Thrashers priority is to re-sign Hossa...

[jim3033 1]

I doubt the Wings will get Hossa. If he doesn't get dealt by the trade deadline it would be cool to imagine a second line with Brunnstrom and Hossa on it. Looks like the Wings have their eyes on LA though. When do all the GM's meet? Feb 15th?

[FinRedWing 172]

I would love to get him. We'd for sure have to give up Flip for him. He is probably the only player I'd give up Flip up for though.

NFM #25 will be surprised,but so would I.

I'd also give up Filppula for Jokinen.

[FinRedWing 172]

I wasn't implying they're "trash"; what I meant was they don't have enough trade value to get a guy like Hossa. Everyone thinks the Wings can just throw our expendable players away to get a superstar. They can't.

I know you weren't implying it,I was just posting my thoughts and happened to use your "trash" word.

[shadder 0]

Lifelong Red Wings fal living in Atlanta checking in here. First off, you have to understand that DW lies nearly as much as Bush does. He's been scouting Monteal heavy the past week or so yet in a local interview he said that he had no discussions at all with Montreal and there was nothing going on there. Second keep in mind that this teram is operated on a shoestring. When Hartley was let go at the start of the season DW was named head coach mainly because they are still paying Hartley and could not afford to hire a new Head Coach. Not too long ado the President / CEO of the team left and the owners said that they would step in to fill that role. Once again, this was most likely so as to save money. The team is likely not going to make the playoffs, I think that the best they have been all season is one or two games over .500. Bottom line, there is really not much chance of Hossa staying here and everybody pretty much knows it at this point. Most people are starting to get sick of the whole thing and just want it over with one way or the other. My gut feeling is the the Red Wings really don't want this guy only because he has a history of not showing up in the playoffs.And thats the last thing that we need right now. Also, it would have to be some sort of a sign and trade deal otherwise he would only be a rental.

[kylee 727]

First off, you have to understand that DW lies nearly as much as Bush does.

is he as scandalous as Clinton was, too?

[Bluedevils_13 0]

Even though it's not going to take as much to get him this time, around the Thrashers had to give up Heatley and Greg DeVries to get Hossa...can we honestly match that? That fact is the first team to shell out what the Thrashers need, a playmaking center (or any sort of center), will probably be the one to land Hossa.

That said I'm all for Lilja and a 4th for Hossa.

[Dano33 41]

Even though it's not going to take as much to get him this time, around the Thrashers had to give up Heatley and Greg DeVries to get Hossa...can we honestly match that? That fact is the first team to shell out what the Thrashers need, a playmaking center (or any sort of center), will probably be the one to land Hossa.

That said I'm all for Lilja and a 4th for Hossa.

Was that neccessary?

[kylee 727]

Even though it's not going to take as much to get him this time, around the Thrashers had to give up Heatley and Greg DeVries to get Hossa...can we honestly match that? That fact is the first team to shell out what the Thrashers need, a playmaking center (or any sort of center), will probably be the one to land Hossa.

That said I'm all for Lilja and a 4th for Hossa.

robert lang

for

marian hossa?????

[Superman54 91]

meh they wont sign him

but the wings will in the off season!

[Duck Guy 86]

If Hossa wants a shot at the cup it would unwise of him to stay in the ATL.

[#19=Legend 29]

If Hossa wants a shot at the cup it would unwise of him to stay in the ATL.

For real?? Damn, I never would have thought.

[rwfan007 18]

thats what they said about players in Anaheim, Carolina, and Tampa Bay

I know, its hard to look at... but here is something to whet your whistle

Edited February 14, 2008 by rwfan007

[Duck Guy 86]

For real?? Damn, I never would have thought.

just saying there is no point for the thrashers to even try to sign him if he wants to win. He already rejected them i say trade him!

Edited February 14, 2008 by Duck Guy

[StaticWithABeat 0]

Hossa is sounding a lot like Luongo during his final season in Florida...I predict he ends up in San Jose.

[MacK_Attack 108]

Hossa is sounding a lot like Luongo during his final season in Florida...I predict he ends up in San Jose.

I could see that, in return for a package including Marleau.

Btw I love it when in these trade-threads Sammy,Lebda,Hudler & Co are "trash",but in "Sammy has to learn how to shoot" type of threads they are very valuable members of the best team in the NHL.

Teams don't want a whole bunch of average in return for elite players. They want top-end talent, or top-end potential in return.

Edited February 14, 2008 by MacK_Attack

[ben_usmc 253]

not that I'm saying Hudler, meech, or sammy could get a ton. But just as much as some overvalue them I think others undervalue. Sammy was a decent scorer with decent d and is extremely cheap. Hudler doesn't get much icetime but up until recently showed he can put the puck in the net with limited min., lastly meech ANY defensive player that is coming from Detroit probably gets much more looks then other teams, though I don't think that would get us Hossa I'm just saying

[Opie 308]

I am not sure why I bring this up so much because no one seems to remember it, but here I go again for the 80th time.

The year Joe Thornton won the Art Ross (2006) he was traded from Boston for:

Brad Stuart

Wayne Primeau

Marco Sturm

Hossa is not winning the Art Ross this year, and in my opinion

Lilja < Stuart (While I think Lils is a slightly better defensive defenseman, he doesn't bring the physical and on the edge play)

Flip = Primeau (Flip has more potential though)

Sammy = Sturm (neither is much of a top scoring threat but hold their own with 2nd line minutes)

The Bruins for some unknown reason wanted to get rid of Thornton who was probably the games best player that year. And is still one of the top 5 in the league. Hossa is not at the level Thornton was that year or is still at, so to say that Hossa could be landed for Sammy, Flip, and Lilja is not that far fetched if you use past history as a reference point.

Do I think it will happen, more than likely not, but for any of us to sit here and say that for a fact the Thrash are looking for more than the wings want, or that a player of his magnitude would demand top shelf talent in return (Heatley Hossa trade as an example) is all speculation and guess work in white coats.

[Dano33 41]

I am not sure why I bring this up so much because no one seems to remember it, but here I go again for the 80th time.

The year Joe Thornton won the Art Ross (2006) he was traded from Boston for:

Brad Stuart

Wayne Primeau

Marco Sturm

Hossa is not winning the Art Ross this year, and in my opinion

Lilja < Stuart (While I think Lils is a slightly better defensive defenseman, he doesn't bring the physical and on the edge play)

Flip = Primeau (Flip has more potential though)

Sammy = Sturm (neither is much of a top scoring threat but hold their own with 2nd line minutes)

The Bruins for some unknown reason wanted to get rid of Thornton who was probably the games best player that year. And is still one of the top 5 in the league. Hossa is not at the level Thornton was that year or is still at, so to say that Hossa could be landed for Sammy, Flip, and Lilja is not that far fetched if you use past history as a reference point.

Do I think it will happen, more than likely not, but for any of us to sit here and say that for a fact the Thrash are looking for more than the wings want, or that a player of his magnitude would demand top shelf talent in return (Heatley Hossa trade as an example) is all speculation and guess work in white coats.

You're right, we probably won't get Hossa for those guys. I think the difference between these two situations though is the Thornwon deal was at the beginning of the year without much talk of Thornton being on the trading block. Hossa is now widely known to be on the block near the trade deadline with a lot of teams interested. I guess what im saying is, if there was any chance of getting hossa for those guys, it would have to be out of nowhere when noone else was interested yet.

[Opie 308]

Very valid points Dano, and I am not saying this trade will happen, but some "experts" on here seem to think that the only way to get a guy of that caliber is to sell the farm or trade big name for big name.

My point was that trades like these can happen!

Oh and not too mention they are atop the south least, uh sorry South East!

Edited February 14, 2008 by Opie

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Just because Boston made a stupid ass trade doesn't mean that other teams will do one also.

[Zion 93]

Atlanta will accept nothing less than Lidstrom and Draper.

Problem: They have no-trade clauses.

Solution: They will waive them. Win-win-win situation. (See Michael Scott)

[Opie 308]

Just because Boston made a stupid ass trade doesn't mean that other teams will do one also.

True but it has happened in the past, and with more teams than just Boston.

You mean to tell me that no team in the recent years (salary cap) has made dumb trades?

Seriously?

Thrashers trades of this past off season comes to mind!

[Opie 308]

Atlanta will accept nothing less than Lidstrom and Draper.

Problem: They have no-trade clauses.

Solution: They will waive them. Win-win-win situation. (See Michael Scott)

NO ONE and I do mean NO ONE in the league expects to get LIDS!!!!!!!!!!!

so I have to assume you were being sarcastic.

[rwfan007 18]

I will quote myself on this one...

you people have to remember that Waddel is not packing it in for the season, they still have a shot at the post season, so he is going to want someone who can help them make a run in the playoffs. that is not going to be sammy/meech/hudler.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

True but it has happened in the past, and with more teams than just Boston.

You mean to tell me that no team in the recent years (salary cap) has made dumb trades?

Seriously?

Thrashers trades of this past off season comes to mind!

No one has made a trade recently as bad as that Boston trade. That trade was just a disaster that should have gotten the entire management fired and executed.