10/15 GDT: Anaheim Ducks 6, Red Wings 3

[interminded 1]

I doubt the Wings are quite as ready to throw Dom under the bus as some people in this forum are. The Wings play badly in California, or so it seems. So what else is new?

I am sure (hindsight being a wonderful thing) that Dom would have been very happy to trade that "freak show" of a game last night -- Homer's assessment - for the potentially winnable game in LA which Ozzie was dealt. But that's not what happened, Babs put the #1 in with the Yucks because he knew what I did... I knew before they stepped on the ice in Anaheim what was going to happen. I watched the playoffs last season...

Let's hope whomever is in goal in San Jose gets a better effort in front of him, and considerably fewer whistles. Hopefully, if it's Dom, he gets a better effort all around (refs and D), and perhaps less than a period and a half of solid PK?

Don't bother to be fair if you are among those who have, in fact, decided that Hasek is done for the year. <sarcasm alert> Be careful what you wish for...

Loo, Red Wing fans who watch the game of hockey for more than 1 week know Dom will bounce back just fine.

[puckloo39 5,686]

Loo, Red Wing fans who watch the game of hockey for more than 1 week know Dom will bounce back just fine.

of course, he will, dear. And the ones who are dissing him now will disappear and have nothing to say that's positive when he does. That's how it is.

Wings played undisciplined hockey last night and they paid for it; the goalie just gets the blame. On to San Jose, and a better effort (maybe Homer will hide the refs' whistles!!)

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I doubt the Wings are quite as ready to throw Dom under the bus as some people in this forum are. The Wings play badly in California, or so it seems. So what else is new?

I am sure (hindsight being a wonderful thing) that Dom would have been very happy to trade that "freak show" of a game last night -- Homer's assessment - for the potentially winnable game in LA which Ozzie was dealt. But that's not what happened, Babs put the #1 in with the Yucks because he knew what I did... I knew before they stepped on the ice in Anaheim what was going to happen. I watched the playoffs last season...

Let's hope whomever is in goal in San Jose gets a better effort in front of him, and considerably fewer whistles. Hopefully, if it's Dom, he gets a better effort all around (refs and D), and perhaps less than a period and a half of solid PK?

Don't bother to be fair if you are among those who have, in fact, decided that Hasek is done for the year. <sarcasm alert> Be careful what you wish for...

Easy now Loo. I know you're disappointed in how some posters have treated Hasek but there's no need to say that.

The Wings were a few bad bounces away from beating the Ducks in the playoffs last year. And that's without their #2 and #3 defensemen.

Last night's game was bush league, no question, but hardly cause to invite the retard rodeo back into town.

[interminded 1]

Easy now Loo. I know you're disappointed in how some posters have treated Hasek but there's no need to say that.

There's no need to start a goal controversy / discussion after merely 2 weeks of hockey and not even 10 games of play. And I know how quick these things develop, because many fans have been all over Ozzie because of a mediocre game or a soft goal.

I don't like it when Ozzie gets treated like that, and frankly... I don't like it when Dom gets treated like that.

(edit: Tori Spelling)

Edited October 16, 2007 by interminded

[auxlepli 17]

A person posted on the Freep - "Maybe these refs have the same bookie that the NBA refs have."

I'm inclined to agree.

I don't think anybody can judge a player's performance from last night's game because it was so poorly officiated. The only stand-out was Anaheim's goalie, and whoever the Ducks throw in net always plays very, very well against the Wings.

[edicius 3,269]

I'm just still annoyed over Zetts' called-goal due to an obvious Pronger dive. That could have been the difference-maker in the game. I mean, it seems like we've had a goal called back in every game so far this season.

[joey_corleone 0]

Everyone here knows I don't like Dom Hasek. With that being said, I can't say it was his fault at all. In fact, I feel Dom has been more solid so far this year than I've ever seen him.

You can't have officiating that is that bad, on that level, facing the defending Stanley Cup champs in their freaking building and expect to win...I mean 11 powerplays? Come on!

If I recall, we had 26 minutes in penalties. Thats nearly half the game lol. I blame the officials for nearly the entire loss. In my opinion nobody played undisciplined hockey. Which calls exactly? All I really saw were random whistles and ridiculous phantom calls.

- Joey

Edited October 16, 2007 by joey_corleone

[bringback91 2]

I don't really know why I'm a slightly surprised at some of this crap I've read in here. If some of you act the same way watching the game as you do in here after, I'm so glad I'm not stuck watching the game with you. The only thing worse than watching a game like that is listening to someone piss and moan about every little thing. My take

Refs: blew. for both sides but way too much of Dongner getting the benifit of doubt while Homer gets called for sneezing. That whole game was one of the worst officated games I've seen in a long time. But what can you do, some games you have to play the guys in stripes too.

Hasek: Let in one he should've had. Some of you are down right comical in your overreacting to this situation. He wasn't the reason the Wings lost, so quit pouting. He can play better and he will. So silly, 2 weeks in the season and the same people writing off hasek got Z beating out Crosby and Ovechkin for points by the end of the year. Get a grip. Talk about jumping the gun.

Flip/Hudler: Flips been a minor disappointment, this game he didn't look to bad, one of his better efforts I thought. Sure he missed an assigment on one guy, last time I checked people make mistakes. He played a decent game. Hudler has looked like crap all season, and done absolutly nothing. And last night I think Babs finally had enough. If Z can magically improve anyones game, what happend when he was lined up with Hudler on the wing. Sammy's been doing great, Cleary, Draper, but where's Hudler been. Hopefully on the bench or in the press box til he picks it up. It's time to give Grigs a shot, although yet again some are overreacting cause "OMG!!!!!1111 HEZ GOT 0 PTS. in 3 GAMES!!!!" Well, I'll bet money you put him with Z or Dats for a few games, you'll get more out of him then Hudler. Sure Hudler's a decent player, but he's a third liner and playing like a fourth right now.

Now i can sit back and read everyone overreact about the MIGHTY SHARKS! for two days, but what else is new? It used to be Vancover, and before that St. Louis, and before that Philly, and ect. It's annoying as hell.

[kylee 727]

I doubt the Wings are quite as ready to throw Dom under the bus as some people in this forum are. The Wings play badly in California, or so it seems. So what else is new?

but wasn't that the enigma that Detroit put to bed last play-offs?

didn't the Wings get past getting burned by West Canadian and California teams?

i thought so.

but after tonight, i just don't know.

Hasek has looked sloppy early. tonight especially of course. like many have pointed out.

of course it's easy to say to put Oz in, and id be for it if we didnt have Hasek riding the pine because of it.

i don't know, i saw someone reply that we should rotate goalies until Hasek gets it together, i could buy that.

why not give Ozzie a chance again?

but it's going to take more time for Hasek to have a few bad games and Ozzie to sparkle (like he has been) for me to actually seriously consider Ozzie taking Hasek's job.

thursday will be big against the sharks.

defense:

that's right, Lidstrom cannot do it by himself.

Lilja looked absolutely horrible and all of his turnovers reminded me of last may and the Selanne goal.

i dont even know what to do with Lilja. he looked so lethargic and ho-hum about playing defense.

and like many of you folks, i can also concerned about the lack of secondary scoring outside of Draper.

hudler and filppula and kopecky (he's the worst) have been terrible and have given zero production on the ice.

[redwingfan19 293]

Is it just me or are the Wings kinda missing Markov. The D just doesn't seem the same with him not back there. And to be quite honest I haven't been that impressed by Rafalski, some bad decisions and it seems he gets pushed of the puck real easy..

[Drake_Marcus 890]

There's no need to start a goal controversy / discussion after merely 2 weeks of hockey and not even 10 games of play. And I know how quick these things develop, because many fans have been all over Ozzie because of a mediocre game or a soft goal.

I don't like it when Ozzie gets treated like that, and frankly... I don't like it when Dom gets treated like that.

(edit: Tori Spelling)

Hey- don't look at me. I'm always supportive of our goalies. My brother's one so I've seen how stressful that position can be.

Hudler has looked like crap all season, and done absolutly nothing. And last night I think Babs finally had enough. If Z can magically improve anyones game, what happend when he was lined up with Hudler on the wing. Sammy's been doing great, Cleary, Draper, but where's Hudler been. Hopefully on the bench or in the press box til he picks it up. It's time to give Grigs a shot, although yet again some are overreacting cause "OMG!!!!!1111 HEZ GOT 0 PTS. in 3 GAMES!!!!" Well, I'll bet money you put him with Z or Dats for a few games, you'll get more out of him then Hudler. Sure Hudler's a decent player, but he's a third liner and playing like a fourth right now.

Now i can sit back and read everyone overreact about the MIGHTY SHARKS! for two days, but what else is new? It used to be Vancover, and before that St. Louis, and before that Philly, and ect. It's annoying as hell.

Hold on a sec- I have to go look up irony in the dictionary.

[bringback91 2]

Hold on a sec- I have to go look up irony in the dictionary.

you could look at it that way if you want, but fact remains Grigs didn't spend all off season training with Cheli and Goodman. He's not being depended on for second line scoring (although I think he could handle that). He didn't recive a token roster spot, starting the season with Z. No one was claiming Grigs was supposed to put up 30 goals with increased ice time. Hudlers ice time has been declining, and I didn't see much of him after the first period last night. Grig's is a bit bigger, scrappier, and has better hands and mind for the game. He really can't be much slower. I'm not rasing hell cause Hudler hasn't done anything and hasn't looked good at all but a couple shifts. I'm just not liking the fact he's being used as a second line player, when he shouldn't be IMO, and if he's not scoring what else is he going to bring. Last night Ellis and Cleary looked far more deserving of that spot 5on5 and on the PP, did they not? I'd worry less about my take on Hudler and more on the ones who hate on Sammy (who actually produces something) and want to blame Hasek for every loss.

[RedWingsFanatic 4]

My goodness, there is a lot of overreacting going on around these parts today. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but...I want to defend Dominik Hasek. Ugh. That was hard. But, here's the thing. Even as one of Dom's biggest detractors, there is no way in hell you can put this game on him and you can't abandon all hope for the rest of his season. He obviously was not very solid last night, but it's not like he got a heck of a lot of help. It was a pretty weak game all around, not only in the goaltending department. He will bounce back, he always does. Give him some time.

Alright, and as somebody who bashed the play of Filppula and Kronwall earlier, I again want to come to their defense. A couple poor games does not a player make. Have we completely abandoned any sort of patience? Let's not forget that both guys are incredibly young and immature and to expect flat-out greatness every night is ridiculous. I have been very disappointed with the play of both of them so far, but for somebody to mention that we should use them as trade bait? Jesus H. Christ. Let's breathe here for a second, folks.

[Satan81 0]

The absolutely worst called game I've seen in a long time. I don't know what anyone else wants to call that travesty last night but you surely can't call it hockey! Bettman and all the other front office jackasses that support this type of Bubble Hockey should be drawn and quartered!!

Pieces

Satan

[OsGOD 3]

I felt like i was watching an OHL game... Ugh horrible calls. I got enough of those comming up this weekend i don't need them during the week also.

Edited October 16, 2007 by OsGOD

[VM1138 1,921]

People's complaints are legitimate. No one is "throwing Hasek under the bus". He had a bad night, after his traditional slow start. People just want to find a way to get him into form without hurting the Wings too bad, which is why they're talking about giving Osgood (9-0-5 in his last 14 games) more playing time. It's not like we want Hasek traded or anything. He'll play amazing later on. But we need to get some momentum.

The Hudler/Kopecky/Flip line DOES lack confidence. I hate to say it, but maybe it's time to break up Zetterberg and Dats? True, they are an unstoppable combo, and breaking them up doesn't always work, but someone with some experience needs to play with these kids. I was all excited to give them a shot but so far they're bombing, bad. Maybe even putting Cleary up there for a while, someone who drives to the net, plays hard, and makes things happen. It's kind of sad that to improve their line we need to hack apart the lines that are working for us. Maybe we should just drop them to Line 4 and bump everyone else up? Heh. Those kids need someone experienced or confident on their line to give them some quality.

I know they're young, but they're not going to learn if they only play with other inexperienced kids.

And our defense needs to learn how to spread out and not get caught in the offensive zone on a turnover.

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

for the potentially winnable game in LA which Ozzie was dealt

I get that you're mad and you have every reason to be, but in no way was Ozzie 'dealt' a winnable game against the Kings. The Wings fed off of Ozzie's play early in the first in which he kept them in it when neither team was scoring. He played a fantastic game. It wasn't dealt to him, he earned it.

[Flip-check 6]

hasek sucks plain and simple

Aside from that display of eloquence, you may want to change your username.

Unless Brandon is okay with people mistaking flammatory comments from you as his?

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Aside from that display of eloquence, you may want to change your username.

Unless Brandon is okay with people mistaking flammatory comments from you as his?

He also stole his signature.

[Flip-check 6]

He's apparently a friend of OsGod's, but yeah I don't get pretending to be someone else.

Especially a supposed buddy.

[wingslogo19 281]

He's apparently a friend of OsGod's, but yeah I don't get pretending to be someone else.

Especially a supposed buddy.

Its a pretty toolish move

[OsGOD 3]

For the record... i have/had no affiliation with my mini-me... i just decided to embrace the weirdness that was mimicing.

I was made aware of this person later on last night.

Edited October 16, 2007 by OsGOD

[Flip-check 6]

Weird. I must have mistaken your comments in the watercooler.

I probably wouldn't have been too inviting to someone practically posing as me though.

[OsGOD 3]

Weird. I must have mistaken your comments in the watercooler.

I probably wouldn't have been too inviting to someone practically posing as me though.

yeah i actually didn't care all that much, oddly. i was laughing a bit at all the trouble. and all the caring PM"s i got from peeps questioning this said person... People care they really do :sniff: haha