LEBDA22 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...san_jose_l.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 this is crap! the seasons just started and our players are already dropping like flies! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldbuck 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 AAAgggghhhhh!!! This makes me a sad panda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Man, none of our players would be getting injured if only Aaron Downey was on the roster... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut40 176 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Hey, Ozzy's starting! At least Babcock is seeing that he's playing better than Dom. I think the injury would have to be pretty bad for Nick to not play. I can see Hank not playing though. Hey, Hank and I have something in common, we both have hip flexors except mine's from cross country. Seriously though, they need to stop killing themselves. We already have Franzen and Sammy out the last thing we need is our sickest players injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Man, none of our players would be getting injured if only Aaron Downey was on the roster... You know, if you want to be a dick, maybe you could try getting your facts straight. Downey played a grand total of 2 30 second shifts during the last game. He has no control over that. Babcock chose instead to play Kopecky instead, who is the worst player on the whole damn team. Z and Lidstrom got hurt because Anaheim is just that tough a team. Even if Downey played a regular shift, the Wings were still overmatched by Anaheim. And that's just a simple attribution to how the team was built. You can say the ever classic "Did you watch the playoffs last year????!!!1" stuff, but it's a fact that Anaheim is still bigger and tougher then Detroit. Anyone who denies that notion is either the biggest damn homer on the planet, or is absolutley insane. With Z's back problems, it's no surprise he got hurt. I just can't imagine who their going to put in now to replace him. This team is horribly short on depth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 We'll get beaten worse then last year if Nick AND Z are out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 I have a feeling it's nothing serious and that one or maybe the both of them will play tomorrow night. Just looks like it's precaution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Man, none of our players would be getting injured if only Aaron Downey was on the roster... Well, think about what you just said. I know your being sarcastic, but they got injured, while Downey either wasent playing, or was on the bench. Maybe if he and Drake got more then 5 shifts combined per game, players wouldnt constantly take libertys with our team. You cant enjoy having our 2 best players injured? The only thing that would cut down the amount of injuries would be an enforcer. Anyways, Franzen, Sammy, Z and Lidstrom. We ARE in trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 You know, if you want to be a dick, maybe you could try getting your facts straight. Downey played a grand total of 2 30 second shifts during the last game. He has no control over that. Babcock chose instead to play Kopecky instead, who is the worst player on the whole damn team. Z and Lidstrom got hurt because Anaheim is just that tough a team. Even if Downey played a regular shift, the Wings were still overmatched by Anaheim. And that's just a simple attribution to how the team was built. You can say the ever classic "Did you watch the playoffs last year????!!!1" stuff, but it's a fact that Anaheim is still bigger and tougher then Detroit. Anyone who denies that notion is either the biggest damn homer on the planet, or is absolutley insane. With Z's back problems, it's no surprise he got hurt. I just can't imagine who their going to put in now to replace him. This team is horribly short on depth. Hmm...people were bitching all summer that having an enforcer would prevent our players from getting injured because of big meanies like Anaheim. Myself and a few others blasted that statement as 'ridiculous' because an enforcer wouldn't be on the ice enough and were shouted down. So when I bring up the fact that I WAS RIGHT I get slammed as being an ass and get the 'Downey didn't play much' as the excuse? I ******* CALLED that he wouldn't play enough to be a deterrent!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Good to see Ozzy is starting. And it doesn't sound like its to serious. I'd rather them not play 1 game tomorrow, than having them out for say 3 or 4 weeks.. We need both of those guys come playoff time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEBDA22 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 maybe we will see ryno and kindl ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Anyways, Franzen, Sammy, Z and Lidstrom. We ARE in trouble. True. But better now than later on in the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingedKitten 9 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 This doesn't sound too seroius, I think we will be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 (edited) Hmm...people were bitching all summer that having an enforcer would prevent our players from getting injured because of big meanies like Anaheim. Myself and a few others blasted that statement as 'ridiculous' because an enforcer wouldn't be on the ice enough and were shouted down. So when I bring up the fact that I WAS RIGHT I get slammed as being an ass and get the 'Downey didn't play much' as the excuse? I ******* CALLED that he wouldn't play enough to be a deterrent!! Downey only played 2 SHIFTS the whole ******* game. How is that enough for a guy to be anything of a factor at all? It's obviously apparent you're one of the many "anti-enforcers" on these forums, but can you say with full confidence that some of the guys on this team are truely more deserving of the ice time their getting over Downey? Look at how much guys like Kopecky, Hulder, and Filppula played last game, and they did jack s*** in the process. If Downey would have gotten more ice time, he would have been more a factor. Not to completely stop Anaheim from pummeling the Wings, because only one-middleweight enforcer is not capable of that. And before you accuse me of being one of the ones that said it would, don't. I've said numerous times that this team is a far cry from being anything near being able to match the toughness of Anaheim. Downey would have simpily helped, not stop the whole thing all together. Guys like Boogaard could do that, but not Downey. But still, Downey would have helped had he gotten anymore then table-scrap minutes. Disagree all you want, I really don't ******* care. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. (by the way, I can oversize the text and be a dickhead too) Edited October 17, 2007 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 True. But better now than later on in the season. Good point, Im glad it's now rather then later. If it was late in the season or close to the playoffs that'd be terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 True. But better now than later on in the season. copy cat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 maybe we will see ryno and kindl ? THE RHINO!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 copy cat Ooh my bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Well, think about what you just said. I know your being sarcastic, but they got injured, while Downey either wasent playing, or was on the bench. Maybe if he and Drake got more then 5 shifts combined per game, players wouldnt constantly take libertys with our team. You cant enjoy having our 2 best players injured? The only thing that would cut down the amount of injuries would be an enforcer. Anyways, Franzen, Sammy, Z and Lidstrom. We ARE in trouble. Downey and Drake didn't play much because other players contribute more to the team than they do. Pretty simple. And the argument leveled all offseason was that having an enforcer ON THE ROSTER would deter other teams from taking liberties. My argument of 'an enforcer who doesn't have skill won't play much, and won't deter anything' was labeled as ignorant and dismissed. Yet here we are, with an enforcer who doesn't have skill, therefore he doesn't play much, and as a result provides no deterrent. I will restate what I have said before; I am not against fighting or toughness, I just think it's a waste of a roster spot to play a guy whose only asset are his fists, meaning he's not good enough to actually put on the ice for more than a token appearance. A true deterrent is the Bob Probert/Darren McCarty type guy. A guy who will be on the ice regularly and has the fighting ability to make other players think twice about stuff. A guy like Downey does nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Ooh my bad. it's ok, great minds think a like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 (edited) Holy God, if this thread was filled with any more overreaction you'd think this was game 7 of the stanley cup finals. Do you guys not realize who the coach is? Do you not realize that if Zetterberg or Datsyuk had hang nails they'd be game time decisions? Babcock takes zero chances when the games are less than do or die. Relax, good God. And seriously KP, get a grip and relax, your outbursts and inability to take things in stride makes reading these threads almost unbearable. You have your point and mock other people but you can't take it right back, either do so or cut it out on your end. And are people really saying that these injuries are a direct result of Downey only playing 2 shifts? Do we even know when they injuries occurred? Stop tying everything together, it's ignorant. Edited October 17, 2007 by Heaton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEBDA22 0 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Downey only played 2 SHIFTS the whole ******* game. How is that enough for a guy to be anything of a factor at all? It's obviously apparent you're one of the many "anti-enforcers" on these forums, but can you say with full confidence that some of the guys on this team are truely more deserving of the ice time their getting over Downey? Look at how much guys like Kopecky, Hulder, and Filppula played last game, and they did jack s*** in the process. If Downey would have gotten more ice time, he would have been more a factor. Not to completely stop Anaheim from pummeling the Wings, because only one-middleweight enforcer is not capable of that. And before you accuse me of being one of the ones that said it would, don't. I've said numerous times that this team is a far cry from being anything near being able to match the toughness of Anaheim. Downey would have simpily helped, not stop the whole thing all together. Guys like Boogaard could do that, but not Downey. But still, Downey would have helped had he gotten anymore then table-scrap minutes. Disagree all you want, I really don't ******* care. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. (by the way, I can oversize the text and be a dickhead too) I am with you kp . he may not of stoped everything , but he could have helped out . even the game against the kings he didnt play that much and i saw ivanas run pavel evey time he was on the ice . this s*** needs to stop , and i know one player will not make it stop , but if he gets more ice time , maybe it wont happen as often ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted October 17, 2007 Downey and Drake didn't play much because other players contribute more to the team than they do. Who exactly is deserving of more ice time, other then the obvious choices of Zetterberg and Datsyuk? The young guys aren't doing s*** right now. Their getting prime time minutes, yet aren't do damn well of anything. I don't see how they are contributing any more then guys like Drake are. I am well aware of the fact that Downey isn't a very good fighter. When he was signed, I never said that he would stop the problem the Wings have. Hell, only someone like Boogaard or Laraque could do that by himself. But given the situation, and how bad some guys like Kopecky are playing, I don't see why it would be so bad to give Downey a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
