naranja 1 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 OMG What a move by Dom. Congrats to Dom for the shutout and to Zata for the hattrick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 These two games were the perfect medicine, and I believe the next game he gets, they can throw the kitchen sink at him and it won't matter. He'll play on Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Packer487 3 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 I'm not trying to degrade Hasek or put him down in any way. I have no complaints whatsoever about his play in the last two games. As I've said, despite my preference towards Osgood, ultimately I want the best guy in net when it counts whoever that may be. That said, the whole "Dom's back" thing is still really premature. Again, I'm not saying he's played bad at all. He's been fine, but both of these games were utter and complete jokes. Besides the fact that he faced very few shots in each game, the even fewer actual "chances" he faced were as mediocre as they come. You're talking two totally lopsided match-ups where the opposition could barely hold onto the puck even on the power play. He hasn't faced anything close to a real challenge and I'm not saying he won't deliver when it comes but if these two lopsided wins is all it takes to convince you, then I guess a lot of y'all are even more irrational than I thought. Again, I wish him the best and I hope he improves and I've said all along that I hope he can get back to "Dominator" form as few can compete with it, I think it's still a bit too early to assess where he's really at. I'm not trying to rain on the parade either, I'm just saying, rational responses don't make you any less of a fan. "Men against boys" isn't a strong enough statement about these games. Give it time. Hasek is the better goalie. People don't just lose it over a 3 month span. If he had showed signs that it was the beginning of the end last season, I'd be more inclined to believe that he's lost it. But he was just fine last year, he had a very good playoff, and he got off to a slow start, which people blew up into something a lot worse than it was. He's starting to play a lot better now, and he's going to be this team's goalie in the playoffs. The sooner people realize it, the better. It's nothing against Osgood--he's been outstanding and if he ends up on the All-Star team, it's well deserved--but if Hasek is healthy, he's going to be this team's goalie in the post-season. Because the guy still has it. And from reading peoples' reactions tonight, it looks like he made at least 6 or 7 big stops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
96warrior 11 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Babcock said in the post game show that Hasek is in goal for Carolina and Osgood is in goal for Nashville. He said after that he will probably alternate them. He said Hasek is playing Sunday because of Osgood's record against Nashville. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omnipotent_hudler 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 that move by Hasek had me laughing uncontrollably. That being said, why is it that 2 games in a row where the opposition plays pretty lackluster and barely challenges Hasek equates to him "being back"? Get back to me when he steals a game for us; until then Osgood is the number one goalie plan and simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 These two games were the perfect medicine, and I believe the next game he gets, they can throw the kitchen sink at him and it won't matter. Playing against the kitchen sink might leave Dom a little drained though, dont ya think? And what if Mark Faucette were to ref this game? Obvious favoritism towards the sink. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Noodle 39 14 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Hasek is the better goalie. People don't just lose it over a 3 month span. If he had showed signs that it was the beginning of the end last season, I'd be more inclined to believe that he's lost it. But he was just fine last year, he had a very good playoff, and he got off to a slow start, which people blew up into something a lot worse than it was. He's starting to play a lot better now, and he's going to be this team's goalie in the playoffs. The sooner people realize it, the better. It's nothing against Osgood--he's been outstanding and if he ends up on the All-Star team, it's well deserved--but if Hasek is healthy, he's going to be this team's goalie in the post-season. Because the guy still has it. And from reading peoples' reactions tonight, it looks like he made at least 6 or 7 big stops. Completely agree. Osgood has been solid but Dom always starts off slow and when he's on Hasek is spectacular! And i have always said it but i will say it again.. when it comes playoff time Dom is the man and if i was a coach I'm going with a spectacular goalie over a solid goalie any day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Perhaps...but you have to admit that Minnesota had a hell of a lot more quality chances that Dom stopped than Montreal did. Dom really made some fantastic saves tonight. And before you say anything, I've been one of his detractors as of late, so if I think he played well, I ain't sugarcoating things. And flipping Gaborik was just the icing on the cake. Like I said, I'm not saying he played bad. I'm not remotely disappointed with anything related to Hasek in terms of the last two games and the hit was great. Generally speaking though, you could double Minnesota's good chances and amp up the "good" and it's still not half of what he'll face against a descent team in a good game. If you're worth league minimum money, you better only be letting in 1 goal at most in games like these. Now jack the price up to $4 million and play him against some real teams in real games and see if he's worth it. You have to be objective about this: with Osgood playing as well as he is for under a million, even if Hasek manages to squeak by and play a little better, why are we paying $4 million for absolutely minute advantages? Instead, you've got another $3 million to pour into your offense or stacking the D up more than it is. I see a lot more upside on putting that money towards the skaters at this point. That's been a sticking point for me since Osgood's returned in general. Granted, we weren't paying Legace much, none the less, when you have a goalie as capable as Osgood has proven to be, why not role with him and see how it goes and put money elsewhere and see if you have an issue come trade deadline. Given that we never really have had rational reasons to blame the goalies for playoff defeats (sans Legace who shared an equal role) I don't see the harm. It feels like it's more about the hype of having a big name goalie than addressing what we actually need. To recap, if either goalie can play as well as Osgood has or we suspect Dom is capable of, what's the point of paying Dom $4 million a year? His best last year wasn't much better than Osgood's consistently been this year. To bring it back home, considering that, there's no way I can get jazzed up over these last two victories. He better play infinitely better than Osgood for the move not to be a bust in my book. That's not even so much a knock at Dom as the situation. In the cap era, if you can get it done for $1 million, it's stupid to pay someone else $4 million. It's as simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 (edited) HANNKKK! He was amazing tonight. As was most of the team. Aaron and Todd fighting was fantabulous. I love how they just get right outta the box and go at it. It was so obvious that was going to happen. Downey is just damn amazing! Haven't felt this good since we had D-Mac. Good game by Dom. I loved the hit by Dom as well, BUT he did deserve the penalty. Right as Gaborik was coming Dom pushed out his legs and tripped him. It was great to see though! But man Gaborik could of broke his neck with the way he flipped over...YIKES. GO WINGS!!! Edited December 8, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Like I said, I'm not saying he played bad. I'm not remotely disappointed with anything related to Hasek in terms of the last two games and the hit was great. Generally speaking though, you could double Minnesota's good chances and amp up the "good" and it's still not half of what he'll face against a descent team in a good game. If you're worth league minimum money, you better only be letting in 1 goal at most in games like these. Now jack the price up to $4 million and play him against some real teams in real games and see if he's worth it. You have to be objective about this: with Osgood playing as well as he is for under a million, even if Hasek manages to squeak by and play a little better, why are we paying $4 million for absolutely minute advantages? Instead, you've got another $3 million to pour into your offense or stacking the D up more than it is. I see a lot more upside on putting that money towards the skaters at this point. That's been a sticking point for me since Osgood's returned in general. Granted, we weren't paying Legace much, none the less, when you have a goalie as capable as Osgood has proven to be, why not role with him and see how it goes and put money elsewhere and see if you have an issue come trade deadline. Given that we never really have had rational reasons to blame the goalies for playoff defeats (sans Legace who shared an equal role) I don't see the harm. It feels like it's more about the hype of having a big name goalie than addressing what we actually need. To recap, if either goalie can play as well as Osgood has or we suspect Dom is capable of, what's the point of paying Dom $4 million a year? His best last year wasn't much better than Osgood's consistently been this year. To bring it back home, considering that, there's no way I can get jazzed up over these last two victories. He better play infinitely better than Osgood for the move not to be a bust in my book. That's not even so much a knock at Dom as the situation. In the cap era, if you can get it done for $1 million, it's stupid to pay someone else $4 million. It's as simple as that. I think maybe we should just enjoy having both of them playing so well that the rest of the league trembles in fear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Packer487 3 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 That's been a sticking point for me since Osgood's returned in general. Granted, we weren't paying Legace much, none the less, when you have a goalie as capable as Osgood has proven to be, why not role with him and see how it goes and put money elsewhere and see if you have an issue come trade deadline. Given that we never really have had rational reasons to blame the goalies for playoff defeats (sans Legace who shared an equal role) I don't see the harm. It feels like it's more about the hype of having a big name goalie than addressing what we actually need. To recap, if either goalie can play as well as Osgood has or we suspect Dom is capable of, what's the point of paying Dom $4 million a year? His best last year wasn't much better than Osgood's consistently been this year. To bring it back home, considering that, there's no way I can get jazzed up over these last two victories. He better play infinitely better than Osgood for the move not to be a bust in my book. That's not even so much a knock at Dom as the situation. In the cap era, if you can get it done for $1 million, it's stupid to pay someone else $4 million. It's as simple as that. Yeah, let's roll with the guy who has won two playoff series since 1998 and 0 since 2000 over arguably the best goalie in history, who had like a .928 in the playoffs last year. Good thinkin'... Isn't Dom getting like $2.5 this year anyway? He might have a $4 million cap hit, but some of that was incentives from last year when he nearly helped us to the damn Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted December 8, 2007 That move by dom is why i hate him so much. The game was settled. I would have gladly given up a goal instead of almost breaking Gaboriks neck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 HANNKKK! He was amazing tonight. As was most of the team. Aaron and Todd fighting was fantabulous. I love how they just get right outta the box and go at it. It was so obvious that was going to happen. Downey is just damn amazing! Haven't felt this good since we had D-Mac. Good game by Dom. I loved the hit by Dom as well, BUT he did deserve the penalty. Right as Gaborik was coming Dom pushed out his legs and tripped him. It was great to see though! But man Gaborik could of broke his neck with the way he flipped over...YIKES. GO WINGS!!! Gaborik should have been watching where he was going. I wish I could have seen this one, but a good friend just called and said she is putting the game on a DVD for me. Yay!! I'm happy now. Who wants a copy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Someone put it on youtube. The Hasek hit that is. Here ya go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-VuF8KL4Ug...ad.php?t=451517 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Yeah, let's roll with the guy who has won two playoff series since 1998 and 0 since 2000 over arguably the best goalie in history, who had like a .928 in the playoffs last year. Good thinkin'... Isn't Dom getting like $2.5 this year anyway? He might have a $4 million cap hit, but some of that was incentives from last year when he nearly helped us to the damn Cup. IMO Dom was the main reason we lost to anaheim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 That move by dom is why i hate him so much. The game was settled. I would have gladly given up a goal instead of almost breaking Gaboriks neck. IMO Dom was the main reason we lost to anaheim. yet again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 yet again... Loooo look up a couple posts. I found the clip for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted December 8, 2007 yet again... HEY LOOK I CAN DO THIS TO How about backing up your opinions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Loooo look up a couple posts. I found the clip for you. you're faster than me, Reem, thanks! Gabby knows better than to watch the puck and not the man, but he wasn't expecting...that. Well, perhaps he should have been, considering it's not the first time Dom's done that move. And won't be the last. Like it or not (I do), that is Hasek into the game. Good news for the Wings. When he's tentative and backed into the crease, then we can worry again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 Playing against the kitchen sink might leave Dom a little drained though, dont ya think? And what if Mark Faucette were to ref this game? Obvious favoritism towards the sink. Oh Lou- I just can't fight back the laughter with you. you're faster than me, Reem, thanks! Gabby knows better than to watch the puck and not the man, but he wasn't expecting...that. Well, perhaps he should have been, considering it's not the first time Dom's done that move. And won't be the last. Like it or not (I do), that is Hasek into the game. Good news for the Wings. When he's tentative and backed into the crease, then we can worry again. Agreed- that move gave me hope. Vintage Hasek. Hasek wins games by being a raving loonie not by sitting back in the net! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 (edited) Hasek is the s***. I felt happy with my Hasek jersey on tonight at the game. I nearly jumped out of my seat after he made that move - it was ******* amazing. Edited December 8, 2007 by Z and D for the C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lfd250 1 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 The only bad thing tonight is a bunch of fans got stuck in the elevator going to cobo roof parking. Just heard it on the fire scanner. (Well half hour ago) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omnipotent_hudler 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 That move by dom is why i hate him so much. The game was settled. I would have gladly given up a goal instead of almost breaking Gaboriks neck. interesting thought, if Gaborik had broken his neck would the league have take action against Hasek? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Swift 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2007 HEY LOOK I CAN DO THIS TO How about backing up your opinions? Alright, how about this: Without Hasek, we simply do not win Game 1 of the Anaheim series. Furthermore, he carried a 1.78 GAA and .923 SP% through the post-season. And I think it's pretty clear that series was lost when the game was tied in the dying seconds of Game 5, and I don't know how you could ever blame Dom for that goal. And are you honestly whining about Dom's poke-check? Seriously. If you don't like Hasek, that's your problem, but try to be reasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted December 8, 2007 I have Dom's spectacular save on HDD. I just don't have the equipment to transfer it to PC. =( Ken and Micky already called it. This highlight save will be all around the world. It's def the play of the month! Dom 4 Prez!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites