LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 ...check out the list of past winners on this site. Look at the list they already have the 2006-07 winner listed... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Norris_Memorial_Trophy ...Hmmmmmmm..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 No shocker if its true! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Wiki= anyones opinion. Don't give this a grain of salt. Odds are against Lidstrom now, I hope he gets it but I don't expect it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Wiki= anyones opinion. Don't give this a grain of salt. Odds are against Lidstrom now, I hope he gets it but I don't expect it. why would the odds be against lidstrom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Wiki= anyones opinion. Don't give this a grain of salt. Odds are against Lidstrom now, I hope he gets it but I don't expect it. What would possess you to think that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 ...I just find it odd that they would list anyone there... ...would be great! Borque who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 What would possess you to think that? My guess is the reasoning for him saying that is beacause of the Ducks winning the cup, and Neidermayer winning the Consmythe that he now is the "best defensemen". I still hope Lidstrom receives it. He totally deserves it! As for wikipedia, that site is created by average people, and in some cases wrong. I wouldn't base the results off that, but its nice to know that who ever created that page put Lidstrom! Hopefully there right! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) My guess is the reasoning for him saying that is beacause of the Ducks winning the cup, and Neidermayer winning the Consmythe that he now is the "best defensemen". I still hope Lidstrom receives it. He totally deserves it! As for wikipedia, that site is created by average people, and in some cases wrong. I wouldn't base the results off that, but its nice to know that who ever created that page put Lidstrom! Hopefully there right! The voting is done before the playoffs start, and is solely based on the regular season. Everything that happened in the last two months holds no bearing on the outcome of that award. IMO Lidstrom was better this postseason than Niedermayer. Edited June 12, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey13Playa 240 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 The voting is done before the playoffs start, and is solely based on the regular season. Everything that happened in the last two months holds no bearing on the outcome of that award. Oh I did not tknow that, and being a obsessed fan, I should of known! In that case, I don't have an awnser for that question, because Lidstrom was most deffinetaly the best in the regular season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 My guess is the reasoning for him saying that is beacause of the Ducks winning the cup, and Neidermayer winning the Consmythe that he now is the "best defensemen". ...but what he doesn't understand then, if that is what he thinks, is that the award voting is done before the playoffs. The results have been in for a while, and whoever wins the Cup has no bearing on whover wins the Norris (or any other.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) nm Edited June 12, 2007 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 ...If you click on all the other MAJOR awards, Selke, Hart, Adams, Vezina they don't list anyone for 06-07. Maybe it is just a typo? ...on another note, the Mark Messier Leadership award is new this year, and they List our own Chris Chelios as the first ever winner, congrats Chelios! He is a great leader... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henkka 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 Niedermayer sucked without Pronger at the regular season. Lidström shined without any other Norris caliber assistant. The Norris will go to Lids for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 As for wikipedia, that site is created by average people, and in some cases wrong. I wouldn't base the results off that, but its nice to know that who ever created that page put Lidstrom! Hopefully there right! Yup many unis won't let you site it as a reference anymore because just about anybody can change it and it's only mostly acurate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullocks Report post Posted June 12, 2007 it definitely wouldn't be leaked on wikipedia if it was leaked Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HUETforLIFE 0 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) i added lidstrom for '06-'07 a few days ago. its just an educated guess, i don't have any inside info. i'm surprised it hasn't been changed back yet. edit: oops. this is HomeNugget. i share this computer with my fiance`. Edited June 12, 2007 by HUETforLIFE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,132 Report post Posted June 12, 2007 ...and just like that, it's gone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) Yup many unis won't let you site it as a reference anymore because just about anybody can change it and it's only mostly acurate exactly. Take any wiki entry with a large helping of salt. And when I first read "uni's," I thought you were saying uniforms. It didn't make a whole lotta sense to me. ...and just like that, it's gone... someone must've come through and cleaned up the entry... Wikipedia sounds like a constant war between those trying to put forth an agenda or those simply screwing around, and those who want it to be a legit source of info. Oh well. It'll back up there soon anyway. Edited June 13, 2007 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 13, 2007 The voting is done before the playoffs start, and is solely based on the regular season. Everything that happened in the last two months holds no bearing on the outcome of that award. IMO Lidstrom was better this postseason than Niedermayer. No s***. Is 1 PPG not good enough for some people? Why do people so often downplay the accomplishments of our players while utterly fearing the accomplishments of players on other teams? Pssshh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BringHomeTheCup! 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Cheli wasn't the first Messier Leadership Award winner, and Lidstrom or anyone for that matter, hasn't won this years Norris. Wiki is what's called open forum. Anyone can add to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Cheli wasn't the first Messier Leadership Award winner, and Lidstrom or anyone for that matter, hasn't won this years Norris. Wiki is what's called open forum. Anyone can add to it. You are correct that Lidstrom has yet to win this year's Norris. You are incorrect in saying Chelios is not the first recipient of the season-end Messier award. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Niedermayer sucked without Pronger at the regular season. Lidström shined without any other Norris caliber assistant. The Norris will go to Lids for sure. Unfortunately, you and i are not voters. While what you say is true, I just have a bad feeling it's Nieds year and they will give it to him. Party because they're just tired of giving it to Nick, partly because of the fascination with the Ducks (even before the playoffs). They'll justify it with saying they were voting for the intangibles - what he means to his team, blah blah blah. Anyhow I hope I'm wrong. We all know who the best defenseman was... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Motown 0 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 ya i sure hope Lidstrom wins this year. he did alot more than the other 2 ever did this year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Yeah, Wikipedia doesn't mean anything. I just changed the 06-07 winner to Robert Lang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted June 13, 2007 Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone, anywhere around the world can edit, so you know you're getting the absolute best information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
