russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Shootouts in the playoffs...HELL NO... Shootouts in the regular season...eh they are fun to watch so why not, I like watching them. As far as the "shootouts shouldn't control who makes the playoffs" argument, then all shootout points have to be taken out not just the last game of the season so no whining Toronto... Here are the standings without ANY shootout wins: 1Ottawa 103 pts (46 Wins) 2New Jersey 97 pts 3Atlanta 90 pts 4Buffalo 103 Pts (43 Wins) 5Pittsburgh 95 Pts 6Carolina 88 Pts 7Toronto 87 Pts 8Montreal 85 Pts 9Florida 84 Pts (33 Wins) 10New York Rangers 84 Pts (33 Wins) 11NY Islanders 84 Pts (32 Wins) 12Tampa Bay 83 Pts 13Washington 69 Pts 14Boston 65 Pts 15Philadelphia 55 Pts 1Detroit 111 Pts 2Anaheim 106 Pts 3Vancouver 100 Pts 4San Jose 105 Pts 5Nashville 104Pts 6Dallas 98 Points 7Minnesotta 94 Pts 8Calgary 93 Pts 9Colorado 90 pts 10St Louis 75 PTs I got lazy but you got the point... Moral of the story, the shootout is now part of the regular season, and i think that that is cool. BUT i also agree that it is not for the playoffs at ALL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 One abnormally long OT and all of a sudden it's time to do away with them to "protect the players?" Oh my dear God. On a related note, can anyone tell me what the legal consequences are for beating someone to death with a stack of their own columns? Well, if you felt your IQ was in danger after reading them, I guess you have a self-defence case on your hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swimming with the Sharks 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=twoo...n&type=lgns if she had any jounalistic credibilty before this article, it should be lost forever, as should her articles. I disagree with everything she said in this article, and the part about shootouts deciding who makes the playoffs...i dont know where to get this info, but can someone find out if shoot out points got one team in the playoffs instead of another? Utter crap. "Hockey players are not warriors, and they are not courageous"?! By the way, the Islanders beat Toronto by one point for the final playoff spot by virtue of their shootout win against New Jersey in the last game of the regular season. (Toronto would've won the tiebreaker had the Islanders lost.) Edited April 17, 2007 by Swimming with the Sharks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotzman 29 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 That chick is whack! Her thoughts are typical of the new and improved thought policing society that we live in. They try to make children's sports have no losers... they all get to win. This is just the politically correct "next step" in her crazed agenda. Soon there will be 30 winners in the NHL every year. They all deserve it because, "They're good enough, smart enough and dog-gone it, people like them." If you asked one of these poor abused hockey players their thoughts on winning the Stanley Cup via a shootout, I think they would either kick your ass and/or vomit... what a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) I have hated the shoot-out since day one, and nothing will change that. It is a stupid way to decide a winner, and the Red Wings suck at them so it makes it even worse. I would consider not watching playoff hockey if they ever put this idea of shoot-outs into effect. Knowing Bettman, he will think this is a brilliant idea and put it into place next season. This is pure insanity from Yorio. Edited April 17, 2007 by GoWings1905 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieBoy 2 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) I used shootout stats from http://jeays.net/shootout/index.htm. I'm assuming it's accurate but have not verified it. It's just the first google hit I had that contained shootout wins. Given that, here is the list of teams in order by their "adjusted" standings taking in to account the points they got from shootouts (but not dealing with tie breakers). The last 2 columns are 'SO Wins' and 'Adjusted'. Adjusted is equal to 'Pts' - 'SO Wins'. Of course this does not account for the manner in which a team would play in the 5 minute overtime. With the shootout they might play more defensively to get to the shootout while lacking a shootout they'd play for the win in the 5 minutes of overtime. I apologize for the formatting but I didn't have time to make it pretty. Basically this shows the same teams in the West would have made it in but seeded differently (Detroit would still be #1 and we'd still be playing Calgary first round). The east is different. The Islanders and Tampa Bay would be out and Carolina and Toronto would be in. Someone help me out with the tie breakers but I think the Rangers might even have been out of it with Montreal taking their place. They would have equal points and wins but I can't remember if GF is the next tie breaker or if it's the GF/GA differential. Eastern Conference W PTS GF GA S/O WINS Adjusted 1 *-Buffalo 53 113 308 242 10 103 4 x-Ottawa 48 105 288 221 2 103 2 y-New Jersey 49 107 216 201 10 97 5 x-Pittsburgh 47 105 277 246 10 95 3 y-Atlanta 43 97 246 245 7 90 e-Carolina 40 88 241 253 0 88 e-Toronto 40 91 258 269 4 87 6 x-NY Rangers 42 94 242 216 9 85 e-Montreal 42 90 245 256 5 85 8 x-NY Islanders 40 92 247 240 8 84 e-Florida 35 86 247 257 2 84 7 x-Tampa Bay 44 93 253 261 10 83 e-Washington 28 70 235 286 1 69 e-Boston 35 76 219 289 9 67 e-Philadelphia 22 56 214 303 1 55 Western Conference W PTS GF GA S/O WINS Adjusted 1 z-Detroit 50 113 254 199 2 111 2 y-Anaheim 48 110 258 208 4 106 5 x-San Jose 51 107 258 199 2 105 4 x-Nashville 51 110 272 212 6 104 3 y-Vancouver 49 105 222 201 5 100 6 x-Dallas 50 107 226 197 9 98 7 x-Minnesota 48 104 235 191 10 94 8 x-Calgary 43 96 258 226 3 93 e-Colorado 44 95 272 251 5 90 e-St. Louis 34 81 214 254 6 75 e-Columbus 33 73 201 249 5 68 e-Edmonton 32 71 195 248 3 68 e-Chicago 31 71 201 258 6 65 e-Los Angeles 27 68 227 283 4 64 e-Phoenix 31 67 216 284 5 62 EDIT: The Rangers would not have been out since the 3rd tie breaker is head to head games and the Rangers had the advantage there. Edited April 17, 2007 by StevieBoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted April 17, 2007 I was just about to post about this. WOW! Kara Yorio had, in the past, pretty much lost so much credibility to me that I'd stopped caring what she said.. but woooooooooooowwwwww. I hope the fans crucify her for this. Wow. That's all I can say. Wow. What a moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tunbo Batman Report post Posted April 17, 2007 i suggest shooting at kara yorio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Oh please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houdini 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Eastern Conference W PTS GF GA S/O WINS Adjusted 1 *-Buffalo 53 113 308 242 10 103 4 x-Ottawa 48 105 288 221 2 103 2 y-New Jersey 49 107 216 201 10 97 5 x-Pittsburgh 47 105 277 246 10 95 3 y-Atlanta 43 97 246 245 7 90 e-Carolina 40 88 241 253 0 88 e-Toronto 40 91 258 269 4 87 6 x-NY Rangers 42 94 242 216 9 85 e-Montreal 42 90 245 256 5 85 8 x-NY Islanders 40 92 247 240 8 84 e-Florida 35 86 247 257 2 84 7 x-Tampa Bay 44 93 253 261 10 83 e-Washington 28 70 235 286 1 69 e-Boston 35 76 219 289 9 67 e-Philadelphia 22 56 214 303 1 55 Western Conference W PTS GF GA S/O WINS Adjusted 1 z-Detroit 50 113 254 199 2 111 2 y-Anaheim 48 110 258 208 4 106 5 x-San Jose 51 107 258 199 2 105 4 x-Nashville 51 110 272 212 6 104 3 y-Vancouver 49 105 222 201 5 100 6 x-Dallas 50 107 226 197 9 98 7 x-Minnesota 48 104 235 191 10 94 8 x-Calgary 43 96 258 226 3 93 e-Colorado 44 95 272 251 5 90 e-St. Louis 34 81 214 254 6 75 e-Columbus 33 73 201 249 5 68 e-Edmonton 32 71 195 248 3 68 e-Chicago 31 71 201 258 6 65 e-Los Angeles 27 68 227 283 4 64 e-Phoenix 31 67 216 284 5 62 EDIT: The Rangers would not have been out since the 3rd tie breaker is head to head games and the Rangers had the advantage there. Ah, and we would have won the Presidents Trophy, as usual. Oh well, perhaps it's cursed and we are better off this way. - Houdini Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingedWheelin06 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) has she ever heard of hockey before? Maybe she's like the guys on ESPN who talk about hockey in between getting themselves off with a 2 hour NFL special about the NFL schedule... idiot. Edited April 17, 2007 by WingedWheelin06 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winged Scooter 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Just out of curiosity I wonder how much hate mail she receives from true hockey fans like ourselves who are duped in to reading her drivel because we think it might actually have something do with hockey,.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 I went ahead and read that crap she called an article. Truly pathetic. I honestly wonder if maybe this crap was her audition for the four letter network.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Okay, let's determine the cup winner through a shootout, let's do it! Let's get rid of the most exciting thing in the playoffs, sudden death, let's do it! Dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm8352 3 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 How does she even have a job? She is a terrible writer and beyond that has no respect for the game and little knowledge of it. The Sporting News must have gotten in trouble for not having enough female employees so they hired her to cover their butts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowmansBrain 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Why does yahoo even post this trash? What a fool! What qualifies this woman as a sports writer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel1 32 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 I've actually written a comment to her suggesting that she report on something that she actually knows about. Her articles are usually full of glaring errors and incorrect stats. She is the worst hockey writer I've ever encountered. I hereby decree by the powers vested in me that for now and ever on that anyone who is guilty of committing an aggregious error of that highest magnitude shall be deemed to have "PULLED A YORIO". Score on your own net... you've just pulled a Yorio. Drop a touchdown pass... you've pulled a Yorio too. Walk in the winning run... you have now pulled a Yorio jackass! Maybe if her boss hears of enough people who've pulled a Yorio eventually she'll get canned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HomeNugget 2 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) i have even better idea. after one shootout round they should have a hardest shot competition. if its still tied after that we can do the fastest skater. then just repeat those until we have a winner. then coaches can take everyone out for pizza afterwards for trying their hardest. Edited April 17, 2007 by HomeNugget Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hito 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Yorio vomits all over the screen and for some reason people read it. Good for a bit of a laugh now and again, but honestly she is wrong so often that if you just accept that the opposite of what she writes is true, you'd come off as a fairly knowledable fan.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 How is this woman still employed? Seriously, how? Just when I think she can't reach a higher level of idiocy, there she goes. Let's decide who wins the Stanley Cup with the shootout! And while we're at it... Let's determine the World Series winner with a home run derby! Let's determine the NBA Finals winner with a slam dunk competition! Let's determine the Super Bowl winner with...uhm...whoever does the best end zone dance! (can you tell I don't watch football?) Just as idiotic, just as Yorio. You know, I have an idea...I know some people like to call things "retarded", although that's not exactly the most polite term to use for such things. So in its place, why don't we just use "Yorio"? Example: "Shootouts in the playoffs would be fun!" "Shut up, dude, you're so Yorio." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 She's karazy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenova0 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Should we limit baseball games to 15 innings, and then have a home run derby? Absolutely a dumb idea IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 Hockey players are not warriors or courageous? Okay, Ms. Yorio, does your job require you to block a 100 MPH slap shot from Zdeno Chara, or finish your column 5 minutes after receiving a broken nose? I didn't think so. Please die or get a new profession where you aren't paid for your opinion. Whichever comes first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotzman 29 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 I hereby decree by the powers vested in me that for now and ever on that anyone who is guilty of committing an aggregious error of that highest magnitude shall be deemed to have "PULLED A YORIO". Score on your own net... you've just pulled a Yorio. Drop a touchdown pass... you've pulled a Yorio too. Walk in the winning run... you have now pulled a Yorio jackass! Maybe if her boss hears of enough people who've pulled a Yorio eventually she'll get canned. I like it, although it backfired on the guy from the Office... Pulling a Schrute fell on deaf ears. I think we should try it anyway... that chick totally pulled a her on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Z 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2007 I COMPLETLY disagree, but she does have apoint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites