Zion 93 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 How many of you are worried about our 2nd line for next season? Is it time to let the kids play, or is it time to aggressively get that "Top 6 forward" that Holland and Dellevano have been referring to and piece something else together? I thought Flip showed flashes of brilliance in the playoffs, and many of you here were complaining about Huds not getting any playoff ice time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 How many of you are worried about our 2nd line for next season? Is it time to let the kids play, or is it time to aggressively get that "Top 6 forward" that Holland and Dellevano have been referring to and piece something else together? I thought Flip showed flashes of brilliance in the playoffs, and many of you here were complaining about Huds not getting any playoff ice time. Seeing as Zetterberg will be centering our 2nd line, I'm not worried at all. Kenny Holland and Ken Daniels have both been on XM Home Ice 204 the last week and both have said that Zetts and Dats will be playing centre for the majority of the season. I think Hudler, Flip and even Grigs will round out the wingers on the top 2 lines. We'll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) i say give Jiri and Val a shot. Hudler - Z - Filppula EDIT: post above Edited July 16, 2007 by kylee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 I'm not worried at all. It is time to let the kids play unless Kenny can pull off a monster trade,remaining UFA's pretty much suck or they aren't 2nd line players. i say give Jiri and Val a shot. Hudler - Z - Filppula EDIT: post above Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 I'm not worried at all. It is time to let the kids play unless Kenny can pull off a monster trade,remaining UFA's pretty much suck or they aren't 2nd line players. Agreed. I would like to have a healthy Forsberg center our 2nd line but yeah that will NEVER happen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 Top line? This would solely depend on what Grigs does, but I would suspect this is what our top 2 lines would look like: Homer-Zetts-Sammy Filpulla-Dats-Grigs Homer, Sammy, Flip, Grigs and Hudler will probably be our top 5 wingers. But expect Babcock to juggle in Franzen and Cleary in there as well from time to time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) with our current roster. id roll these lines Cleary(06-07 his breakout season?) - Dats - Homer Hudler - Z - Val Grigs?? - draper - sammy Maltby - Franzen - Drake Edited July 16, 2007 by kylee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 I think that a top 6 forward will be signed or traded for before the season starts. I don't know who, or have any inside info this is just my opinion. If not then I would like to see these lines Sammy - Z - Homer Hudler - Dats - Flip (I highly doubt Babs will give Huds that kind of minutes though) Cleary - Franzen - Drake (talk about an energy line) Maltby - Draper - Grigs (let grigs start the season with the vets, checking and working hard, then if he shows the stuff to be a top 6 guy, move him up and Sammy down) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spydrwebb 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 nope, no worries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 Franzen will be on the top 2 lines. Filpulla - Datsyuk - Homer Franzen - Zetterberg - Hudler Samuelson - Cleary - Grigorenko Maltby - Draper - Drake Kopecky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) Cleary-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Franzen-Zetterberg-Hudler Sammy-Filpula-Grigerenko Maltby-Draper-Drake Not totally bad , Zetterberg and Datsyuk should be together. Nither will have Crosby like seasons unless there with each other. Edited July 16, 2007 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 Cleary-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Franzen-Datsyuk-Filpula Sammy-Hudler-Grigerenko Maltby-Draper-Drake Not totally bad , Zetterberg and Datsyuk should be together. Nither will have Crosby like seasons unless there with each other. Not too bad. I just think if Hudler is going to stick with this team he needs top six minutes. Think about it. He's all offence. Put him on the 2nd line for his shot, let Zetterberg cover his ass, send Franzen in to the corners to get the puck, and then to the net for rebounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 Not too bad. I just think if Hudler is going to stick with this team he needs top six minutes. Think about it. He's all offence. Put him on the 2nd line for his shot, let Zetterberg cover his ass, send Franzen in to the corners to get the puck, and then to the net for rebounds. Thats true , if were gonna get Hudler scoring his infamous 30 goals this season , its gotta be with Hank centering him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 I don't get why everyone has Datsyuk and Zetterberg broken up. Remember how awful they both were at the start of the season last year when not playing together? Personally I think the 2nd line sucks. Unless Hudler becomes the next Cliff Ronning (a very successful small forward in the NHL for those who don't know), he isn't going to make it in this league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 I don't get why everyone has Datsyuk and Zetterberg broken up. Remember how awful they both were at the start of the season last year when not playing together? Remember how good they looked the few games at the end of the playoffs split up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 I want them split up mainly because this team doesn't have the talent to cover 4 lines with them together. The wings would have 1 powerful line and 3 checking/4th lines. If Babs splits them up the wings then have 2 very solid lines and two checking/fourth lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 i say give Jiri and Val a shot. Hudler - Z - Filppula EDIT: post above I'd rather stick Filppula with Datsyuk given the chemistry those two seem to have. Grigs might play well with Dats too if they've played together in the past (not sure they have, given the age gap). So: Cleary - Z - Holmer Filp - Dats - Grigs Although it might be nice to spread the grit out between the top two lines, having Cleary and Holmer with Z is gritastic. Remember how good they looked the few games at the end of the playoffs split up? Remember how good they looked together in the thrid period of game six versus the Ducks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 Unless Hudler becomes the next Cliff Ronning (a very successful small forward in the NHL for those who don't know), he isn't going to make it in this league. Yeah, just look at the crap we see playing with heights of 5' 10 or smaller: Daniel Briere Chris Drury Martin Straka Sean Avery Slava Kozlov Marc Savard Derek Roy Ray Whitney Patrick Kane Pierre-Marc Bouchard Saku Koivu Steve Sullivan Brian Gionta Mike Comrie Kimmo Timonen Mark Recchi Paul Kariya Martin St. Louis Jason Blake *all heights from tsn.ca Yeah it's harder when you're little, but there are some fine players with small statures. It usually takes them a bit longer to break out, but it's not impossible. Especially when you consider how Huds played with the ice time he had last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 Remember how good they looked the few games at the end of the playoffs split up? This aint the playoffs though, there better together then apart. Who needs a 2nd line when your top line is Z-D-H , they all can score 30+ goals if there healthy and alot of points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 Yeah, just look at the crap we see playing with heights of 5' 10 or smaller: Daniel Briere Chris Drury Martin Straka Sean Avery Slava Kozlov Marc Savard Derek Roy Ray Whitney Patrick Kane Pierre-Marc Bouchard Saku Koivu Steve Sullivan Brian Gionta Mike Comrie Kimmo Timonen Mark Recchi Paul Kariya Martin St. Louis Jason Blake *all heights from tsn.ca Yeah it's harder when you're little, but there are some fine players with small statures. It usually takes them a bit longer to break out, but it's not impossible. Especially when you consider how Huds played with the ice time he had last season. I seriously hate it when people do this. Yes, let's compare Hudler to a list which features current all-star players, and potential HOF's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 I seriously hate it when people do this. Yes, let's compare Hudler to a list which features current all-star players, and potential HOF's. Add in that all of those players are 10x the player Hudler is , which makes the arguement foolish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 Add in that all of those players are 10x the player Hudler is , which makes the arguement foolish. yeah cuz briere was really impressing everyone just a few years ago... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 yeah cuz briere was really impressing everyone just a few years ago... What does that have to do with anything? He's still much better then Hudler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted July 16, 2007 What does that have to do with anything? He's still much better then Hudler. how about the fact that some people don't come into their own until late...ur sig of cleary should show that you understand this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites