Viperar 16 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 If I were Hasek, I'd just laugh at the thought of putting out a Raycroft rumor as pressure... that's not really pressure. We've all been on Kenny's ass the past couple days, but I seriously don't think he's lost it--Yet. agreed. Raycroft isnt exactly hasek-pressure material. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 If I were Hasek, I'd just laugh at the thought of putting out a Raycroft rumor as pressure... that's not really pressure. We've all been on Kenny's ass the past couple days, but I seriously don't think he's lost it--Yet. Really? Why would you? Holland initially signed Hasek with the intention of him splitting games with Osgood. Osgood is no starter, but he can do well to split games. Raycroft is still young, but also capable enough to split games. Also, keep in mind that it would only be for 2 years, and next year, with Osgood gone, wed still have the chance to sign yet a different starting goalie. Bottom line, Detroit is showing that they have options. If the difference in contract demands is 250,000, this is a good tactic to get Hasek to slightly lower his demands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 nah i understand where you are coming from, but if raycroft is really as TERRIBLE as we make him out to be, why would kenny even be interested. I would think if a simple fan forum can see hes not so good, so would kenny. On the flip side, what does kenny see with raycroft that would benefit the wings. Probably some intangible we dont detect. The only possible intangible I can think of is Raycroft won the Calder Trophy during the 2003-2004 season. Keep in mind there wasn't a very good rookie class that season. I can't remember who even challeneged him for it. I think Alex Semin was the only one to come close, and he didn't even play a full season that year. I've began to lost faith in Holland for his lack of replacing the lost grit over the years. But since his other signings were good, I kind of pushed it aside. But if Holland had that bad of judgement to sign Raycroft... ugh, I'm at a lose for words to even describe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Well, whoever started this rumor got exactly what he wanted - a ton of buzz about it. Theres is no legit source from which this is coming, there is no quote from Holland saying he is interested in Raycroft, nor that he is even interested in exploring his options in net. There is nothing coming from Hasek. Nothing from Devellano. Nothing even from Kulfan, St. James, Cotsonika, etc saying that this is a legit rumor, yet everyone is already calling for Hollands head as if hes already signed Raycroft to an 8 year extension. Edited July 4, 2007 by YoungGuns1340 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Well, whoever started this rumor got exactly what he wanted - a ton of buzz about it. Theres is no legit source from which this is coming, there is no quote from Holland saying he is interested in Raycroft, nor that he is even interested in exploring his options in net. There is nothing coming from Hasek. Nothing from Devellano. Nothing even from Kulfan, St. James, Cotsonika, etc saying that this is a legit rumor, yet everyone is already calling for Hollands head as if hes already signed Raycroft to an 8 year extension. 8 years sounds solid and tasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 It's THE TORONTO STAR people. That's the source of this rumor. Not founded on anything. Kenny hasn't done anything and will not do anything to hurt this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spydrwebb 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 It's THE TORONTO STAR people. That's the source of this rumor. Not founded on anything. Kenny hasn't done anything and will not do anything to hurt this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 we won't be signing raycroft, he is under contract we'd have to trade for him......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBR 12 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Well, whoever started this rumor got exactly what he wanted - a ton of buzz about it. Theres is no legit source from which this is coming, there is no quote from Holland saying he is interested in Raycroft, nor that he is even interested in exploring his options in net. There is nothing coming from Hasek. Nothing from Devellano. Nothing even from Kulfan, St. James, Cotsonika, etc saying that this is a legit rumor, yet everyone is already calling for Hollands head as if hes already signed Raycroft to an 8 year extension. Unfortunately, there is some truth, look at this: Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Please no! My bro is a leaf fan and with all the speculation him coming here, he is already giving it to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spydrwebb 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Unfortunately, there is some truth, look at this: Link that link says the same as the ones before it, nothing. it's alleged interest, nothing more... at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Unfortunately, there is some truth, look at this: Link You call that truth? The majority of the article is coming out of Toronto, and the only part that alludes to the Wings + Raycroft is the title, which is smart journalism considering they didnt come out and say the Wings were interested in Raycroft, they only posed the question, and it automatically stirs up talk (see: this thread), and the end part which says "The Red Wings are said to be interested in Raycroft." Thats great. If the Toronto Star are the ones that made up this rumor, then somebody did "say" the Wings are interested. But just because somebody said that, doesnt mean its even one bit true. I could start up my own Red Wings website and say the Wings are "interested" in trading for Sergeei Fedorov. Would that make it true? No. But it would make the statement "Wings are said to be interested in Sergei Fedorov" true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 8 years sounds solid and tasty LET'S HIRE THIS GUY AS OUR GM ^^^^^^^^^^^ yashin for 20 years $400mill get it done Vipe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 LET'S HIRE THIS GUY AS OUR GM ^^^^^^^^^^^ yashin for 20 years $400mill get it done Vipe i actually just turned down an offer from the pens malkin and crosby for sammy. I just <33333 sammy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 I would tell Detroit to go for it if I were Hasek, if they think Raycroft is a better option in net. I suspect Dom would have gone home this summer, except the Wings begged him to stay one more year. It's up to the Red Wings whether they want to offer Dom fair compensation for his services. If not, he ought to hang it up and let them figure out if they can get to round three with someone else. Hasek is a bargain at $2.5M, and if Kenny can't commit that, then I don't see any reason why Dom should come back and give it up for the team again. Last year was ludicrous, in terms of salary, but Dom made his point. Now, it's in the Wings' court. I still think Dom's waiting to see what funds Kenny has left before committing, so that he doesn't cause a financial burden to the Wings. But if Raycroft seems so much better, I think Kenny should pull the trigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 SWEET! Bring him on to the Wings. Ozzie will be starter in no time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNut199 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 LET'S HIRE THIS GUY AS OUR GM ^^^^^^^^^^^ yashin for 20 years $400mill get it done Vipe Yeah.... he was kidding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viperar 16 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Yeah.... he was kidding. haha its cool dude, flip was too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNut199 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 haha its cool dude, flip was too It took me a click of the refresh button to realize that haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 SWEET! Bring him on to the Wings. Ozzie will be starter in no time. that would work for me. Ozzie can shoulder that load of blame and get no credit, instead fo Dom. Losing Dom would free up some money so they can give Ozzie a raise, too. Cool! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Ozzie can shoulder that load of blame and get no credit, instead fo Dom. Nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spydrwebb 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 ozzie is no pawn. he's capable of what we need from him. dom signs, none of this will even matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) that would work for me. Ozzie can shoulder that load of blame and get no credit, instead fo Dom. Losing Dom would free up some money so they can give Ozzie a raise, too. Cool! Whoa whoa whoa Do nah be bitter 'cause yer scallywag be bein' a cur 'n nah signin'... Do nah take it out on Ozzie at least. Besides I thought Hasek signin' was a do nah worry... do nah tell me yer gettin' scared now. I thought this was his way o' bein' loyal t' th' wings... waitin' t' sign. Edited July 4, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 Hasek will return. Kenny already said a deal will be done in the end of the week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip-check 6 Report post Posted July 4, 2007 It took me a click of the refresh button to realize that haha hahahaha Bottom line, Detroit is showing that they have options. If the difference in contract demands is 250,000, this is a good tactic to get Hasek to slightly lower his demands. If they put out the "Rayzer" rumor, yeah but who doesn't know that already? We already know we'll probably start Ozzie if Dom doesn't get inked and pick up a back-up, everyone around the nhl knows that, so does Dom. And I know what you mean, I think if the difference is 250k though... we'd have him signed. I don't know if Hasek is asking for 3+ to 4 or what--but you know, at this point in the FA season it doesn't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
