Rush 7 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Hello there from some one who reads daily for inside scoops but never decided to post untill now. On to my topic and something that honestly erks me a bit. Brian Burke, I don't like him very much. Yes he has done a good job manipulating the system this year, speaks his mind, and won 'a' cup. Good for him. The guy never did sh!t untill last year so why does he get so much credit for being such a 'mastermind? Not that hes done a bad job (obviously) since being in Anaheim, I just don't think he deserves to be hailed as much as he is around here, of all places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feldmarschall 9 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) I think he's pulled some highway robbery with his roster moves this season and really jerked the system around without any interference from the league, but it's a one-time thing and I highly doubt that his team has a guaranteed future as a perennial number one candidate. That said, I really can't stand the son of a *****. I hate how he looks, even. Edited February 24, 2008 by Feldmarschall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 The Ducks are highly favored to win the Cup. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 The Ducks are highly favored to win the Cup. End of story. And everyone (esp. Wings fans) know that means dick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rush 7 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 The Ducks are highly favored to win the Cup. End of story. There were no questions on who the favorite was all season long untill the Redwings recent run of poor play / bad luck. And the Ducks were horrible all season long untill they got Niedermayer back. As far as I'm concerned Niedermayer better not get hurt or there goes their chance. So all that is open for debate and it's kind of irrelevent who the current favorite / flavor of the week is. People are concerned with the end results, hes won one Cup, good for him now why is he hailed as being so great again after one season worth a damn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 He has won four Cups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rush 7 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 He has won four Cups. Oh? With who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swede40 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 He's won 1 Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericho613 74 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 I think Zion doesn't want anyone talking bad about his boyfriend. I will say this, it must be nice having two players fake retirement only to come in with two months before playoffs. Two players like that healthy and fresh going into the playoffs is a great boost. I don't know how they still have room under the cap to go after a guy like Sundin, Hossa, or Blake. Just my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Wow. As much as everyone hates to admit it, Brian Burke does know what he's doing. I'm not riding his coattails or anything, but it's unbelievable the amount of people on this forum that act like he got his GM job out of a cereal box. I hate Burke, but he knows how to manage an NHL team. Yeah, he's made some bad trades (McDonald for Weight, Bryzgalov for nothing), but he is still a decent GM in the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Sorry, got derailed thinking you were talking about Scotty Needavacation. And just because I think Burke has taken advantage of the system bringing he and Teemu back doesn't make him my boyfriend. Take your childish banter over to ESPN.com. There are plenty of ignorant trash-talkers over there. My point is simple: I'm really glad this ridiculous string of injuries is occuring now with our lead in the conference than in April, because the Ducks would absolutely destroy us right now. Here's to hoping we land Hossa and a big defenseman... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rush 7 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Wow. As much as everyone hates to admit it, Brian Burke does know what he's doing. I'm not riding his coattails or anything, but it's unbelievable the amount of people on this forum that act like he got his GM job out of a cereal box. I hate Burke, but he knows how to manage an NHL team. Yeah, he's made some bad trades (McDonald for Weight, Bryzgalov for nothing), but he is still a decent GM in the NHL. Don't get me wrong, I didn't say he was horrible and I tried to make that clear in my first post. But he dosen't deserve anywhere near the amount of praise he receives after one (1) successful year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 How long has he been the GM? I hate the Ducks so much that it had to be pointed out to me that they'd made the WCF for like 4 out of 5 seasons recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) Don't get me wrong, I didn't say he was horrible and I tried to make that clear in my first post. But he dosen't deserve anywhere near the amount of praise he receives after one (1) successful year. It's not you, it's the numerous other people on this forum that are too blinded by their own personal hate for him. Some of the people who have even gone as far as to say Burke is as bad a GM as JFJ was before he was fired in Toronto are mainly who I'm talking about. I'm not saying Burke is a great GM or anything, but he knows what he's doing. I don't agree with the way he runs things one bit, but he still knows how to do so. He's not some incompatant moron that can't even complete daily tasks, like many point him out to be on here. I hate Burke a lot. He's my least favorite GM in the league, and I think he's a f***ing ass. But, he still knows how to manage a hockey team; I won't deny that. Edited February 24, 2008 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rush 7 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 How long has he been the GM? I hate the Ducks so much that it had to be pointed out to me that they'd made the WCF for like 4 out of 5 seasons recently. This is his 3rd year with the Ducks. And the Ducks have been to the WCFinals 3 times total in their history, winning twice and Burke wasen't there for the first. So in his first two seasons hes made it to the WCF twice. In Holland's first two years he won back to back Cups. Of course I know the pieces were in place when he got the job, but likewise for Burke so how much credit does he really deserve? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 This is his 3rd year with the Ducks. And the Ducks have been to the WCFinals 3 times total in their history, winning twice and Burke wasen't there for the first. So in his first two seasons hes made it to the WCF twice. In Holland's first two years he won back to back Cups. Of course I know the pieces were in place when he got the job, but likewise for Burke so how much credit does he really deserve? Holland wasnt the GM for the 96-97 Cup, he took over the following year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rush 7 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Holland wasnt the GM for the 96-97 Cup, he took over the following year. I knew it was close around that time and I even looked it up before hand to be sure, and saw 97'. I assumed (I know, ass-u-me) 96 / 97 but I shoulda put two and two together and realized he woulnd't have started mid season of Yzerman's first Cup year. My mistake! But it's besides the point I was trying to make about Burke anyways;p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Good to know. I'm still trying to wrap my small mind around the statement that they still have cap space to make a trade. I know they have that 1st rounder everyone wants, and remember hearing that Bobby Ryan was possible trade bait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 Any time I get upset with Brian Burke I just imagine him as Brian Wilson and suddenly I'm not mad anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryMalredo 2 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 If I remember correctly, until last year's WCF, Burke was pretty popular around here for the gritty roster he put togheter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 All of this and just think what could have been had the Ducks had one draft pick higher in the post lockout draft lottery in 2005, and been able to draft.......Sidney Crosby. That would have been ridiculous, although they wouldn't have been able to afford QUITE the roster they have had with Sid's salary.......unless they just asked some one else to sit out, and for longer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rush 7 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 If I remember correctly, until last year's WCF, Burke was pretty popular around here for the gritty roster he put togheter. Although I can't speak for popular opinion from people 'around here', as I'm new to posting on these forums and prior to this I only browsed from time to time for various odd info and whatnot. But I always got the impression of a loud mouth sh!t talkin' hot head who just made himself look silly season after season with failure after failure in Vancouver, but somehow even in the face of all that failure he always had something to say. He was insignificant, no one cared what he thought, no one cared what he said, no one cared about what he did. Now all of a sudden after two seasons and one Cup in Anaheim hes a genius? I don't think so. I think with a lot of manipulation and a lot of luck is why hes at where he is. Honestly, you can call me crazy but without Niedermayer coming back this team is nothing, from the top (Brian Burke) to the bottom (George Parros) they are all just a bunch of hotheaded goons at heart who would self implode without the presence of Niedermayer keeping them composed. And admitidly, they are in fact very hard to beat when they are composed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 He's the best GM in the NHL. Dont quote me saying "No Kenny!!!!". Ken hasnt won a cup since 02, if he wins this year, I'd say he was the best GM. In any case, there 1-2 in the NHL as far as GM's go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 All of this and just think what could have been had the Ducks had one draft pick higher in the post lockout draft lottery in 2005, and been able to draft.......Sidney Crosby. That would have been ridiculous, although they wouldn't have been able to afford QUITE the roster they have had with Sid's salary.......unless they just asked some one else to sit out, and for longer.Nah, that was rigged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted February 24, 2008 He's the best GM in the NHL. Dont quote me saying "No Kenny!!!!". Ken hasnt won a cup since 02, if he wins this year, I'd say he was the best GM. In any case, there 1-2 in the NHL as far as GM's go. No way, Kenny is. I really believe that though. The Ducks are loaded and beat us last year, but in no way does that make Burke a better GM than Holland. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites