Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) Stevie said that if Pav had been performing in the playoffs, he'd possibly have gotten a max contract. He also said that his attitude and work ethic in the playoffs have been good, despite the low numbers. Edited April 6, 2007 by Hockeytown0001 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Stevie said we started at 4 years, Pavel's man wanted a longer term. Kira could have told you that! I really thought it'd be a 4 or 5 year deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 (edited) I love the fact he is signed, 7 years seems like a lot considering he will be 35 by the end of it... but I'll trust Holland's judgement... for anyone complaining about 6/7 million, it's what he deserves, if he had played on a line with Zetterberg and Bertuzzi all year long he would crack 100 points easily Edited April 6, 2007 by SkaRockSteady Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I must disagree. With Yzerman no less. But he said this will in no way affect how he goes into the playoffs this year. Well if I got my contract, the pressure of performing FOR ONE, is gone, Stevie. Ugh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Haha, now they're talking about Hullie saying Pav wouldn't be back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Kira could have told you that! I really thought it'd be a 4 or 5 year deal. i'm surprised they wanted a longer deal. Didn't holland offer a longer term contract last time, and it was Pavel pushing for the shorter term? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 This is getting good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladdy16 2,154 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Wasn't Kenny balking a few months ago over paying him 6 mil? For this kind of money, Pavel better be the Second Coming, and not just in the playoffs. This really raises the bar for Zetterburg, who's worth more than Dats IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I love the fact he is signed, 7 years seems like a lot considering he will be 35 by the end of it... but I'll trust Holland's judgement... for anyone complaining about 6/7 million, it's what he deserves, if he had played on a line with Zetterberg and Bertuzzi all year long he would crack 100 points easily veyr true , Next seaosn , fi thats a line. Datsyuk and zetteberg and bertuzzi too will be close to the top of the point totals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Wasn't Kenny balking a few months ago over paying him 6 mil? For this kind of money, Pavel better be the Second Coming, and not just in the playoffs. This really raises the bar for Zetterburg, who's worth more than Dats IMHO. Ditto. Zetterberg > Datsyuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 i'm surprised they wanted a longer deal. Didn't holland offer a longer term contract last time, and it was Pavel pushing for the shorter term? Yeah, I think because he wanted to only be signed untill his UFA can up. But he already starting building a house here and all, so why not?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agalloch Report post Posted April 6, 2007 The only good thing about this deal is that Datsyuk and Zetterberg will both be in the top five in scoring next year (and they will, we all know how good they were when they played together), and the fact that the cap will continue to rise, hopefully. But this is so awful. Seven years, and he's making ~one million more than he should. Holland was doing so good up until this point. He really blew this one though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I love the fact he is signed, 7 years seems like a lot considering he will be 35 by the end of it... but I'll trust Holland's judgement... for anyone complaining about 6/7 million, it's what he deserves, if he had played on a line with Zetterberg and Bertuzzi all year long he would crack 100 points easily I don't think Pavel deserves 7 million this season. And the linemates shouldn't factor in. You play with who your linemates are. That's it. Holland's gambling is killing my nerves. Betting on Hasek's groin, Bertuzzi's back, and now locking up a super-talented but playoff underacheiver for 7 years. so far his gambles have paid off. I hope this one does too. A bad showing in the playoffs by Datsyuk pretty much overshadows all the other deals for me. Bert and Hasek he got for practically nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I must disagree. With Yzerman no less. But he said this will in no way affect how he goes into the playoffs this year. Well if I got my contract, the pressure of performing FOR ONE, is gone, Stevie. Ugh! It's not the pressure to perform they want or like, it's the will to perform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Wasn't Kenny balking a few months ago over paying him 6 mil? For this kind of money, Pavel better be the Second Coming, and not just in the playoffs. This really raises the bar for Zetterburg, who's worth more than Dats IMHO. Well i'll leave his regular season stats alone. I just do not think he has shown anything that means something YET, to justify this contract. I simply dont buy the fact we drafted him, so we do all we can to keep him. My belief has always been the onus is on THE PLAYER to show his worth - and then a great management team and organization does their part to reward that. With little to go, except negatives if we're looking, this makes little sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 7 years is a long time, but this looks to me like a statement contract from the Red Wings. They're committed to keeping a core of players, and Datsyuk is one of them, around for the long term. Lots of us have commented that Datsyuk appears to have turned a corner this year. He looks stronger, more determined and better defensively than he ever has. He has carried the team on his back for stretches this year. I would be surprised if the playoffs were a major problem for him the rest of the way. I tend to agree with Yzerman that his playoff troubles are a bit of an anomaly. We'll find out this year, especially if the Red Wings go deep in the playoffs. Lots of players looked like playoff flops until they got a chance to go several rounds in the playoffs. But a bigger part of the commitment is the leadership role the Wings seem to be trusting to Datsyuk. The team has changed since Yzerman and Shanahan left. Remember how clueless they looked on that early west coast road trip last fall? Then there was a players only meeting, and I think the seed of leadership from the young stars like Datsyuk and Zetterberg was finally planted. Now, they seem to be leaders on this team. The coaching staff's system has been fully adopted and the team plays a different style. The way Yzerman sacrificed stats to become a two-way player and really lead the team in the playoffs resembles this situation with Datsyuk, if you ask me. Maybe they felt this was an essential commitment they needed to make to ensure Datsyuk is one of the conerstones of this team. You do need continuity and leadership to maintain the winning year in and out. It is a lot of money (based on the estimates we're hearing), and it's a gamble. Time will tell if it was a smart move or not. And I'm not talking "this summer" time. I'm talking "years from now" time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Dmitriy, if you talk to Pasha, tell him thank you for giving me the one ray of joy I've had in the last two weeks. I had faith he'd stay here and you all thought I was nuts. Well, guess what...I'm not as dumb as you think I am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 It's not the pressure to perform they want or like, it's the will to perform. OK, so he has the will, and doesn't perform? Where are we then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I,m just happy that Dats is signed . These talks where dragging on too long. Now we can concentrate on playoff hockey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agalloch Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Dmitriy, if you talk to Pasha, tell him thank you for giving me the one ray of joy I've had in the last two weeks. I had faith he'd stay here and you all thought I was nuts. Well, guess what...I'm not as dumb as you think I am. You're happy about this? I know you love the guy, but this is the definition of overpayment. Maybe Hank will continue to be the saint that he is, and will sign a 7 year/14 million contract in two years. That'd help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dats 1 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I will post press conf. photos on Pavel Datsyuk offissial website latter today. Come and see tonight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sibiriak 84 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 I must disagree. With Yzerman no less. But he said this will in no way affect how he goes into the playoffs this year. Well if I got my contract, the pressure of performing FOR ONE, is gone, Stevie. Ugh! Toquote Yzerman (again): "Pavel is not motivated by money, he wants to do well and prove his critics wrong." The fact that you are motivated by money (as you just said), explains why you think that everyone else is greedy, but doesn't make it so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 You're happy about this? I know you love the guy, but this is the definition of overpayment. Maybe Hank will continue to be the saint that he is, and will sign a 7 year/14 million contract in two years. That'd help. Yeh well some think Sanjaya from American Idol is a good singer, and should still be on the show. If someone is so in love with a player, that they can't talk both sides of an argument, their opinion isn't really meaningful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dats 1 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 Dmitriy, if you talk to Pasha, tell him thank you for giving me the one ray of joy I've had in the last two weeks. I had faith he'd stay here and you all thought I was nuts. Well, guess what...I'm not as dumb as you think I am. I never think that you are dumb, and i will tel him "thank you". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted April 6, 2007 OK, so he has the will, and doesn't perform? Where are we then? What I ment is just because the pressure of a contract is on you, you shouldn't become a better player (though it happens all the time). And more importantly, without the pressure of the contract, you shouldn't give up the will to perform. You said "Well if I got my contract, the pressure of performing FOR ONE, is gone", and I thought you ment that you wouldnt play as hard or care as much. That's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
