Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 So how may times did we have a 5 on 3 power play and we couldn't capitalize? We really need to do something about this Christ its pathetic. Our penalty kill has beed pretty good though that last Power Play goal they scored was a beauty, great set up by the Ducks. But 5 on 3!!! How many times did we not score on that? That is the thing that we have to work on the most I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Cross-ice lanes were there (looking for the slam-dunk on the far side), however brief, especially on the one to start the 3rd period. Guys just didn't make the pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 So how may times did we have a 5 on 3 power play and we couldn't capitalize? We really need to do something about this Christ its pathetic. Our penalty kill has beed pretty good though that last Power Play goal they scored was a beauty, great set up by the Ducks. But 5 on 3!!! How many times did we not score on that? That is the thing that we have to work on the most I think. Pathetic? Don't be such a drama queen. Gigeure stonewalled a lot of the 5-on-3 chances, especially the first one. Did it ever occur that it actually might not be the Wings beating themselves, but the other team or other goalie doing something right? I mean heaven forbid... The power play is fine and generated great chances, and no I am not changing my opinion on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Thats fine that you dissagree, and Gigurre was doing very well I will agree to that, but I do think Hasek was working way too hard on the PP all the way around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redwings-40-5 11 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Not having Schneider hurt us on the 5 on 3s, and the rest of the time we seemed to indecisive or to slow to make our move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Thats fine that you dissagree, and Gigurre was doing very well I will agree to that, but I do think Hasek was working way too hard on the PP all the way around. Both of Anaheim's PP goals came on two really good screens. Hasek's save percentage tonight is probably going to be low but he can't be faulted on any of them, especially the PP goals. Just one of those games where the Wings outchanced them but ended up on the wrong end of the board. Reversal of game 3 more/less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Usually the Wings are money on 5 on 3's... Huh... 13 and 40 had an off night, not a good time to mail it in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) Yes their PP goals came on great screens, but when I said working too hard on the PP I meant ours. Edited May 18, 2007 by Gordie Howe hat trick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puertoricanWingsfan 5 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 it really did piss me off not scoring on those power plays... but Giggy stood on his head that's for damn sure. I hate that bastard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stactum 4 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 The problem with today's 5-on-3s was "Lang the Passer"... I know it worked last time but tonight he was realy bad. I would love to see Dats or Z being passers in this kind of situations. I have to admin that he's still lazy and he sucs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19forPresident! 1 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) it really did piss me off not scoring on those power plays... but Giggy stood on his head that's for damn sure. I hate that bastard. Yeah special teams overall were off point tonight, let in our first 2 PP goals of the series, and failed to capitalize on two 5 on 3's Not to mention Filp's amazing Datsyuk-like move up the middle that went off the bar, the hockey gods were not smiling on us tonight. Oh well, water under the bridge. Its best of 3 now w/ home ice advantage, time to buckle down Edited May 18, 2007 by #19forPresident! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) So how may times did we have a 5 on 3 power play and we couldn't capitalize? We really need to do something about this Christ its pathetic. Our penalty kill has beed pretty good though that last Power Play goal they scored was a beauty, great set up by the Ducks. But 5 on 3!!! How many times did we not score on that? That is the thing that we have to work on the most I think. Go check your 5 on 3 PP stats for the league... we had maybe 2:30 of 5 on 3 tonight, and that we did not capitalize is not horridly uncommon. The team ain't perfect, but it's less imperfect than almost any other team out there. the hockey gods were not smiling on us tonight. Oh well, water under the bridge. Its best of 3 now w/ home ice advantage, time to buckle down I agree 100%. Edited May 18, 2007 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pavyaz19 1 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) Not having Schneider hurt us on the 5 on 3s, and the rest of the time we seemed to indecisive or to slow to make our move. i think you hit it on the head... i agree 100% that the decisions we were making weren't nearly quick enough. I really want to love Bertuzzi, but I feel like he especially makes the wrong decisions with the puck. maybe he's just not used to the system... as long as he keeps working hard, i'll continue to like him. and yeah, crymson. the odds are still against us on scoring during a 5-on-3 powerplay. I mean really, a good one-man advantage may be below 20%. We came damn close but couldn't score... we'll get em next time. edit: by the way, did you all really expect us to do better than splitting in Anaheim? I'm sure Babs expected to come home tied at 2. We came damn close to taking both games away from the 2nd best team on their own ice. Edited May 18, 2007 by pavyaz19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Yeah special teams overall were off point tonight, let in our first 2 PP goals of the series, and failed to capitalize on two 5 on 3's Not to mention Filp's amazing Datsyuk-like move up the middle that went off the bar, the hockey gods were not smiling on us tonight. Oh well, water under the bridge. Its best of 3 now w/ home ice advantage, time to buckle down we did score two power play goals tonight, if anyone missed that... Not having Schneider hurt us on the 5 on 3s, and the rest of the time we seemed to indecisive or to slow to make our move. schneider would prolly just miss the net anyways:P but we do miss schneider overall..i thought we didn't, until i saw our defensive effort tonight i think you hit it on the head... i agree 100% that the decisions we were making weren't nearly quick enough. I really want to love Bertuzzi, but I feel like he especially makes the wrong decisions with the puck. maybe he's just not used to the system... as long as he keeps working hard, i'll continue to like him. and yeah, crymson. the odds are still against us on scoring during a 5-on-3 powerplay. I mean really, a good one-man advantage may be below 20%. We came damn close but couldn't score... we'll get em next time. edit: by the way, did you all really expect us to do better than splitting in Anaheim? I'm sure Babs expected to come home tied at 2. We came damn close to taking both games away from the 2nd best team on their own ice. the first 2 man advantage was good, u have to give giguerre credit on that one..but the 2nd one, was horrendous...and yes, i would have just been happy for a split going into anaheim...but when u take game 1 and have a chance to take game 2....u cant pass that up, ESPEICALLY...without pronger, now they have momentum and the pressure's on us...makes me nervous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 the first 2 man advantage was good, u have to give giguerre credit on that one..but the 2nd one, was horrendous...and yes, i would have just been happy for a split going into anaheim...but when u take game 1 and have a chance to take game 2....u cant pass that up, ESPEICALLY...without pronger, now they have momentum and the pressure's on us...makes me nervous. Pressure is a subjective thing IMO. There is pressure on both teams to step up. However, if you want to look at it the good way... Round 1...Wings-Flames even after 4 games, Wings win game 5, then game 6. Round 2...Wings-Sharks even after 4 games, Wings win game 5, then game 6. So 2 for 2 in that scenario so far. Who knows what the hell will happen on Sunday but with Hasek almost always stepping up after a game where he might have played better (at least with the Wings so far) and with Lang-Cleary-Bertuzzi being very good last night, if they can keep it going and Datsyuk-Zetterberg can continue being successful at home, don't see why they can't make it 3 for 3 this playoffs in this scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 The problem with today's 5-on-3s was "Lang the Passer"... I know it worked last time but tonight he was realy bad. I would love to see Dats or Z being passers in this kind of situations. I have to admin that he's still lazy and he sucs! I believe Lang was the reason for our lack of production 5 on 3.He gave it away consistently when trying to pass. Why Lids kept feeding his side is a mystery,but the entire unit was very stagnant. There wasn't any movement to confuse the defenders,which I think contributed to Lang's giveaways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henkka 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 I think at 5 on 3 we should put two guys in front of the instead of just Homer there. Three guys triangle to move the puck and get shots and two guys in front to get the rebounds. Just imagine Homer and Bert same time in front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dicksmack 33 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 I think at 5 on 3 we should put two guys in front of the instead of just Homer there. Three guys triangle to move the puck and get shots and two guys in front to get the rebounds. Just imagine Homer and Bert same time in front. It might be hard to get a puck through all of that . On the 1st 5 on 3, we relied too heavily on one-timers... Giguere has the ability to anticipate one-timers from far out near the point; he ends up square to shooter every time. When we stick with passing plays, like the back door pass play, the 'one-timer' is a 3 foot tap in and he's got no chance to get set for that. On the 2nd 5 on 3, Lang faked the back door pass to Pavel and shot a nice wrister headed into the net but it hit the shaft of Jiggy's stick. It was a good play but them's the breaks... I hope we stick to passing plays rather than one-timers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FUUFNF 1 Report post Posted May 18, 2007 Pathetic? Don't be such a drama queen. Gigeure stonewalled a lot of the 5-on-3 chances, especially the first one. Did it ever occur that it actually might not be the Wings beating themselves, but the other team or other goalie doing something right? I mean heaven forbid... The power play is fine and generated great chances, and no I am not changing my opinion on it. you gotta admit that 1 sog with 1:38 of 5-on-3 with no pronger is at least a little pathetic. we certainly looked too passive on that 2nd 5-on-3 and hopefully that won't be the turning point of the series. talk about pissing away a golden opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
