T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 I know dude, this is why I have to post videos of this TOOL so people can realize that he actually sucks at hockey. He is not playing hockey, he his playing some version of WWF/roller derby on skates. The main thing is that he has no respect for anyone. You can hate each other out on the ice, but still have respect. Chris Chelios is hated but respected. McCarty will fight as hard as he can like his friends life depends on it, then comes at the end, he taps the guy on the back shoulder as says good fight. Thats what its all about. Its a game, its got rules and parameters and tradition. Tootoo doesn't get it. Finishing a check isn't lining up a guy from 40 feet away and leaving the ice to blindside him at 25mph plus. Especially when you just left a wide open spot on the ice to do it. Thats bad hockey. The guy has no character, no brains. In the lockerroom and on the ice, the other guys are embarrassed of his tactics. Thats why in the video there wasn't a big brawl after the little puke got clotheslined, just an obligatory bear hug, his teammates weren't about to stick up for him, they know he's a major ass and a disgrace. It will never happen because the Red Wings organization is not stupid enough to get Jordon Tootoo. He is nothing but a liability in every sense of the word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 ...may have been a charge, may have been a dive. Neither of which sets him apart from 50% of the league... Actually it does. If 50% of the league were doing what Tootoo did, it wouldn't even be hockey anymore. He is a part of a small group. Marginal players with limited to no skills at the NHL level, who keep their place in the lineup by running and/or jumping guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_mcgrath88 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 Would love him here.. he's putting up better numbers than our 4th line guys.. plus he's a lot more exciting then old man Drake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 HELL NO. All the reasons why he is complete scum have already been said, so i'll spare you. The only people I can think of that would love Tootoo in a Wings jersey are people that know absolutely nothing about hockey at all. But it will never happen, so I'm not going to get too worked up about this. you are right..the only people that like him know nothing about hockey..thats why he's playing in the nhl because the people that sign him know nothing about hockey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) He is not playing hockey, he his playing some version of WWF/roller derby on skates. The main thing is that he has no respect for anyone. You can hate each other out on the ice, but still have respect. Chris Chelios is hated but respected. McCarty will fight as hard as he can like his friends life depends on it, then comes at the end, he taps the guy on the back shoulder as says good fight. Thats what its all about. Its a game, its got rules and parameters and tradition. Tootoo doesn't get it. Finishing a check isn't lining up a guy from 40 feet away and leaving the ice to blindside him at 25mph plus. Especially when you just left a wide open spot on the ice to do it. Thats bad hockey. The guy has no character, no brains. In the lockerroom and on the ice, the other guys are embarrassed of his tactics. Thats why in the video there wasn't a big brawl after the little puke got clotheslined, just an obligatory bear hug, his teammates weren't about to stick up for him, they know he's a major ass and a disgrace. It will never happen because the Red Wings organization is not stupid enough to get Jordon Tootoo. He is nothing but a liability in every sense of the word. More insight: Tootoo Dumb To Play? - Andy Strickland, ESPN Edited January 30, 2008 by esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 yeah and everyone knows how his team mates feel about him because you are all friends with a friend with a friend who knows one of the players on nashville. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 yeah and everyone knows how his team mates feel about him because you are all friends with a friend with a friend who knows one of the players on nashville. Its called observation and analytical reasoning; you obviously got distracted by the "anal" part of it, hence your reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 yeah and everyone knows how his team mates feel about him because you are all friends with a friend with a friend who knows one of the players on nashville. NHL players from a lot of teams have come out in public calling him dirty. But what do they know, they're just actual players, not genius message board addicts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 wow..personal attacks now. hahahahahaha kids Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 NHL players from a lot of teams have come out in public calling him dirty. But what do they know, they're just actual players, not genius message board addicts. oh and what are the ones that sign him to contracts?..oh thats right..not as smart as the geniuses on this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 wow..personal attacks now. hahahahahaha kids Not an attack, just an observation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 you know the funny part is i agree with most what you guys are saying...its just funny how just one thing can set you off...hahahaha. although i still would like a hard working player that would fight for our team every night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topshelf40 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 We are already the most hated team in the NHL for our success so why not add Tootoo. When the Wings played the Ducks last week they sent a message as if they are to meet in the play-offs (which they both will be in) then the Wings have to realize that it is going to be hell. Message sent IMO. It's a regular season win for the Wings, could they handle that type of game over a 7 game series is the point. The Wings can't. Did the Wings not have two or three players leave the game for cripes sake? The Ducks tossed the Wings around like ragdolls. Certainly something that Holland has to address before the deadline and probably will. HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU but the Ducks are the NHL's most physical team and the Wings are probably the least physical team. Sure that works in the regular season but the play-offs are a different beast. I had to take a second look at the name of this line just to make sure I wasn't seeing things. What self-respecting Detroit fan would want Tootoo in Winged-wheel jersey?! It would be an insult to the history of the team, Detroit dosen't need a trashy cheap ***** like him, EVER. Dosen't matter if we're the most hated team in the NHL, at least it's because we beat everyone. It would be a sad day if Tootoo came to Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 you know the funny part is i agree with most what you guys are saying...its just funny how just one thing can set you off...hahahaha. although i still would like a hard working player that would fight for our team every night. I don't think anyone here would disagree about the desire for hard working player that would fight for the Wings every night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 oh and what are the ones that sign him to contracts?..oh thats right..not as smart as the geniuses on this board. The ones that signed Tootoo adhere to a very different school of thought than the Red Wings, a different idea of what type of team they want to put on the ice, which is why I am a big Wings fan and not a Preds fan. Kinda like Gary Bettman, not dumb, just has really bad ideas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) You need to watch the tape. Robidas was coming in relatively slowly, with his gloves and stick up. Most players turn around and get their gloves and stick up, then decide if they're gonna square off. Tootoo did his usual b.s. of jumping a guy. It was a suckerpunch. He brings very little to the table, isn't defensively responsible, and is a dirty player. No thanks. If you hate that kind of play, then you'd definitely hate this play. Edited January 30, 2008 by RedFX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 If you hate that kind of play, then you'd definitely hate this play. <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value=" name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> You get an extra 2 minutes for trolling because you obviously weren't serious in trying to compare McCarty going after the Turtle to Tootoo going head hunting on a random basis. Thanks, its always good to see that video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 If you hate that kind of play, then you'd definitely hate this play. are you asking if my feeling towards Tootoo are similar to those towards Turtle. yes. I hate them both passionately as the prime example of whiny cowards who try to injure other players and turtle when someone wants to take them accountable. truth being said, Lemieux had some offensive skills and was a contributor. and he was a strong player in playoffs. I hate him but I don't fail to give him what is due. he was a significant part of those teams he played for. Tootoo... is just a dumb ass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 You get an extra 2 minutes for trolling because you obviously weren't serious in trying to compare McCarty going after the Turtle to Tootoo going head hunting on a random basis. Thanks, its always good to see that video. Why? It looks like the same situation. Lemieux was just skating by, not looking for a fight, and McCarty clocks him with his glove on. Looks like the same play to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 are you asking if my feeling towards Tootoo are similar to those towards Turtle. yes. I hate them both passionately as the prime example of whiny cowards who try to injure other players and turtle when someone wants to take them accountable. truth being said, Lemieux had some offensive skills and was a contributor. and he was a strong player in playoffs. I hate him but I don't fail to give him what is due. he was a significant part of those teams he played for. Tootoo... is just a dumb ass I was comparing Tootoo's hit on Robidas to McCarty's hit on Lemieux. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) If you hate that kind of play, then you'd definitely hate this play. Personally I would've gone with a young Chris Chelios' flying elbow on Propp, but you may not know about that one. Aside from the fact that there's a totally different context than what McCarty was doing, we're not talking about one isolated incident here with Tootoo. It's a pattern of cheapshots and jumping guys to "fight" them before they can even get their gloves off. And even if you had used Chelios's cheapshot, he's still a Norris winning defenseman and talented player. Put him on the fourth line with Tootoo's minutes and even at 46 he'd still probably have more goals (and be more responsible defensively). Tootoo is a marginal player who earns his keep by running guys and throwing cheapshots. Edited January 30, 2008 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 Personally I would've gone with a young Chris Chelios' flying elbow on Propp, but you may not know about that one. Aside from the fact that there's a totally different context than what McCarty was doing, we're not talking about one isolated incident here with Tootoo. It's a pattern of cheapshots and jumping guys to "fight" them before they can even get their gloves off. And even if you had used Chelios's cheapshot, he's still a Norris winning defenseman and talented player. Put him on the fourth line with Tootoo's minutes and even at 46 he'd still probably have more goals (and be more responsible defensively). Tootoo is a marginal player who earns his keep by running guys and throwing cheapshots. That instance aside, what other "cheapshot" has Tootoo committed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 yeah you are right..as long as they are star players and are good at the game its fine for them to throw the elbows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwinLove40 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 you are right..the only people that like him know nothing about hockey..thats why he's playing in the nhl because the people that sign him know nothing about hockey. Um, helloooo it's called EXAGGERATION! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 That instance aside, what other "cheapshot" has Tootoo committed? Early in his NHL career, he also bit a guy during an altercation. It's not like I'm making this up out of nowhere. There used to be a video on youtube where they did a piece on Tootoo, and they various guys around the league were saying how he was a dirty player. Some even went so far as to say he'd get what was coming to him. Then there's his most common fight technique. Jump the guy before he even has a chance to get his gloves off and start swinging. If you ask most hockey fans (outside of Nashville) who the dirtiest players around the league are, Tootoo is gonna be on that list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
