Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 If its like me than the answer is not much...Cheechoo-Thornton=Crappy... BUT Waddell will need to do something to prevent a bashing by the eniter city of Atlanta, and he also has said that if the offers can't help them this year it may not happen. So we'll see. You put that way on the side of extreme. Hockey is not that popular in Atlanta, and from what I hear, the local media barely covers it at all. This is despite the fact that every other Atlanta sports team sucks, and the Thrashers are probably the best ones there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 How is it a weak argument? Right at the moment this team is in shambles... we look worse than the Leafs. What player with any say would want to come into an uncertain situation when they have the choice of a surging team in Anaheim... Its a bery sound argument, and one I'm sad is a reality. Because before these injuries the Wings were by far the best team in the league, and the only player that MAY not be back for the start of the playoffs is Cleary...everyone else will be back and I think that once that happens the Wings will once again be playing like the best team in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awingsincebirth 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 How is it a weak argument? Right at the moment this team is in shambles... we look worse than the Leafs. What player with any say would want to come into an uncertain situation when they have the choice of a surging team in Anaheim... Its a bery sound argument, and one I'm sad is a reality. I don't know man, I guess I'm just not sure where you are getting this uncertainty from. Yes, we have injuries. These players will all be back well in time for the playoffs, except for Cleary, who will also be back in time. Are you saying that it is uncertain because they might get injured again? Because as I said before, any player from any team can get injured, and many of them have had injuries in their past. One time injuries are not a reason to look past a team. Or are you uncertain because you think that, even healthy, this team is not a solid contender? Because then I just respectfully disagree. I just really don't see where the uncertainty comes from, and if you could explain it to me, I would probably see better where you are coming from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted February 24, 2008 You put that way on the side of extreme. Hockey is not that popular in Atlanta, and from what I hear, the local media barely covers it at all. This is despite the fact that every other Atlanta sports team sucks, and the Thrashers are probably the best ones there. Saying that, the reason why Waddell made the moves at the deadline last year is because he promised to make the playoffs, if he didn't he would have been fired. I can see him making a move for someone with more impact then Filppula right now. Anyways Eklund (ya i know), has Sundin's list of 3 teams down to Anaheim, Detroit, Montreal. Should hear an answer on that front before Toronto's plane leaves for Ottawa tomorrow at 3 pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 768 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Because before these injuries the Wings were by far the best team in the league, and the only player that MAY not be back for the start of the playoffs is Cleary...everyone else will be back and I think that once that happens the Wings will once again be playing like the best team in the league. How do you know that? Its just as likely that these guys will be rusty, or depending on the injury more prone to getting re-injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted February 24, 2008 So what happened to that f***** that came in here and said "Anybody hear Holland's post game comments", did he just come in here to say that and get everybody riled up!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awingsincebirth 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) So what happened to that f***** that came in here and said "Anybody hear Holland's post game comments", did he just come in here to say that and get everybody riled up!? Maybe it WAS Ken Holland! Edit: Hey CanadianWings, how do you change that little blurb that you can write underneathe your avatars. (Like where yours says "Trade Me")?? Edited February 24, 2008 by awingsincebirth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) Saying that, the reason why Waddell made the moves at the deadline last year is because he promised to make the playoffs, if he didn't he would have been fired. I can see him making a move for someone with more impact then Filppula right now. Anyways Eklund (ya i know), has Sundin's list of 3 teams down to Anaheim, Detroit, Montreal. Should hear an answer on that front before Toronto's plane leaves for Ottawa tomorrow at 3 pm. I agree. I think that Waddell is still on the hot seat in Atlanta, especially because their 5 year plans keep becoming 6/7/8 year plans to be a contender. He needs results that are both long term and immediate, and to be honest I think part of why Hossa wants out is because he doesn't have faith that Atlanta can ever build a contender. That being said, if Waddell trades Hossa, and they fail to make the playoffs, he may be filing for unemployment checks in June. I think that the Wings just don't have the goods to make a competitive offer for a player like Hossa in a scenario like Atlanta is in. And in terms of the Holland-Waddell friendship, which do you think he cares more about, his job, or helping his friends team win...I'd say his job...Just like Kevin Lowe...so regardless of my feelings on if I want Hossa to come here, I don't think he will soley due to circumstances... Edited February 24, 2008 by russianswede919293 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Maybe it WAS Ken Holland! Edit: Hey CanadianWings, how do you change that little blurb that you can write underneathe your avatars. (Like where yours says "Trade Me")?? My controls > edit profile information Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 How do you know that? Its just as likely that these guys will be rusty, or depending on the injury more prone to getting re-injured. I don't but nobody knows if they will or will not. Going off what the doctors have said in terms of timelines for these injuries I have no reason to doubt that they will be healthy come playoffs. And who says that if he goes to Anaheim there is no chance Neidermayer and Selanne get hurt, since they aren't in game shape yet due to late starts...nobody... Its a chance you take, any player has just a good of a chance of an injury as any other player in the league. You just need to look at what the roster should be at the time of the playoffs. And these guys should be back. And with no reason to doubt that I see the team as the best in the league again come playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 I'm asoory, not to be rude, but I completely agree with you, for the most part. Now, I do agree something does look off about Z. He still doesn;t look himself, a little slower, a bit too hesitant, and doesn't shoot as much. BUT, Datsyuk has not played bad... In fact, he was the ONLY Red Wing that I noticed giving 100%effort all night long.... every time I blinked an eye the guy was on the ice tryin to produce stuff, set up plays and etc. he is doing everything he should, but its the players around him that are screwing it up... they aren't getting his passes and stuff. I notice he flew back for the back-check, was one of the only wings to win puck battles consistantly, and, I thought, was very good in the face off circle. ( I would like to know why Babs put Z as centre over Pavel before anyways... I always thought Pavel is he btter centre). Overall, with the team right now... Datsyuk is basically the only player that is trying all game long... so I think things will be much like this until Rafi (San Jose game return), Kronners (Tues), and Dom (likely San Jose gaame return) are back. And then things will REALLY pick up when Captain Nick returns on March 9. So, until then I see Pavel the one trying all game.. but maybe other wings will finally pick it up too... GO WINGS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted February 24, 2008 I agree. I think that Waddell is still on the hot stove in Atlanta, especially because their 5 year plans keep becoming 6/7/8 year plans to be a contender. He needs results that are both long term and immediate, and to be honest I think part of why Hossa wants out is because he doesn't have faith that Atlanta can ever build a contender. That being said, if Waddell trades Hossa, and they fail to make the playoffs, he may be filing for unemployment checks in June. I think that the Wings just don't have the goods to make a competitive offer for a player like Hossa in a scenario like Atlanta is in. And in terms of the Holland-Waddell friendship, which do you think he cares more about, his job, or helping his friends team win...I'd say his job...Just like Kevin Lowe...so regardless of my feelings on if I want Hossa to come here, I don't think he will soley due to circumstances... Filppula + Sammy + 2nd rounder? f*** i'd start doing jumping jacks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 How much longer is Raffi out? I thought he was supposed to be back on the trip here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awingsincebirth 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Ballin, thanks buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted February 24, 2008 How much longer is Raffi out? I thought he was supposed to be back on the trip here another week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Filppula + Sammy + 2nd rounder? f*** i'd start doing jumping jacks! Now lets say Ottawa offers Vermette + 1st rounder...I'd take that over Filppula + Sammy + 2nd rounder... or Montreal offers Streit and Ryder + a pick (as rumored on Spectors a few day back) I take that over Filpulla + Sammy + a 2nd Just in terms of this years help. Those 2 offers are more competitive than anything the Wings are going to offer. Thus I think IF Waddell sticks to his "must help this years chances" motif, the Wings cannot compete with other offers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awingsincebirth 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Alright people. Let's enjoy having a few days without a game. I know I will. Peace easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Alright people. Let's enjoy having a few days without a game. I know I will. Peace easy. THAT MEANS NO INJURIES!!!! Plus a trade deadline before we play next... maybe some new faces next game... Good night people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Now lets say Ottawa offers Vermette + 1st rounder...I'd take that over Filppula + Sammy + 2nd rounder... or Montreal offers Streit and Ryder + a pick (as rumored on Spectors a few day back) I take that over Filpulla + Sammy + a 2nd Just in terms of this years help. Those 2 offers are more competitive than anything the Wings are going to offer. Thus I think IF Waddell sticks to his "must help this years chances" motif, the Wings cannot compete with other offers. Ottawa said they wont offer there 1st in a trade because they host the draft this year and want to make a pick at home Atlanta wont take Ryder because he's a UFA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 I'm getting closer and closer to ordering Center Ice, and just start to watch the flyers. ive had enough of ***** play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown Red Wings 245 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) Yawn....so we lost again? I lost interest in the third period. Hey, at least we scored. Things will get better people... Edited February 24, 2008 by Hockeytown Red Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 I'm getting closer and closer to ordering Center Ice, and just start to watch the flyers. ive had enough of ***** play. you should do it I don't know how hockey fans can live without it... I've had it for 2 years and can't imagine going back... late night Calgary games, Anaheim games... so much more entertaining Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Expensive ainnit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Well, at least i won some money on the money line tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skacore 2 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Expensive ainnit? Well I just have an illegal satelite that picks it up... for 2 years now, no problems... all NHL games every night, every boxing event, UFC event, all new movies, porn lol, etc.... $200 upfront that's it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
