Datsyuk Signs 7-year, $46.9M Contract Extension

[motorcitykid 42]

Toquote Yzerman (again): "Pavel is not motivated by money, he wants to do well and prove his critics wrong."

The fact that you are motivated by money (as you just said), explains why you think that everyone else is greedy, but doesn't make it so.

No i'm talking reality. The pressure was there this year to perform. He was looking for a new contract.

I'm in no way suprised he has been as good as he has been. Seen it MANY times before.

But now that he's signed the deal, ya gotta know the pressure is in no way the same for him now, cause do or die, he's got the deal.

Plus I can only go by what we know of Pavel from his past, can I?

Edited April 6, 2007 by motorcitykid

[Zeta Power 40 1]

sorry guys im late into this but I heard he's signed for 7 years and it's between 6-7 a season? Is that correct? We don't have an exact amount yet?

[motorcitykid 42]

sorry guys im late into this but I heard he's signed for 7 years and it's between 6-7 a season? Is that correct? We don't have an exact amount yet?

No word, but it seems to be "around" 6 million.

[Zeta Power 40 1]

No word, but it seems to be "around" 6 million.

thanks, i appreciate it.

[sibiriak 84]

No i'm talking reality. The pressure was there this year to perform. He was looking for a new contract.

I'm in no way suprised he has been as good as he has been. Seen it MANY times before.

But now that he's signed the deal, ya gotta know the pressure is in no way the same for him now, cause do or die, he's got the deal.

Plus I can only go by what we know of Pavel from his past, can I?

Yes, and so do Holland and Yzerman, and they know Pavel way better than you.

As to the pressure, Datsyuk didn't score much in the first part of the season, and people here were blasting him then.

He performed well since, so now he is a greedy bastard playing for a contract. He can't win whatever he does.

Again, I will go with Yzerman's opinion over yours.

[akustyk 84]

fu* bulls*

they sign him prior to the playoffs for a very long term and for huge bucks...

my respect to Holland just dropped a lot. not a very smart move IMHO. if you're looking for another Yashin-story here it is, with quite a likelihood

[rage 24]

Plus I can only go by what we know of Pavel from his past, can I?

I know it's not the same, but you could take a look at his performance in the Russian league Playoffs he was in the year of the lookout. I believe he was healthy then too.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

I think its time to face the cold hard facts:

Every player on the Red Wings at one point or another is Lazy and they Sucked!

Edited April 6, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25

[motorcitykid 42]

fu* bulls*

they sign him prior to the playoffs for a very long term and for huge bucks...

my respect to Holland just dropped a lot. not a very smart move IMHO. if you're looking for another Yashin-story here it is, with quite a likelihood

You aint the only one. Radio and other boards right now ain't pretty.

[BlueMonk 102]

You aint the only one. Radio and other boards right now ain't pretty.

Radio where?

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Everyone on other teams' forums/NHL boards are laughing at this deal.

Hopefully come post season we'll have the last laugh.

[akustyk 84]

oh, and BTW: this will make Hank agent demand similar money. and it either means we'll have to dump him, or have 12~14 M$ stacked for just 2 players, which means the rest of our forward corps will consist of guys making 1 M$ on average. and that won't be youth, since we barely have some in the system read: we'll have a single quality scoring line (if Holland finds some physical presence for it) and 3 mediocre checking lines. cool... just f* cool...!

call me pesimist, but our future doesn't exactly look bright to me. or rather: it looks like s***. hope I'm wrong, though

Edited April 6, 2007 by akustyk

[Turretin 0]

Everyone on other teams' forums/NHL boards are laughing at this deal.

Hopefully come post season we'll have the last laugh.

We've been laughing at them all the way to the bank for the last 15 years, so I think I'll be okay.

[motorcitykid 42]

Radio where?

1270 right now has some good phone ins.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Terri thinks the deal is a stroke of genius. Mike likes it as well, but just doesn't like that it's for 7 years.

[Earthhuman 8]

A little late, bet I spent about an hour and a half to get through 17 pages...

I believe, in a deal, the GM should walk away happier then player. That was not true here. This deal isn't great, even considering Holland's arguement, but it's better then Datsyuk walking.

Lets hope Yzerman is just as good at doing business as he is at winning cups.

[Matt 1,049]

At this point it appears that blasting the deal is the quick knee-jerk reaction when you see the numbers involved in it.

But, looking at the bigger picture I think it's solid deal. As Terry Foster (I think) pointed out, it's very likely the "dark days" of the NHL could very well be behind us... The cap is going up again and that makes the ceiling for the max-contract higher and higher... It's not out of the realm of possibility that max contract will, again, top $10M two or three years down the road.

So, just 2-3 years in the contract the potential is there for the Wings to have a 100pt. player for just over HALF the max-contract amount.

If the Wings signed him to a shorter deal, say 2-3 years, and he performs as expected you're looking at a $10M contract or he walks. He can't even re-negotiate his deal if he feels he's "underpaid" -- the new CBA doesn't even allow it.

[Andy Pred 48 337]

laugh all they like, theres a few GM's having to look at other option's now Pav is off the UFA list. Most other teams would welcome him onto their roster for sure so its sour grapes mostly.

I think that Dats is going to silence a few of his critics come this playoff

[Earthhuman 8]

oh, and BTW: this will make Hank agent demand similar money. and it either means we'll have to dump him, or have 12~14 M$ stacked for just 2 players, which means the rest of our forward corps will consist of guys making 1 M$ on average. and that won't be youth, since we barely have some in the system

No kidding. But isn't he signed for around 6 million? Lidstrom and Zetterberg are our 6-7 million players. More than two and you better be Ken ******* Holland. Oh wait, not worried.

[glasgowcelticwing 18]

Everyone on other teams' forums/NHL boards are laughing at this deal.

Hopefully come post season we'll have the last laugh.

They are all jealous, the way dats has been playing almost every team wished they had him.

[motorcitykid 42]

At this point it appears that blasting the deal is the quick knee-jerk reaction when you see the numbers involved in it.

But, looking at the bigger picture I think it's solid deal. As Terry Foster (I think) pointed out, it's very likely the "dark days" of the NHL could very well be behind us... The cap is going up again and that makes the ceiling for the max-contract higher and higher... It's not out of the realm of possibility that max contract will, again, top $10M two or three years down the road.

So, just 2-3 years in the contract the potential is there for the Wings to have a 100pt. player for just over HALF the max-contract amount.

If the Wings signed him to a shorter deal, say 2-3 years, and he performs as expected you're looking at a $10M contract or he walks. He can't even re-negotiate his deal if he feels he's "underpaid" -- the new CBA doesn't even allow it.

What if he shoots to superstardom, as Holland figures he will, you think he'll be happy at 6 million with lots of players not "as good" making more? I can't see it. Surely not if Greenstein is still his guy.

Plus I just don't see how playoffs are not a factor.

Edited April 6, 2007 by motorcitykid

[vladdy16 2,154]

No kidding. But isn't he signed for around 6 million? Lidstrom and Zetterberg are our 6-7 million players. More than two and you better be Ken ******* Holland. Oh wait, not worried.

Nope, I'm fairly certain Z's making about 2.5 a season for the next two years. That's why I said this really raises the bar for him.

[Guest Agalloch]

Everyone on other teams' forums/NHL boards are laughing at this deal.

Hopefully come post season we'll have the last laugh.

Even if he scores a hundred ******* points in sixteen games this is still an awful deal.

[rwfan007 18]

What if he shoots to superstardom, as Holland figures he will, you think he'll be happy at 6 million with lots of players not "as good" making more? I can't see it. Surely not if Greenstein is still his guy.

Plus I just don't see how playoffs are not a factor.

he can't restructure his contract, to the best of my knowledge. I could be wrong, since I don't have the Idiots guide to the CBA.

[rage 24]

At this point it appears that blasting the deal is the quick knee-jerk reaction when you see the numbers involved in it.

But, looking at the bigger picture I think it's solid deal. As Terry Foster (I think) pointed out, it's very likely the "dark days" of the NHL could very well be behind us... The cap is going up again and that makes the ceiling for the max-contract higher and higher... It's not out of the realm of possibility that max contract will, again, top $10M two or three years down the road.

So, just 2-3 years in the contract the potential is there for the Wings to have a 100pt. player for just over HALF the max-contract amount.

If the Wings signed him to a shorter deal, say 2-3 years, and he performs as expected you're looking at a $10M contract or he walks. He can't even re-negotiate his deal if he feels he's "underpaid" -- the new CBA doesn't even allow it.

Perfect.

They say we are building this team around Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Kronwall. Well we know how much money Dats and Kronwall are going to make for at least the next 5 years. That allows us to plan way more in advace on what players we want or go after, and how much we have to spend to surround them with the best supporting cast.

I like the way we are working the Cap system so far.