Todd Bertuzzi offered $350,000 last year...

[OsGOD 3]

Good thing D-mac didn't break Lemieux's neck with his punches i would hate to see him going through all of this bull s*** also.

And also thank god Naslund didn't get seriously hurt from Moores original lack of caring for another player.

Its not that i feeling this way because i am a Bert fan.. I just don't see beyond a reasonable doubt his broken neck was caused by Berts punch. And therefore the Moore camp should be happy with $1.

Osgod:

You seriously have never seen a guy drilled into the boards and have their neck broken?

See the following:

Travis Roy!!!

I have seen it happen to two kids from my high school. It happens a hell of a lot more often than people jumping on each other causing it does.

Football games they must have 15-20 big piles a game. People celebrating after winning a game in any sport.

Bert is at fault because his actions caused the injury.

Oh no i have seen it happen... he brought that on himself saddly... its was most unfortuante.

Edited November 6, 2007 by OsGOD

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

The low side of that sounds reasonable to me.

Maybe you should arbitrate Eva. Let's get this deal done and behind us!

Moore already fought that game. Just because Bertuzzi didn't like the outcome doesn't mean Moore has to take on every guy on the team to be "fair."

People also forget that the teams had played since the Naslund hit.

Ah yes, but here's where the code comes into play. Some would argue that Moore did as he should when he fought Matt Cooke. Others, like myself would argue that you don't get to decide when you've eaten your lunch to the liking of the other team. Of course, in hindsight we all wish this would've just never happened. But had there been no severe injury to Moore, my position is that if the other team wants a piece of you, they want a piece of you until they don't. And if that means you have to fight 3 guys in that game, well then that's what you have to do.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Ah yes, but here's where the code comes into play. Some would argue that Moore did as he should when he fought Matt Cooke. Others, like myself would argue that you don't get to decide when you've eaten your lunch to the liking of the other team. Of course, in hindsight we all wish this would've just never happened. But had there been no severe injury to Moore, my position is that if the other team wants a piece of you, they want a piece of you until they don't. And if that means you have to fight 3 guys in that game, well then that's what you have to do.

I agree that the code comes in to play.

If three guys challenge you to a fight in that game, you sure as hell don't have to fight. In retrospect of course Moore should've turned around and just gotten it over with. But Vancouver was a joke. They waited until the game was out of hand, and I'm almost positive these two teams had played since the Naslund hit. They should've taken care of it the very next game.

Instead the game got out of reach, and Bertuzzi saw an opportunity to try and square things up one more time.

Good thing D-mac didn't break Lemieux's neck with his punches i would hate to see him going through all of this bull s*** also.

And also thank god Naslund didn't get seriously hurt from Moores original lack of caring for another player.

Its not that i feeling this way because i am a Bert fan.. I just don't see beyond a reasonable doubt his broken neck was caused by Berts punch. And therefore the Moore camp should be happy with $1.

Oh no i have seen it happen... he brought that on himself saddly... its was most unfortuante.

ahh, I was waiting until someone would bust out the Naslund hit as justification for Bert's actions. I'm a little surprised no one has chimed in saying Bert stepped on a stick and fell on Moore.

Yes, I'm sure this has nothing to do with you being a Bertuzzi fan.

It doesn't matter if it was the punch or not that caused the broken neck. The broken neck was entirely because of Bertuzzi.

Honestly it doesn't even matter if his neck broke or not. Whether it was the punch, or Moore losing consciousness and hitting the ice, or any other reason, all those things come back to Bert knocking Moore's lights out on a suckerpunch from behind. That punch and that event ended Moore's playing career.

$1 million is a joke. He broke the guys neck, gave him a concussion and ended his hockey career.

Edited November 6, 2007 by haroldsnepsts

[Opie 308]

GS&T what if that guy were Homer, and every time the wings played Philly Hartnell went after him every time Homer stepped on the ice. Because they thought some thing he did was wrong. Remember that hit Moore laid out was not that horrendous of at hit as much as it was Naslund being in a very vulnerable position and Moore taking advantage of the situation. Naslund was leaning for the puck and was exposed, do I think Moore should have let up, damn straight I do. But Moore's hit was not the same as Lemieux. And even Lemiuex had a statue of limitations on how long the wings went after him.

Another thought is what if Col thought he had paid the piper with 2-3 fights, but Van thought he should have to deal with it for the season. Now Col is in the mind frame that Van has crossed the line and goes after a Van player, on and on we go on the merry go round of when enough is enough.

If you want to deliver a message you send your tough guy out to whoop his ass, you hit him hard when he has the puck, you make sure you follow through on every check. You do not sucker punch him from behind, that in my book is worse than the hit that Moore laid on Naslund. Even if Moore gets up the second after he hits the ice, punching a guy from behind is dirty and there is need to do it.

Remember a sucker punch from behind is what started a lot of the issues with Lemiuex, he sucker punched Kozlov and that is where the s*** began.

[T.Low 1,011]

Don't think it was the actual punch that broke the vertebrae in Moore's neck as much as it was Bert falling atop of an unconscious Moore, & driving his head onto the ice

After the hit, Moore is on his way down with 245lb Bertuzzi on his way down on top of him and look at the force from Bertuzzi at that point driving Moore's head into the ice. Thats what did it.

As for the lack of hand shake: there's a room with two attorney's and Bertuzzi and over a million dollars at stake, how can I be bothered to believe anything either side says regarding what went on at that meeting. Too bad for Bertuzzi, WAY too bad for Moore, but I am glad the Red Wings don't have to put up with the side show of the extended drama and all its baggage.

I have to admit though, that I was sort of looking forward to Bertuzzi with the Wings visitng Vancouver. The crowd would cheer everytime he touched the puck So a play sequence where Chelios would outlet to Bertuzzi, then back to Cheli to relieve pressure, then back to Bertuzzi, then to a streaking Cheli , the crowd would sound like this: BOOOO...YAAAAY... BOOOO...YAAAAY...BOOOO. That would be fun regardless.

[OsGOD 3]

Honestly it doesn't even matter if his neck broke or not. Whether it was the punch, or Moore losing consciousness and hitting the ice, or any other reason, all those things come back to Bert knocking Moore's lights out on a suckerpunch from behind. That punch and that event ended Moore's playing career.

$1 million is a joke. He broke the guys neck, gave him a concussion and ended his hockey career.

So if it so clear cut... why after several years is nothing really decided on it in the court of law.

I agree with Jaytan... Bert should persue this in court and Finish him... ergh.. this!

$1 seems like a good settlement amount... we are all assuming the man who took cheap shots at Martin St. Louis, Steve Yzerman and Marcus Naslund.. was going to have a long lustrious career in the NHL. Too bad really we didn't get see who well it all played out. Bert has done his time... time for the media and peeps to move on.

Edited November 6, 2007 by OsGOD

[T.Low 1,011]

GS&T what if that guy were Homer, and every time the wings played Philly Hartnell went after him every time Homer stepped on the ice. Because they thought some thing he did was wrong. Remember that hit Moore laid out was not that horrendous of at hit as much as it was Naslund being in a very vulnerable position and Moore taking advantage of the situation. Naslund was leaning for the puck and was exposed, do I think Moore should have let up, damn straight I do. But Moore's hit was not the same as Lemieux. And even Lemiuex had a statue of limitations on how long the wings went after him.

Another thought is what if Col thought he had paid the piper with 2-3 fights, but Van thought he should have to deal with it for the season. Now Col is in the mind frame that Van has crossed the line and goes after a Van player, on and on we go on the merry go round of when enough is enough.

If you want to deliver a message you send your tough guy out to whoop his ass, you hit him hard when he has the puck, you make sure you follow through on every check. You do not sucker punch him from behind, that in my book is worse than the hit that Moore laid on Naslund. Even if Moore gets up the second after he hits the ice, punching a guy from behind is dirty and there is need to do it.

Remember a sucker punch from behind is what started a lot of the issues with Lemiuex, he sucker punched Kozlov and that is where the s*** began.

Naslund seemed to be looking right in Moore's direction, how did he not pull back much sooner? Instead, he extended for he puck and exposed himself and sure enough Moore when in to get some.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOAxYWeQWxE

[wingslogo19 281]

I was at that game. IMO, I don't think it was the punch that broke Steve's neck. Its not like Bert was punching Paris Hilton. and for 15 million, moore wasn't going to see that even if he kept on playing in the NHL

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

GS&T what if that guy were Homer, and every time the wings played Philly Hartnell went after him every time Homer stepped on the ice. Because they thought some thing he did was wrong. Remember that hit Moore laid out was not that horrendous of at hit as much as it was Naslund being in a very vulnerable position and Moore taking advantage of the situation. Naslund was leaning for the puck and was exposed, do I think Moore should have let up, damn straight I do. But Moore's hit was not the same as Lemieux. And even Lemiuex had a statue of limitations on how long the wings went after him.

Another thought is what if Col thought he had paid the piper with 2-3 fights, but Van thought he should have to deal with it for the season. Now Col is in the mind frame that Van has crossed the line and goes after a Van player, on and on we go on the merry go round of when enough is enough.

If you want to deliver a message you send your tough guy out to whoop his ass, you hit him hard when he has the puck, you make sure you follow through on every check. You do not sucker punch him from behind, that in my book is worse than the hit that Moore laid on Naslund. Even if Moore gets up the second after he hits the ice, punching a guy from behind is dirty and there is need to do it.

Remember a sucker punch from behind is what started a lot of the issues with Lemiuex, he sucker punched Kozlov and that is where the s*** began.

In your example, I think eventually common sense would prevail. Remember, there's still games to be played, games to win, penalties, fines and suspensions to be levied upon those who cannot control themselves.

Then, factor in the players themselves. In your example, Homer isn't going to fight. He'll protect himself and the Hartnell will get penalty minutes. The Preds/Flyers aren't going to just let Hartnell keep putting them a man down.

Players have long memories, but they also know when enough is enough. Had Moore fought Bertuzzi or tackled him or whatever and a big brawl broke out. It'd probably peter out after that IMO. I don't think it would've continued to escalate a la Detroit/Colorado did back in the 90's. Although it could've. And if it did, well then there is your answer. If Colorado felt that Vancouver crossed the line then they'd do something about it.

But at the end of the day, as I said, they're still trying to win games and no player wants to get suspended so more often than not cooler heads prevail or guys let it go. Hartnell would never make Homer pay forever.

[HenryMalredo 2]

What a lot of people seem not to understand is that the formal and informal rules of hockey have little to know effect on what kind of settlement will be reached, or what the judgement would be should this go to court. The law has no use for issues on if Moore is a coward and cheapshot artist, or if "The Code" was properly followed. Those are unimportant to law.

Also, is their no concrete information on the cause of Moore's broken neck in the news? I find it hard to believe that we need to argue over something that should have been already established as a medical fact.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

So if it so clear cut... why after several years is nothing really decided on it in the court of law.

I agree with Jaytan... Bert should persue this in court and Finish him... ergh.. this!

$1 seems like a good settlement amount... we are all assuming the man who took cheap shots at Martin St. Louis, Steve Yzerman and Marcus Naslund.. was going to have a long lustrious career in the NHL. Too bad really we didn't get see who well it all played out. Bert has done his time... time for the media and peeps to move on.

Because legal proceedings move at a snails pace. And Bert did his time for an NHL suspension, that has nothing to do with the settlement.

1 million is ridiculously low. Bertuzzi ended the guys hockey career at any level, and caused Moore to go through a long rehabilitation.

Moore has probably already lost that amount in NHL salary. He was likely never going to be a star, but he had a good chance of being a grinder in the NHL.

For a point of reference, Matt Ellis is currently making $475,000 and will make the same next year. So missing two years of play for a guy of Ellis's abilities, and you're pretty much at 1 million. Then add to that the injury and future earnings even as a low level player.

And the NHL and Bettman especially would love to have this behind them and move on. This latest insulting move by Bert and his lawyers will only prolong the case and stir back up the publicity (evidenced by this thread).

Edited November 6, 2007 by haroldsnepsts

[sibiriak 84]

Good thing D-mac didn't break Lemieux's neck with his punches i would hate to see him going through all of this bull s*** also.

And also thank god Naslund didn't get seriously hurt from Moores original lack of caring for another player.

Its not that i feeling this way because i am a Bert fan.. I just don't see beyond a reasonable doubt his broken neck was caused by Berts punch. And therefore the Moore camp should be happy with $1.

Oh no i have seen it happen... he brought that on himself saddly... its was most unfortuante.

Bertuzzi's guilt is no longer at issue. He already plead guilty to the criminal charge in this case and served his community service/slap on the wrist sentence. The only issue remaining is how much money Moore gets ina civil suit.

[BlakChamber 8]

Its not that i feeling this way because i am a Bert fan.. I just don't see beyond a reasonable doubt his broken neck was caused by Berts punch. And therefore the Moore camp should be happy with $1.

For what its worth, the legal standard in civil cases (what Bertuzzi and Moore are in) is preponderance of the evidence, not reasonable doubt.

Look at it this way, lets say I push you, intending just to keep you away from me. Instead, you trip while stumbling backwards, fall, hit your head on a table and break your neck. I don't just get to say "all I did was push him away from me, it's the table's fault." The law doesn't work that way.

[Turretin 0]

BlakChamber,

Because reasonable doubt is a HIGHER standard than preponderance of the evidence, Bertuzzi may be estopped from raising any defenses to the breach element of Moore's intentional tort claim. However, I am not familiar with Canadian law, so I can't speak authoritatively on their estoppel procedures.

All the best.

[BlakChamber 8]

BlakChamber,

Because reasonable doubt is a HIGHER standard than preponderance of the evidence, Bertuzzi may be estopped from raising any defenses to the breach element of Moore's intentional tort claim. However, I am not familiar with Canadian law, so I can't speak authoritatively on their estoppel procedures.

All the best.

I know the difference between the standards of evidence. My comment was more for OsGod and that Bertuzzi needs to prove to him something beyod a reasonable doubt.

I do mostly criminal and very little civil work, and what civil I do is mostly family law, it sounds like you probably know more than I do in this sort of case.

[BeeRYCE 2]

With all this being said... I honestly do not think that this Bertuzzi hit was not the worst incident the NHL has ever produced.

There's been plenty of sucker punches in the NHL, probably a couple to a few a season, this one was just unfortunate. Unfortunate in the sense that Bertuzzi is an ogre, and his brute force combined with him/guys landing on top of him resulted in a very serious injury. Point being, if he just sucker punched him and kind of skated away, yes he would have got suspended, yes he would have paid the consequences, but I honestly can't say that it would be the most infamous cheap shot hockey or any sport for that matter has ever seen.

Back to me saying that this wasn't the worst thing... I honestly don't think it was. I don't condone these kind of incidents in any manner either, I play hockey and I'm a very clean hockey player, but I don't think this was the worst. Jesse Boulerice, Chris Simon, Marty Mcsorley, and was it Komisarek in the AHL that swung his stuck at another guy. I think all these incidents were worse, or at least looked worse.

Bottom line, if Bertuzzi and all of those other guys didn't pile up on Moore, it wouldn't have been as bad. Looking at that video again, it was the initial hit to the ice that really did do it.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Bertuzzi is a loser. He deserves to get shelled for the Moore incident.

[BeeRYCE 2]

The combination of the lawsuits, suspensions, fines, and being under the hostile media/fan microscope really got him what he deserved... AND THEN SOME.

I think it's unfair for people to say he's a loser and hate the guy, he has been depressed for years now and it really gets to him. Those tears he shed weren't fake, and in turn the punishment was real. He got what he deserved and I think we, and Steve Moore for that matter should move on.

Edited November 7, 2007 by BeeRYCE

[T-Ruff 47]

Question: What was the exact injury Moore suffered? I am under the impression that is is much less severe than the connotations naturally attached to "broken neck." I remember reading that it is the type of injury that people can have for several days before realizing something is wrong enough to go get checked out.

Question 2: Has Moore made any effort whatsoever to try and get back to the ice? I am under the impression that he has not.... I know if I grew up playing hockey and fulfilled my dream of playing in the NHL I would do everything I could to try and get back on the ice, even if lesser than the NHL capacity.....

Bertuzzi doesn't owe Moore a dime......

Consider this... What if it was Joe Sakic who he had punched and "broken his neck"? Bertuzzi would have tearfully apologized just like he did with Moore..... but the difference is that Joe Sakic, a class act, would have accepted the apology.....Joe Sakic would have immediately got on track to returning to the NHL.....and Joe Sakic would be playing right now....

He would not sit back milking his injuries and hiding behind is lawyers trying to get money... more money than he knows he would make the rest of his NHL career.....

I have lost all respect for Moore over the course of this incident.... Bertuzzi has more than paid for what he has done....

I wish him the best in his future non-Ducks related () endeavors....

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Question: What was the exact injury Moore suffered? I am under the impression that is is much less severe than the connotations naturally attached to "broken neck." I remember reading that it is the type of injury that people can have for several days before realizing something is wrong enough to go get checked out.

Question 2: Has Moore made any effort whatsoever to try and get back to the ice? I am under the impression that he has not.... I know if I grew up playing hockey and fulfilled my dream of playing in the NHL I would do everything I could to try and get back on the ice, even if lesser than the NHL capacity.....

Bertuzzi doesn't owe Moore a dime......

Consider this... What if it was Joe Sakic who he had punched and "broken his neck"? Bertuzzi would have tearfully apologized just like he did with Moore..... but the difference is that Joe Sakic, a class act, would have accepted the apology.....Joe Sakic would have immediately got on track to returning to the NHL.....and Joe Sakic would be playing right now....

He would not sit back milking his injuries and hiding behind is lawyers trying to get money... more money than he knows he would make the rest of his NHL career.....

I have lost all respect for Moore over the course of this incident.... Bertuzzi has more than paid for what he has done....

I wish him the best in his future non-Ducks related () endeavors....

I couldn't disagree with you more.

Moore's career is over, his neck WAS broken - and as a result, he will never play hockey again.

As for your example, what IF it was Joe Sakic. Bertuzzi would be OUT OF THE LEAGUE FOR LIFE. The only reason the NHL and the PA didn't rip this guy a new one was because Moore was a 4th liner at best. Perhaps Sakic may have been given the opportunity to come back because of his star status - Moore didn't have that luxury, he was still out to prove himself every night and earn a job.

Sure Bertuzzi cried - big deal. Moore broke his neck and is no longer in the NHL. Regardless if he could have come back or not, his career was already in question based on skill. Bertuzzi's punch ended his career as an NHL hockey player and he should be held responsible financially, at the very LEAST.

[Turretin 0]

Question: What was the exact injury Moore suffered? I am under the impression that is is much less severe than the connotations naturally attached to "broken neck." I remember reading that it is the type of injury that people can have for several days before realizing something is wrong enough to go get checked out.

Moore suffered a broken neck. Meaning, Bertuzzi broke Moore's neck. Your neck is that thing between your shoulders and your head. Moore has undergone numerous surgeries and pt sessions.

Question 2: Has Moore made any effort whatsoever to try and get back to the ice? I am under the impression that he has not.... I know if I grew up playing hockey and fulfilled my dream of playing in the NHL I would do everything I could to try and get back on the ice, even if lesser than the NHL capacity.....

Bertuzzi doesn't owe Moore a dime......

Moore continues, to this day, to try to rehabilitate with the help of experts. Because of nerve damage he has severe nausea when he exerts any significant amount of energy. In rare cases, some people do experience a type of nerve regeneration. This is not likely.

Consider this... What if it was Joe Sakic who he had punched and "broken his neck"? Bertuzzi would have tearfully apologized just like he did with Moore..... but the difference is that Joe Sakic, a class act, would have accepted the apology.....Joe Sakic would have immediately got on track to returning to the NHL.....and Joe Sakic would be playing right now....

He would not sit back milking his injuries and hiding behind is lawyers trying to get money... more money than he knows he would make the rest of his NHL career.....

I have lost all respect for Moore over the course of this incident.... Bertuzzi has more than paid for what he has done....

I wish him the best in his future non-Ducks related () endeavors....

That is nonsense. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't posit "facts" about what so-and-so would or would not be doing. It's like someone saying that "if Joe Sakic had his heart fail on him like Jiri, he'd already be back by now."

Edited November 7, 2007 by Turretin

[T-Ruff 47]

I couldn't disagree with you more.

Moore's career is over, his neck WAS broken - and as a result, he will never play hockey again.

I'm still unclear of what his exact injury was... and until then....

As for your example, what IF it was Joe Sakic. Bertuzzi would be OUT OF THE LEAGUE FOR LIFE. The only reason the NHL and the PA didn't rip this guy a new one was because Moore was a 4th liner at best.

I realize that would have been a possibility, but thats not the point.... The point is Sakic or a person of his character, Sakic was just an example, would not have been such a punk and gone and tried to sue Bertuzzi for all he's worth....

Perhaps Sakic may have been given the opportunity to come back because of his star status - Moore didn't have that luxury, he was still out to prove himself every night and earn a job.

Star status has nothing to do with the opportunity to come back.... Moore had and still has the opportunity to come back... but he has to work towards it.... and Sakic, (or a person of his character) would do just that. If my question 2 is answered perhaps I could give Moore more credit....

[Yzerfan1999 81]

I'm still unclear of what his exact injury was... and until then....

I realize that would have been a possibility, but thats not the point.... The point is Sakic or a person of his character, Sakic was just an example, would not have been such a punk and gone and tried to sue Bertuzzi for all he's worth....

Star status has nothing to do with the opportunity to come back.... Moore had and still has the opportunity to come back... but he has to work towards it.... and Sakic, (or a person of his character) would do just that. If my question 2 is answered perhaps I could give Moore more credit....

So you are judging Moore's character based on what? The fact he wants compensation for at least 3 years of lost salary and a broken neck? I'd say Bertuzzi offering a measly $350,000 and not having the decency to shake hands with Moore's lawyer a better picture of one's character...not to mention the violent act he committed towards Moore in the first place.

Bottom line is Bertuzzi has cost Moore a significant amount of money, potentially his career, and caused a severe amount of pain - you think he should not offer more then $350,000 of compensation? After all, Burke gave him 4 million...Its not like Bertuzzi can't afford to at least try and make up for what he has done.

Star status has nothing to do with the opportunity to come back....

UNtrue. There is a reason Yzerman, Messier, Hasek, and Howe (not to mention others) have been given the opportunity to come back from things like the lockout and retirement, or just old age. Its because they are or were superstars during their careers. Like I said, Moore was a guy fighting for a roster spot - its not like the loss of him sent shock waves through fantasy pools, or disrupted the NHL scoring race. The guy was fighting for a job - Bertuzzi took that away from him by breaking his neck.

Edited November 7, 2007 by Yzerfan1999

[seeinred 1,488]

With all this being said... I honestly do not think that this Bertuzzi hit was not the worst incident the NHL has ever produced.

There's been plenty of sucker punches in the NHL, probably a couple to a few a season, this one was just unfortunate. Unfortunate in the sense that Bertuzzi is an ogre, and his brute force combined with him/guys landing on top of him resulted in a very serious injury. Point being, if he just sucker punched him and kind of skated away, yes he would have got suspended, yes he would have paid the consequences, but I honestly can't say that it would be the most infamous cheap shot hockey or any sport for that matter has ever seen.

Back to me saying that this wasn't the worst thing... I honestly don't think it was. I don't condone these kind of incidents in any manner either, I play hockey and I'm a very clean hockey player, but I don't think this was the worst. Jesse Boulerice, Chris Simon, Marty Mcsorley, and was it Komisarek in the AHL that swung his stuck at another guy. I think all these incidents were worse, or at least looked worse.

Bottom line, if Bertuzzi and all of those other guys didn't pile up on Moore, it wouldn't have been as bad. Looking at that video again, it was the initial hit to the ice that really did do it.

I agree with you to a point. All those incidents you mentioned definitely looked worse and in general have a higher potential to injure someone, but the fact is that Bertuzzi ended Moore's career. It's been said before, but this would have been no big deal if Moore had skated away from the punch, just like if Simon had ended Hollweg's career, he'd be in at least as much if not more s*** as Bert. I like Bert, and I don't believe that it was the punch directly that broke his neck, but he is unfortunately responsible. Without sounding too harsh, I really couldn't give a s*** less about Moore, but I hope he at least gets something to support him for a while out of this, because he has suffered.

And it was Perezhogin in the AHL stick swinging incident, I believe.

[eva unit zero 271]

I agree with you to a point. All those incidents you mentioned definitely looked worse and in general have a higher potential to injure someone, but the fact is that Bertuzzi ended Moore's career. It's been said before, but this would have been no big deal if Moore had skated away from the punch, just like if Simon had ended Hollweg's career, he'd be in at least as much if not more s*** as Bert. I like Bert, and I don't believe that it was the punch directly that broke his neck, but he is unfortunately responsible. Without sounding too harsh, I really couldn't give a s*** less about Moore, but I hope he at least gets something to support him for a while out of this, because he has suffered.

And it was Perezhogin in the AHL stick swinging incident, I believe.

Bertuzzi's incident was worse than the others. Why, you ask? Because it was premeditated assault. Bertuzzi planned to make Moore pay. That is also why Bertuzzi should have to open his pocketbook. Because his planned assault of Steve Moore resulted in Moore's career being ended, and having to go through significant physical therapy.