Opie 308 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Ray Sheppherd I think if you look up slow in Webster's dictionary his pic is there!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Well, we could dig up Ray Sheppherd and Larry Murphy for a "fantasy snail line", too, but he did say "ever to take the ice". Either Sheppherd or Parker would have to play defense along with Murphy. Think about it: Lang-Yashin-Parker Sheppherd-Murphy Wow. You could paint a house faster then guys could skate. There has got to be some even slower ones out there. I'll take a look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 here you go all former wings at some point that would make the slowest combo on the ice, I need another D-man Luc - Igor - Lang Murphy - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 here you go all former wings at some point that would make the slowest combo on the ice, I need another D-man Luc - Igor - Lang Murphy - Slide Maxim Kuznetsov in there for the final defense spot. He was a pylon out there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 (edited) Slide Maxim Kuznetsov in there for the final defense spot. He was a pylon out there! Holy Shat that is perfect KP I totally forgot about that slow bastard. Here it is boys and girls!! Thanks to the many lgw-ers that helped put this list together!! The all time slowest group on the ice for the red wings Luc - Igor- Lang Murphy - Kuznetsov Besides Kuznetsov I would however take anyone of them in their prime!!!! Edit- Slegr wasn't greased lightning either!!! Edited June 20, 2007 by Opie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Filpulla has superior wheels, has a better all around game, and is just the better player, plain and simple. Bingo. I like Hudler but you can tell that Flip is already better than him and has a greater potential curve than Huds. Yzerman has said it, along with others in the organization, that Flip could be just as good as Zetterberg. Either Sheppherd or Parker would have to play defense along with Murphy. Think about it: Lang-Yashin-Parker Sheppherd-Murphy Wow. You could paint a house faster then guys could skate. There has got to be some even slower ones out there. I'll take a look. Jason Allison anyone? Or what about Dave Andreychuk who's nickname was 'wood'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Jason Allison anyone? Or what about Dave Andreychuk who's nickname was 'wood'. Damn it! I forgot about them. Allison would be a perfect fit on that line. Maybe knock off Yashin, and put in Allison, and it get's even slower. I didn't even think that was possible. Andreychuck gets an honerable mention. In fact, I might even replace Murphy for him. The slower the better in this case. I don't think anyone matches the slowness of Scott Parker though. I know, he's a fighter/enforcer, but he really is brutal the way he skates. He's one of the guys that I would have figured would go extinct in the new NHL, but some teams have surprisingly held on to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Damn it! I forgot about them. Allison would be a perfect fit on that line. Maybe knock off Yashin, and put in Allison, and it get's even slower. I didn't even think that was possible. Andreychuck gets an honerable mention. In fact, I might even replace Murphy for him. The slower the better in this case. I don't think anyone matches the slowness of Scott Parker though. I know, he's a fighter/enforcer, but he really is brutal the way he skates. He's one of the guys that I would have figured would go extinct in the new NHL, but some teams have surprisingly held on to him. Im not surprised the avs kept him , There into big , useless , slow players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Im not surprised the avs kept him , There into big , useless , slow players. Like Jose Theodore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Like Jose Theodore? Maybe there into small and useless players too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 Maybe there into small and useless players too I was just mostly looking into the word useless, which is exactly what Theodore is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted June 20, 2007 The package Flip brings to the table is more valuable to this team, simple as that. Not to slight Hudler, but we have enough small forwards who "can do crazy things with the puck." I believe he's destined for big things at the NHL level -- just not in Motown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 I think Huds will be the better player. Flip for all of his finesse and awesomeness seems to do less with his ice time than Hudler does. He needs to overcome the size issue, and he'll be a better player. He was easier to take off the puck, but i think that a lot of the times in the playoffs that he was taken down it was clearly a penalty that should have been called, and we just don't get them. Flip played on the top line for part of the year, and I still thought Huds was better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 I think Huds will be the better player. Flip for all of his finesse and awesomeness seems to do less with his ice time than Hudler does. He needs to overcome the size issue, and he'll be a better player. Flip played on the top line for part of the year, and I still thought Huds was better. Me too. Hudler, seriously, is the more talented out of the two. His skill with the puck is what sets them apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 Me too. Hudler, seriously, is the more talented out of the two. His skill with the puck is what sets them apart. I agree. Draper is an awesome two-way player, and that's great, but he still catches heat here for not putting the puck in the net. I see Fil being a better goal scorer than Drapes, but not by much. Goals make people happy- Huds makes me happy lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 Me too. Hudler, seriously, is the more talented out of the two. His skill with the puck is what sets them apart. Filppula is and will be the better one. Why? 'Cause Babs is a professional NHL coach who has a great desire to win and he knows what he's doing. I think we should all stop thinking we know more than him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 'Cause Babs is a professional NHL coach who has a great desire to win and he knows what he's doing. I think we should all stop thinking we know more than him. Two words: Robert Lang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 Two words: Robert Lang. Umm, what? Babcock gave Lang much less ice time then about half of the 3rd/4th line players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) Two words: Robert Lang. Maybe he didn't have the balls to bench $3.8m ? Edited June 21, 2007 by FinRedWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 Me too. Hudler, seriously, is the more talented out of the two. His skill with the puck is what sets them apart. I think Flip often looks flashier than Huds which is why most people give him the edge. But, I've always thought Datsyuk had the flash edge over Z and I think Z will end up being the better player when all is said and done. Well, I think Z is better now, but that's just me. Huds has that x-factor that makes him amazing...and he will be a very clutch player. While everyone is standing around scratching their heads...he is the guy who's scoring the goals. Plain and simple. He was sat a ton in the playoffs, but when he actually had a bit of ice time near the end of the season he was doing really well with it. I was sad he didn't get more of a chance in the playoffs, because I think he could have made a difference in the games he didn't play. He did make a difference in the games he did play...and even though he was outmuscled a lot in the Shark series (so many uncalled penalties) you could feel his presense out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) I think Flip often looks flashier than Huds which is why most people give him the edge. But, I've always thought Datsyuk had the flash edge over Z and I think Z will end up being the better player when all is said and done. Well, I think Z is better now, but that's just me. Huds has that x-factor that makes him amazing...and he will be a very clutch player. While everyone is standing around scratching their heads...he is the guy who's scoring the goals. Plain and simple. He was sat a ton in the playoffs, but when he actually had a bit of ice time near the end of the season he was doing really well with it. I was sad he didn't get more of a chance in the playoffs, because I think he could have made a difference in the games he didn't play. He did make a difference in the games he did play...and even though he was outmuscled a lot in the Shark series (so many uncalled penalties) you could feel his presense out there. He was only getting extra ice time because Bertuzzi , Zetterberg and Cleary were injured. I dont see Hudler as most do , I see him as a 2nd line goal scorer. This amazing abilities with the puck? I jsut dont see it. He'd do well in the east were small guys tend to do better ( St Louis , Gionta etc.). Filpula had a regular spot on the 4th line all season. And he did his best with his minutes , while Hudler got less he did good with his minutes too. There alot alike , but very different. Hudler will not be a great 2-way player , he wont win any selkes , But he for sure will score 30 goals with some team , it just wont be here. If Lewis was our coach , he would , but not Babcock. Filpula will be a good 2nd line center that wont score as many goals as Hudler but for sure will have as many points or more. I think Filpula is better , but I think Hudler will be a great player too , Its a shame , if he was 2 inches taller , Babs would actaully play him. Edited June 21, 2007 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) He was only getting extra ice time because Bertuzzi , Zetterberg and Cleary were injured. I dont see Hudler as most do , I see him as a 2nd line goal scorer. This amazing abilities with the puck? I jsut dont see it. He'd do well in the east were small guys tend to do better ( St Louis , Gionta etc.). I think Filpula is better , but I think Hudler will be a great player too , Its a shame , if he was 2 inches taller , Babs would actaully play him. It's true, he would. Hell, I'd play him more in the playoffs if he were a little taller. But I wasn't saying he has amazing abilities with the puck: he's got better handling skills than Filppula, that's all. I haven't watched either closely enough to be an expert on them, but Flip doesn't have the same hands or puck awareness. Edited June 21, 2007 by Flip-check Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) Damn it! I forgot about them. Allison would be a perfect fit on that line. Maybe knock off Yashin, and put in Allison, and it get's even slower. I didn't even think that was possible. Andreychuck gets an honerable mention. In fact, I might even replace Murphy for him. The slower the better in this case. I don't think anyone matches the slowness of Scott Parker though. I know, he's a fighter/enforcer, but he really is brutal the way he skates. He's one of the guys that I would have figured would go extinct in the new NHL, but some teams have surprisingly held on to him. I might be completely off about this, but I could have sworn that Dave Andreychuk didn't know how to skate backwards until he was in junior, or maybe even the NHL. I'll have to do some digging on that. EDIT: Found a link 'confirming' this: http://sportsguynorth.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_archive.html The Winds of Dave The Dave's I Know The Tampa Bay Lightning have placed captain Dave Andreychuk on waivers, likely bringing an end to a long and somewhat baffling career. It's not that his numbers over the years weren't impressive. What impresses me is that he managed to have a sucessful, 23-year NHL career without ever bothering to learn how to skate backwards. Literally. I remember one day earlier this season when I pointed out this fact to a friend of mine who was watching a Lightning game with me. The person didn't entirely believe me, but sure enough during that game there was a turnover at the blue line and big Dave was the only man back. The guy started skating in and Dave stood there like a deer in the headlights. Waited for him to get to him, then turned and skated with him. Needless to say, the guy skated around him and scored. And that is what I remember out of Dave's 1,639 game, 640 goal, 1,338 point career. I hope that something gets mentioned about this in his Hall of Fame induction ceremony a few years from now. But an era has officially come to an end. RIP the days of NHLers without the complete package making a major impact on the game like Dave did. It was a good run while it lasted... so long as it wasn't going backwards. Edited June 21, 2007 by Hank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DetroitIan Report post Posted June 21, 2007 I might be completely off about this, but I could have sworn that Dave Andreychuk didn't know how to skate backwards until he was in junior, or maybe even the NHL. I'll have to do some digging on that. EDIT: Found a link 'confirming' this: http://sportsguynorth.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_archive.html Wow, now I dont feel so bad. I played hockey for 3 years, yet to this day, I can only sorta skate backwards. My puck/stick handling ability has always been great, its my balance that erks me. But wow, that is quite amazing to play at the highest level without knowing how to skate backwards. Thats nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) lil' lad huddles has mad skillz Arrr, i lo'e t' skate backwards... I guess that is why when I played Me was a good two way offenseman. Pk was my fa'e. Aye. Edited June 21, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
