Go Ducks

[Duckboy6 0]

You forgot too European. They also don't fight.

Please tell me your kidding???? we dont fight???? we only led the lead by like 20 majors

[Duckette 0]

Please tell me your kidding???? we dont fight???? we only led the lead by like 20 majors

Chill. That was an end of a series of sarcasm.

[Duckboy6 0]

ooooooo..... well itll be a great series

[calfan 0]

I posted this in the wrong spot, so here it is again.

Here's my take:

Goaltending - call it a draw individually, advantage Ducks for the tandem should the starters go down. However, Dom will provide more heart attack moments than JS and is more likely to cost his team a game. Both can easily steal a game.

D - advantage Ducks. I think all can agree that the top 3 dmen in the world are in this series. The Ducks have two of them. That said, TEAM defense is advantage Wings. Best GAA in the playoffs and I personally will take Chris Draper over anyone, no matter how underappreciated/overlooked they are.

F - tie. This one is so close and will swing back and forth throughout the series and throughout each game. If they play as they can and as they should, the Ducks two top lines are more physical than the Wings and this will play a factor against the depleted Wings D. The Ducks are scoring slightly more goals than the Wings through 2 rounds, but the Wings big guns have shown up more than the Ducks so far.

Coaching - even. Both are more than adequate coaches, but let's face it, neither is the type to be a significant factor in the playoffs.

Style - I don't care about the differences, what I see is one large similarity. Both teams just keep coming. If there is one word to describe the Wings its poise - they never seem to lose it. Even if they get running around in their own zone, its more of a shift thing than a game thing. They are very European - just play the system. The Ducks are much the same, but their's is based more on speed than poise. Again, they just keep coming and coming and coming.

Intangibles - and here is where you throw out everything I just said, cuz it just doesn't matter. Paper evaluations are typically meaningless. On paper the Flames shouldn't have won in 2004 and the Wings shouldn't have beat SJ the last series. The Ducks know they can beat the Wings. They did it in 2003 and this year they have a far better team. As well, go back to what I said about style. The Wings are European, the Ducks are North American. More emotion, more dedication to the team and to each other than to the system. I'll take North American over European every time.

BUT, my belief is that you want to play the Wings in round 1 or 2, not 3 or 4. They've had two rounds of success and now they can start to smell it. Too many guys have been there, done that, got the ring. You can say what you want about old and slow, but experience and desire can make a huge difference too. The Wings are not just glad to be here and now that the goal is in sight, they'll be even tougher to play. Advantage Wings.

In the SJ series, the hidden intangible was adversity. The Wings handled it better than the Sharks and used that to turn and win the series. To me the hidden intangible is aggression. The Ducks can turn and win this series if they stick to a relentless attacking/hitting style of play. Not because they'll wear the Wings down, but because they seem to feed off of that style and find the open ice.

You have to go with the intangibles. Wings in 6 unless the Ducks kick in the hidden intangibles.

[ducksfanforlife 0]

You Ducks fans have come to our boards, insulted our team and ourselves, and made general nuisances of yourselves. Compared to Sharks fans, you are scum. You are in fact even worse than the Calgary trolls, and the series hasn't even started yet.

Off with you. You're annoying and disruptive, and you have nothing constructive to say.

Edit: this excepts a choice few, notably Wild Wing.

Hey,

I'm defending my team....not being an ******* to you guys in anyway so where you're getting your info is beyond me.....first of all like I said I already got the message from Duckette that Ducks fans were being jerks so I come here in peace and all you do is get on top of me.....you're gonna get the other side of me soon.

[Dabura 12,232]

Coaching - even. Both are more than adequate coaches, but let's face it, neither is the type to be a significant factor in the playoffs.

Putting Lang in the doghouse was a good move.

[Duckette 0]

If Babcock thinks he can read the Ducks, then he is screwed. We aren't even close to the same team we were in '03. We don't trap anymore, we attack. We only have 4 players on our roster from those playoffs. Giguere, Rob Niedermayer, Pahlsson and McDonald (he was injured and never played, but was a member of the team). It's completely different. Babcock even said that to me when I told him thank you for 2003 during a Pre-Season game here in Tampa. He told me 'You're welcome, but be thanking Carlyle for what you have now and what your team does this season, because it isn't what I did.' Classy guy.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

If Babcock thinks he can read the Ducks, then he is screwed. We aren't even close to the same team we were in '03. We don't trap anymore, we attack. We only have 4 players on our roster from those playoffs. Giguere, Rob Niedermayer, Pahlsson and McDonald (he was injured and never played, but was a member of the team). It's completely different. Babcock even said that to me when I told him thank you for 2003 during a Pre-Season game here in Tampa. He told me 'You're welcome, but be thanking Carlyle for what you have now and what your team does this season, because it isn't what I did.' Classy guy.

Babcock is classy, but hes smart too.

"I never coached Teemu, I never coached Scotty Niedermayer or Pronger, and I'd say they're pretty significant players," Babcock said Wednesday.

Then again, some players are just so well known -- like those three and the Wings' Nicklas Lidstrom and Dominik Hasek -- that everyone in the hockey world is familiar with them.

"You know, we play enough games in the league that I think you know the tendencies of the teams, anyway," Babcock said. "I got a lot of information on Giguere. ... It's like having information on Dom -- so what? You've still got to beat them. The bottom line is we're going to be prepared for them, and they're going to be prepared for us."

[Defenseman13 0]

The general tone of Ducks fans (majority) is..well.... lame.

I remember my first post on this board. I named a few players to watch for (not watch out for) and tried to catch Wings fans up on a series that they may not have watched (sj/NAS).

But to predict a win, to call out all the blah blah blah defense this, offense that... it's a waste. Chest pounding.

I'm not naming names or teams, but some teams you can just see the hockey knowledge and experience. THe way people handle themselves and the way they talk. Even the superstition! I would never claim victory before a series has even started.

I predict... nothing! THEY HAVEN"T EVEN PLAYED ONE GAME YET!

I'm also keeping an eye on this thread... lots of quotiing and requoting to do depending on the outcome.

Go Wings!

[Wild Wing 0]

^If the Ducks lose this series, you can quote me for saying we should have created an effigy of Gordon Bombay.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Are there Red Wings in hockey? No. Are there Maple Leafs in hockey? No. THAT was my point. Don't tell me to do my homework, because I have done it. That pisses me off more than anything else.

Red Wings and Maple Leafs ARE Hockey.

Just kiddin..

[Defenseman13 0]

huh? THere's LOTS of Wings in hockey.

see there's "RED" Kelly....

[Echolalia 2,961]

I said at the beginning of the playoffs that the Sharks had the biggest chance of taking our chances away (imo), and I still believe that. I consider Anaheim another Sharks team, with a weaker offensive lineup, and a more solid goalie (I don't care what any of you say, Nabby was hardly playing like a #1 should play). So logically it should be more difficult for us to score, but at the same time, I don't think we're going to have as hard a time in our zone. We have 4 solid offensive lines that keep surprising us (every single player is contributing offensively to an extent), and thats sure to continue into the next round.

With that said, I still believe this is going to be a heck of a series, once again going to 6 or 7 games.

x factors being Bertuzzi and Jeguire,

If Bert plays in his top form our collective offense will be too much for 5 Norris candidates to handle, and Jeguire for the obvious reasons.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Man, youd think most Ducks fans thought there was only 1 shutdown team in the entire NHL - Moen/Phalsson/Niedermayer. Maybe some of you dont know this, but Maltby-Draper-Cleary isnt such a bad shut down line either. I mean, 1 Selke winner and a few years as 2/3 of Team Canada's "shutdown" line isnt too shabby either, right?

I dont think there is much underestimation of the Ducks on Wings fans parts - how could you really underestimate a team that boasts 2 of the 3 best dman for the past few years? - but there isnt much coming from the other way. Ducks will be the Wings hardest matchup so far...but the same can be said for the Ducks facing the Wings.

[norrisnick 1]

I posted this in the wrong spot, so here it is again.

Here's my take:

Goaltending - call it a draw individually, advantage Ducks for the tandem should the starters go down. However, Dom will provide more heart attack moments than JS and is more likely to cost his team a game. Both can easily steal a game.

D - advantage Ducks. I think all can agree that the top 3 dmen in the world are in this series. The Ducks have two of them. That said, TEAM defense is advantage Wings. Best GAA in the playoffs and I personally will take Chris Draper over anyone, no matter how underappreciated/overlooked they are.

F - tie. This one is so close and will swing back and forth throughout the series and throughout each game. If they play as they can and as they should, the Ducks two top lines are more physical than the Wings and this will play a factor against the depleted Wings D. The Ducks are scoring slightly more goals than the Wings through 2 rounds, but the Wings big guns have shown up more than the Ducks so far.

Coaching - even. Both are more than adequate coaches, but let's face it, neither is the type to be a significant factor in the playoffs.

Style - I don't care about the differences, what I see is one large similarity. Both teams just keep coming. If there is one word to describe the Wings its poise - they never seem to lose it. Even if they get running around in their own zone, its more of a shift thing than a game thing. They are very European - just play the system. The Ducks are much the same, but their's is based more on speed than poise. Again, they just keep coming and coming and coming.

Intangibles - and here is where you throw out everything I just said, cuz it just doesn't matter. Paper evaluations are typically meaningless. On paper the Flames shouldn't have won in 2004 and the Wings shouldn't have beat SJ the last series. The Ducks know they can beat the Wings. They did it in 2003 and this year they have a far better team. As well, go back to what I said about style. The Wings are European, the Ducks are North American. More emotion, more dedication to the team and to each other than to the system. I'll take North American over European every time.

BUT, my belief is that you want to play the Wings in round 1 or 2, not 3 or 4. They've had two rounds of success and now they can start to smell it. Too many guys have been there, done that, got the ring. You can say what you want about old and slow, but experience and desire can make a huge difference too. The Wings are not just glad to be here and now that the goal is in sight, they'll be even tougher to play. Advantage Wings.

In the SJ series, the hidden intangible was adversity. The Wings handled it better than the Sharks and used that to turn and win the series. To me the hidden intangible is aggression. The Ducks can turn and win this series if they stick to a relentless attacking/hitting style of play. Not because they'll wear the Wings down, but because they seem to feed off of that style and find the open ice.

You have to go with the intangibles. Wings in 6 unless the Ducks kick in the hidden intangibles.

North American vs European is a tired and worn out argument.

Chicken-Swede captains will face off for the Cup this spring.

As for picking one of North American or European, I'll take the winners. The Wings have far more winners on their roster than the Ducks. As was mentioned, by Dreger I believe, the Wings know how to close things out once they get close. After tasting bitter defeat in '95 and '96 the Wings have won it all every time they've managed to reach the Conference Finals from there on out. '97, '98, and '02. Which also goes hand in hand with winning the last 11 games where clinching a series was possible.

But yeah... nationality is meaningless to all but Cherry and his ilk these days.

[ducksfanforlife 0]

Man, youd think most Ducks fans thought there was only 1 shutdown team in the entire NHL - Moen/Phalsson/Niedermayer. Maybe some of you dont know this, but Maltby-Draper-Cleary isnt such a bad shut down line either. I mean, 1 Selke winner and a few years as 2/3 of Team Canada's "shutdown" line isnt too shabby either, right?

I dont think there is much underestimation of the Ducks on Wings fans parts - how could you really underestimate a team that boasts 2 of the 3 best dman for the past few years? - but there isnt much coming from the other way. Ducks will be the Wings hardest matchup so far...but the same can be said for the Ducks facing the Wings.

Yeah we know your guys's shutdown line is good.....I mean Kris Draper: what more need you say?

But ours is better

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Yeah we know your guys's shutdown line is good.....I mean Kris Draper: what more need you say?

But ours is better

I hope that was sarcasm. Id say they are pretty even. And what exactly has your shutdown line had to shutdown so far? A whole 2 guys per team?

[Wingsor 2]

You Ducks fans have come to our boards, insulted our team and ourselves, and made general nuisances of yourselves. Compared to Sharks fans, you are scum. You are in fact even worse than the Calgary trolls, and the series hasn't even started yet.

Off with you. You're annoying and disruptive, and you have nothing constructive to say.

Edit: this excepts a choice few, notably Wild Wing.

(besides our own fans)shark fans rock...was a great series to discuss hockey with them, but i have a feeling the anaheim fans are not going to be the same. i agree there are a couple good duck fans here already..i think Wild Wing was one I was chatting with before too.

the san jose series was clean, with clean players on both sides, real hockey, was enjoyable. I'm not expecting the same class and lack of dirty plays with Pronger and Neider out there on this version of the Quackers.

Yeah we know your guys's shutdown line is good.....I mean Kris Draper: what more need you say?

But ours is better

you center out draper? youre going to ignore mr cleary and his two shorties this playoffs, and his numerous chances? or how about maltby who eats up all the time off the clock dragging the puck around center ice then following a shallow dump into the other zone on the PK

all 3 are GREAT PKers.

GO WINGS!

Edited May 11, 2007 by Wingsor

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

(besides our own fans)shark fans rock...was a great series to discuss hockey with them, but i have a feeling the anaheim fans are not going to be the same. i agree there are a couple good duck fans here already..i think Wild Wing was one I was chatting with before too.

the san jose series was clean, with clean players on both sides, real hockey, was enjoyable. I'm not expecting the same class and lack of dirty plays with Pronger and Neider out there on this version of the Quackers.

you center out draper? youre going to ignore mr cleary and his two shorties this playoffs, and his numerous chances? or how about maltby who eats up all the time off the clock dragging the puck around center ice then following a shallow dump into the other zone on the PK

all 3 are GREAT PKers.

GO WINGS!

No kidding. Honestly? From all the teams I've watched and while some have pretty damn good 'shut down' lines. I haven't seen any better than the Cleary/Draper/Maltby line. Those guys are absolutely relentless.

Edited May 11, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Our Checking line > Aniheims

People say were a european based team. have you not heard of Big Bert , Dan Cleary , Selke trophy winner of 04 Kris draper , Kirk Maltby , Kyle Calder , and even my dawg Kyle Quincey.

I HATE that stereotype.

BTW , Steve Kouleas brought it up yesterday on the spin , I ******* hate that man so much. he's so canadian biased.

[Wingsor 2]

Our Checking line > Aniheims

People say were a european based team. have you not heard of Big Bert , Dan Cleary , Selke trophy winner of 04 Kris draper , Kirk Maltby , Kyle Calder , and even my dawg Kyle Quincey.

I HATE that stereotype.

BTW , Steve Kouleas brought it up yesterday on the spin , I ******* hate that man so much. he's so canadian biased.

whats the spin? unfortunately i live in windsor, one mile on the wrong side of the border...cant get alot of american feeds once the playoffs start.

Is the spin on ESPN? god i miss direct TV

[ducksfanforlife 0]

(besides our own fans)shark fans rock...was a great series to discuss hockey with them, but i have a feeling the anaheim fans are not going to be the same. i agree there are a couple good duck fans here already..i think Wild Wing was one I was chatting with before too.

the san jose series was clean, with clean players on both sides, real hockey, was enjoyable. I'm not expecting the same class and lack of dirty plays with Pronger and Neider out there on this version of the Quackers.

you center out draper? youre going to ignore mr cleary and his two shorties this playoffs, and his numerous chances? or how about maltby who eats up all the time off the clock dragging the puck around center ice then following a shallow dump into the other zone on the PK

all 3 are GREAT PKers.

GO WINGS!

Sorry I forgot to mention that all of them are god.....they are all good I just emphasized the best one out of all of them.

[Wingsor 2]

Sorry I forgot to mention that all of them are god.....they are all good I just emphasized the best one out of all of them.

god? lol dunno if theyre THAT good but heheh...oh ok, thought you meant he was the good one, not really the other two....my bad....

Edited May 11, 2007 by Wingsor

[ducksfanforlife 0]

I hope that was sarcasm. Id say they are pretty even. And what exactly has your shutdown line had to shutdown so far? A whole 2 guys per team?

Shutdown lines go up against the same line every time, so your guys have been shutting down max 3 guys per team.....that means your guys shutdown Iginla and Langkow....didn't really happen.

Then they shutdown Cheechoo and Thornton: yes they did do that VERY effectively

Ducks: Shutdown Marian Gaborik and Pavol Demitra a LITTLE better than you guys vs. Calgary

Rendered H and D Sedin useless.

Ok we'll call it even....but I still think that this series will find the shutdown edge towards the Ducks.

[Wingsor 2]

Shutdown lines go up against the same line every time, so your guys have been shutting down max 3 guys per team.....that means your guys shutdown Iginla and Langkow....didn't really happen.

Then they shutdown Cheechoo and Thornton: yes they did do that VERY effectively

Ducks: Shutdown Marian Gaborik and Pavol Demitra a LITTLE better than you guys vs. Calgary

Rendered H and D Sedin useless.

Ok we'll call it even....but I still think that this series will find the shutdown edge towards the Ducks.

ugh, those ugly twins on the nucks are useless to begin with...lol just kidding heh

um iginla was handled pretty well actually!

Edited May 11, 2007 by Wingsor