would realize it. Hopefully take a half step back to go two steps forward the following year.

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

And they would realize it. Hopefully take a half step back to go two steps forward the following year.

I think the whole Manny Legace situation is still very fresh in the organization's mind and that it would prevent that possibility from happening again anyways.

[Guest Crymson]

That pretty much sums it up. We wont get Biron, he will be signed by the Flyers. We will have Ozzie and Howard next eyar if Dom is not back. Howard may even stay in the AHL again so he can start all year and Liv might be a backup. But Ozzie and Howard seems like a more likely scenario.

Will you please tell me why Holland and Co. would keep a less-than-optimal goaltending tandem when they will be able to afford much better this year?

It won't happen. We're hardly limited to the goalies we have signed right now.

That's what I like to see! Giving credit where it's due. Why can't most people be like that?

I've got respect for you, Tim.

Where the hell do you come up with this stuff? Who said anything about personal feelings? I know you are referring to me, and you're absolutely wrong. This isn't personal. It's me believing and knowing that Ozzie can handle and be successful at being the #1 guy again. Stop with the nonsense comments.

His time with the Isles and Blues is where he played some of his best hockey. Ozzie was easily the Isles best player AND the Blues in the years he was with them. He played some great hockey and was a big reason in why they both went to the post season.

BTW, I wasn't saying that YOU are one of the ones that bash. I was just posting to the majority that are like that.

I understand that you have confidence in Ozzie; however, I also know that you are smart enough to realize that better goalies will be UFAs next season.

Also, I don't mean to be negative, but Ozzie faced constant derision from Isles fans for soft goals during his time there. I don't know about his time with the Blues.

IMO if the Wings got themselves in the situation where they had an Osgood/Howard/Liv tandem in goal they would be taking a huge step backwards.

Agreed.

Also, seeing as that the Wings must constantly be aware of Hasek's groin issues, and that he WAS a major risk, I highly doubt that he'll be the starter next year. I love the guy, but I think that neither Babcock nor Holland will want to risk a season on a groin again if such is not necessary.

This is NOT a shot against Dom--as I've said, I think he's great. It's merely reality, and not a bad one.

Edited March 19, 2007 by Crymson

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Ill hold out for Brodeur till hes Dom's age , even tho I bet theres a 99% chance we neevr get him.

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

Will you please tell me why Holland and Co. would keep a less-than-optimal goaltending tandem when they will be able to afford much better this year?

It won't happen. We're hardly limited to the goalies we have signed right now.

I understand that you have confidence in Ozzie; however, I also know that you are smart enough to realize that better goalies will be UFAs next season.

Also, I don't mean to be negative, but Ozzie faced constant derision from Isles fans for soft goals during his time there. I don't know about his time with the Blues.

Agreed.

Also, seeing as that the Wings must constantly be aware of Hasek's groin issues, and that he WAS a major risk, I highly doubt that he'll be the starter next year. I love the guy, but I think that neither Babcock nor Holland will want to risk a season on a groin again if such is not necessary.

This is NOT a shot against Dom--as I've said, I think he's great. It's merely reality, and not a bad one.

I agree, there's still a big part of me that is worried that something like what happened with Ottawa will happen this year.

[Guest Crymson]

I agree, there's still a big part of me that is worried that something like what happened with Ottawa will happen this year.

Well, that'll be a worst-case situation, like it was this last summer; Holland and Co were practically scrambling to find a goaltender, while Osgood was already signed. The enormous risk taken on Hasek's groin was taken for a reason--and, indeed, people stake the Wings` success on Hasek staying healthy for a reason.. that is, of course, that Osgood is simply not seen as a good option for starting minutes.

The last time Osgood had true success was almost 9 years ago. Ever since 1998-1999, he has never done well in the playoffs. There are, and have usually been, simply better options around, and at many times they've been on teams opposing his. This has, of course, produced unfavorable results for his teams on those occasions.

Edited March 19, 2007 by Crymson

[Never_Retire_Steve 35]

Well, that'll be a worst-case situation, like it was this last summer; Holland and Co were practically scrambling to find a goaltender, while Osgood was already signed. The enormous risk taken on Hasek's groin was taken for a reason--and, indeed, people stake the Wings` success on Hasek staying healthy for a reason.. that is, of course, that Osgood is simply not seen as a good option for starting minutes.

The last time Osgood had true success was almost 9 years ago. Ever since 1998-1999, he has never done well in the playoffs. There are, and have usually been, simply better options around, and at many times they've been on teams opposing his. This has, of course, produced unfavorable results for his teams on those occasions.

The one thing that I do have confidence in is that even if Hasek does go down, I still have faith that we can win because we allow around 20 shots against per game. Let's face it, in the late 90s Vernon and Osgood were not premiere goalies but because we had such dominant teams we were able to get by good and timely goaltending

[Guest Crymson]

Whether that's true or not, Osgood doesn't want to be a #1 goalie anymore.

The fact remains that even if Osgood has the ability, he will never be the undisputed #1 goalie for Detroit ever again.

LOL--coincidence: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...0366/1128/rss16

[interminded 1]

Whether that's true or not, Osgood doesn't want to be a #1 goalie anymore.

The fact remains that even if Osgood has the ability, he will never be the undisputed #1 goalie for Detroit ever again.

I've never met a goalie who doesn't want to be a starter.

Of course Ozzie would want a starting job... preferaby in Detroit..

[Guest Crymson]

I've never met a goalie who doesn't want to be a starter.

Of course Ozzie would want a starting job... preferaby in Detroit..

So did Manny.

[FinRedWing 172]

I believe Dom will most likely retire after this season.

If Dom is willing to stay as a backup, we'll dump Ozzie without blinking. I don't think anyone will disagree on that.

Ozzie will not be first string next year. I also don't think anyone could possibly disagree on that.

WILL anyone disagree with those--especially the third one?

Throughout all the goaltender hooplah of the summer, not one letter of one word out of the mouth of anyone in the organization even pertained slightly to having Osgood as starting goaltender. Mind you, this was after he had been re-signed. As such, while you believe he has the potential to start, I doubt to the extreme that the management will---barring a worst-case scenario---start him next year, especially since several goalies will be out on the market.

Wow,I actually agree with you 100% !