Kiprusoff in 08

[Echolalia 2,961]

Apparently he isn't happy with however much Calgary offered him after this season ends.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/post/Ki...r?urn=nhl,39703

But the interesting aspect is that he is interested in testing the market; however I'll take that for what its worth (Its just a rumor), although I really can't see him staying in Calgary when they seem to get slightly worse each year.

A ton of the people commenting at that site really think/hope/dread he'll end up in Detroit.

[Curban915 0]

One could only hope that would be so great to have kipper what he would do we good d-men infront of him.

[Cicada 4]

it's all dependent on Howard...

if he doesn't make it we'll be signing another UFA goalie...urgh..

why we can't develop goaltenders i don't know

[Kp-Wings 3]

On a choice scale... who would you all rather have? A proven Vezina winner in Kiprusoff or an unproven Howard?

I think I take Kiprusoff. Not saying he'll automatically come here, but if the option is available it should be looked it. I don't want Kiprusoff passed by for an unproven rookie.

[OsGOD 3]

We covet more what is not ours... grass is always greener mentality!

[Opie 308]

"Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for."

“Nothing is enough for the man to whom enough is too little.”

Quoted from Epicurus! A Greek Philosopher!

Edited July 27, 2007 by Opie

[tony 3]

One could only hope that would be so great to have kipper what he would do we good d-men infront of him.

could end up being the same as cujo he plays amazing with no D but when u average 20 shots a game they get bored and struggle

Edited July 27, 2007 by tony

[Booster313 138]

I would take Kipper in a heart beat, the question is will we be able to afford him with Lids and Z becoming free agents soon as well?

[norrisnick 1]

We covet more what is not ours... grass is always greener mentality!

Granted there's a ton of coveting abound on this website, but you can't deny that Kipper is "greener" than what we'll have next season. Unless Jimmy takes 2-3 BIG steps as opposed to one solid one in his development.

He'll be too expensive, but that's a different problem than assuming he's greener when he isn't. Because he is.

[HuntsVegas Baby 0]

God no! How many times does this guy have to be exposed before anyone realizes he is Nabokov's clone!

[Wings_Fan_In_Exile 3]

Granted there's a ton of coveting abound on this website, but you can't deny that Kipper is "greener" than what we'll have next season. Unless Jimmy takes 2-3 BIG steps as opposed to one solid one in his development.

He'll be too expensive, but that's a different problem than assuming he's greener when he isn't. Because he is.

He's definately better than what we'll have to work with. And yes, some other team will be more than willing to pay more than Detroit would be able to.

That being said it would be very foolish of Calgary to let him go. I don't see them as a playoff team without Kiprusoff.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

it's all dependent on Howard...

if he doesn't make it we'll be signing another UFA goalie...urgh..

why we can't develop goaltenders i don't know

What?? Its not dependent on Howard at all. Howard will be lucky if hes backup next year, let alone seeing big minutes.

On the contrary. Its all dependent on LIDSTROM . Should Lidstrom decide to call it quits next year, then Detroit will be very interested in Kipper. Kipper would be a better replacement for the security that Lidstrom provides than any other UFA defenseman available.

And before people start freaking out about Detroit not being able to sign Zetterberg if they have Kipper, Rafalski, and Datsyuk, just remember that we have a full team as it is with a good 4M left to spare. Detroit could just as soon have Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, and Rafalski all signed to 6M+ contracts THIS year and still have a full roster. And judging from the fact that the Canadian dollar continues to rise, according to Spector, well probably see at least a 1-2M raise on the salary cap next year, barring the fallouts of half the league.

[OsGOD 3]

Granted there's a ton of coveting abound on this website, but you can't deny that Kipper is "greener" than what we'll have next season. Unless Jimmy takes 2-3 BIG steps as opposed to one solid one in his development.

He'll be too expensive, but that's a different problem than assuming he's greener when he isn't. Because he is.

As a poster above stated... i see a another whole Cujo situation happen... We overpay (because that will be the ONLY way we get him is via price war with other teams) and he will play spectacular, but we will still fall becuase getting another Elite goaltender does not address what is missing from our team in the post season. We get different goalies every season and the outcome is still the same... why would getting yet another elite be any different when the underlying issues of playoff failures are just being swept under the rug each offseason?

[Dabura 12,232]

Likening acquiring Kipper to the "Cujo situation" is pretty silly. Kipper is a fantastic 'tender and a total professional; stick a top-notch defensive unit in front of him and you've got yourself an ironclad fortress.

[CenterIce 83]

Hasek has a one year deal, and Osgood has one year left. Why not Kipper starting, and Howard learning from him as the backup.

[OsGOD 3]

Likening acquiring Kipper to the "Cujo situation" is pretty silly. Kipper is a fantastic 'tender and a total professional; stick a top-notch defensive unit in front of him and you've got yourself an ironclad fortress.

And cujo played out of his ass in the playoffs and the rest of the guys sucked... that is the situation I am referring to... the one that hasn't been addressed since our last cup almost 5 seasons ago..

But what the hell, lets get another amazing goalie, just to say we had them... The cup still won't get any closer because goaltending is not the problem in the postseason.

[norrisnick 1]

As a poster above stated... i see a another whole Cujo situation happen... We overpay (because that will be the ONLY way we get him is via price war with other teams) and he will play spectacular, but we will still fall becuase getting another Elite goaltender does not address what is missing from our team in the post season. We get different goalies every season and the outcome is still the same... why would getting yet another elite be any different when the underlying issues of playoff failures are just being swept under the rug each offseason?

Cujo wasn't as good as Kipper is now. Sorry. Sure he played "out of his ass" vs Calgary, but he played LIKE ass vs Anaheim. He had decent numbers, but ugly goals abound in that series. Yes, the rest of the team checked out early as well, but you can't claim Cujo played well vs the Ducks formerly known as Mighty.

Addressing scoring and not having the goaltending just leaves us in a mess as well ('06). I fully agree Kipper is not the man for the job (unless his lifelong dream was to play for the Wings and he'll sign for $3M?yr), but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be an imrprovement. He would be.

I've been leading the we need more scoring charge for a while now. But I also won't disregard that goaltending is vital and won't absolve them of any and all responsibilty for our playoff exits.

[Dabura 12,232]

And cujo played out of his ass in the playoffs and the rest of the guys sucked...

And the Devils mopped the floor with the Russian 5. NO MORE RUSSIANS PLZ!

No, but seriously, I understand what you're saying. However, Kipper would be an excellent addition, especially with Dom's retirement right around the corner and Howard's inexperience. True, Ozzie could be the #1 guy for a season or two, but at the right price, Kipper's a no-brainer. And what's more, this Wings roster means business in a way the Cujo era team most definitely did not, so I don't think you'd be seeing Kipper playing out of his ass and the rest of the guys sucking.

But this is all likely moot, as the guy's going to cost an assload.

[Guest Crymson]

Apparently he isn't happy with however much Calgary offered him after this season ends.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/post/Ki...r?urn=nhl,39703

But the interesting aspect is that he is interested in testing the market; however I'll take that for what its worth (Its just a rumor), although I really can't see him staying in Calgary when they seem to get slightly worse each year.

A ton of the people commenting at that site really think/hope/dread he'll end up in Detroit.

With Zatta's contract, we won't be able to afford him. Some crap team with a huge amount of cap space will overpay him.

[FireCaptain 563]

Correct english wording please... I can't bloody hell tell what you are saying... It's twisted and its confusing to read and I don't want to spend more than 2 SECONDS trying to figure it out!!!!!

Sounds a lot like you in your pirate phase.

[Echolalia 2,961]

Kiprusoff is definitely going to want to go to a playoff contending team; the question is how much is he willing to sacrifice from his pay to get to that team?

The Wings have been the top contending team for the past ten years, and our defense is currently one of the best (if not the best) in the league. In addition, our veteran goalie probably wont be playing after this year. Combining those three little aspects and the wings suddenly become a pretty appealing option for 1st tier goalies.

Now our priorities lie in Zetterberg and Lidstrom which could potentially lead to problems. However, I can easily see Lids taking a pay cut should he decide to play another year, and Hasek's retiring should open up an extra 2 million (plus whatever incentives we may be in debt to him). I'm on the fence as to how much Zetterberg expects to earn. He knows he can get atleast as much as Dats, probably more because hes heading to be our next captain, but in a couple interviews that I've read with him he says he isn't worried about money, and currently doesn't even think about whether hes getting underpaid. And I know hes a modest athlete and his word can only be taken so far, but it'll still be interesting to see exactly how much he gets. And we could always trade Osgood away (or let him retire too) and bring up Howard to take his place for cheaper to free up some more money (and possibly break Howard into a long successful career with the Wings)

In any event, I don't think Kiprusoff is out of the question for Detroit, but we'll definitely have to meet in the middle should it happen to occur. And lets face it, if it does occur, our team will be unstoppable defensively.

[OsGOD 3]

Sounds a lot like you in your pirate phase.

bloody spot on... I was kindly told to speak proper bloody english... which is why i made the joking comment

It was not a phase... the pirate natter has been turned over to this bugger of proper english accent. damn tough, but I can handle it chap.

Edited July 28, 2007 by OsGOD

[Dabura 12,232]

in a couple interviews that I've read with him he says he isn't worried about money, and currently doesn't even think about whether hes getting underpaid.

Ah, but that's why God invented agents.

[Booster313 138]

Kiprusoff is definitely going to want to go to a playoff contending team; the question is how much is he willing to sacrifice from his pay to get to that team?

The Wings have been the top contending team for the past ten years, and our defense is currently one of the best (if not the best) in the league. In addition, our veteran goalie probably wont be playing after this year. Combining those three little aspects and the wings suddenly become a pretty appealing option for 1st tier goalies.

Now our priorities lie in Zetterberg and Lidstrom which could potentially lead to problems. However, I can easily see Lids taking a pay cut should he decide to play another year, and Hasek's retiring should open up an extra 2 million (plus whatever incentives we may be in debt to him). I'm on the fence as to how much Zetterberg expects to earn. He knows he can get atleast as much as Dats, probably more because hes heading to be our next captain, but in a couple interviews that I've read with him he says he isn't worried about money, and currently doesn't even think about whether hes getting underpaid. And I know hes a modest athlete and his word can only be taken so far, but it'll still be interesting to see exactly how much he gets. And we could always trade Osgood away (or let him retire too) and bring up Howard to take his place for cheaper to free up some more money (and possibly break Howard into a long successful career with the Wings)

In any event, I don't think Kiprusoff is out of the question for Detroit, but we'll definitely have to meet in the middle should it happen to occur. And lets face it, if it does occur, our team will be unstoppable defensively.

I agree with everything you've said except the bit about Ozzie, I believe Howard makes the exact same amount that Ozzie makes. I do think that our being able to afford Kipper or any other big name FA depends on how our youth develops. The bigger question however is, assuming we can afford a big name FA would you rather spend that on a goalie, or go with avg goaltending (Ozzie & Howard) and bring in a scorer, say Heatly or Spezza?

[vangvace 12]

I agree with everything you've said except the bit about Ozzie, I believe Howard makes the exact same amount that Ozzie makes. I do think that our being able to afford Kipper or any other big name FA depends on how our youth develops. The bigger question however is, assuming we can afford a big name FA would you rather spend that on a goalie, or go with avg goaltending (Ozzie & Howard) and bring in a scorer, say Heatly or Spezza?

A FA goalie would be much cheaper than a scorer and easier to afford.