NHL Replay an option?

[CAredwingsfan91 28]

dont know if anyone posted this yet if someone has then sorry guys.

Blown calls on goals spark replay debate

Jason Smith

TSN.ca Staff

3/5/2008 8:56:52 PM

For the second time in a week, the National Hockey League is left trying to explain a deciding goal on a play that clearly should been blown dead by its officials.

On Tuesday, Derek Roy scored the game-winning goal on a 4-on-4 just 66 seconds into the third period in a 5-2 Buffalo Sabres win over the Philadelphia Flyers. Roy got in behind the Flyers' defence and broke in alone on Martin Biron, beating the goaltender on the stick side.

It was a highlight reel goal, but one that should have been disallowed because the Sabres had five skaters on the ice.

"It's unbelievable," said Flyers head coach John Stevens after the game. "Mental Lapse? The guy was on the ice by 60 feet. They had five guys on the ice.they totally missed the call."

"In that play last night, nobody said anything about too many men," NHL Senior VP and Director of Officiating Stephen Walkom told TSN on Wednesday. "Even if you could roll back the clock for when you have those situations, you're still not going to get to the absolute correct call."

And the same sort of blown call happened in Detroit last week in a game between the Red Wings and Sharks.

Rookie Devin Setoguchi scored on Dominik Hasek midway through the third period after the puck went off the net and over the glass. The goal proved to be the game-winner, giving the San Jose Sharks a 3-2 win over the slumping Red Wings. "We might've gotten lucky on the third goal," San Jose coach Ron Wilson acknowledged.

Detroit goaltender Dominik Hasek agreed. "Definitely, it was a mistake," he said. "The officials should've blown the whistle, but no one of the four saw the puck."

While the league can't be happy with its officials blowing calls, the opinion is mixed to whether the replay rules should be expanded.

"If you wanted a perfect game where everything was perfect - the officiating, offence, defence, goaltending, we'd roll back the tape on every play like we do on every game and we wouldn't have any goals at all," Walkom told TSN.

And in a quick poll conducted by TSN with 13 NHL general managers asking if video replay should be considered, 11 of them gave a flat-out no.

might've gotten lucky? no ron YOU DID get lucky. they should consider it what if another brett hull goal happens in a stanley cup finals game?

[Son of a Wing 1,644]

And in a quick poll conducted by TSN with 13 NHL general managers asking if video replay should be considered, 11 of them gave a flat-out no.

I think that's the key part right there. 11 of 13 is pretty significant.

[miller76 463]

I think that's the key part right there. 11 of 13 is pretty significant.

I am not so much challenging you on here, but why wouldn't a GM want this or some type of system in place?

[Z and D for the C 712]

I tihnk the GMs are saying no to reviewing every single play or something like that, which I'd likewise disagree withwith. BUT I do think a coaches challenge thing should be created with 2 options for challenging a game.

I think that would he BS calls like these.

[Majsheppard 203]

NONONONONONO

Replay is horrible in the NFL.

The NHL has the best replay system. It simply needs to be tweeked to include more things they can look for.

Never place the replay in the hands of the refs or the coaches. The waroom does a good job all things considered. If you change it you will simply slow down the game and anger fans even more when they don't overturn things.

Honestly, the San Jose debacle would have not been a problem if they were allowed to review it.

Same goes for Buffalos win.

[Echolalia 2,961]

NONONONONONO

Replay is horrible in the NFL.

The NHL has the best replay system. It simply needs to be tweeked to include more things they can look for.

Never place the replay in the hands of the refs or the coaches. The waroom does a good job all things considered. If you change it you will simply slow down the game and anger fans even more when they don't overturn things.

Honestly, the San Jose debacle would have not been a problem if they were allowed to review it.

Same goes for Buffalos win.

I'm getting mixed signals about your position on this subject...

Anyway, there definitely needs to be a coach's challenge, but only one or two per game, to limit the amount of delay on each game.

[Lazerbeam 13]

No we dont need challenges, we need people to start thinking in the NHL (Board of Governors, GM's) they dont think anything out, they just throw new rules and things(netting above glass) around without thinking of all the possible things that could happen and go wrong with that new rule/thing and could be controversial, thus we have problems because of their lack of vision. The NHL time and time again shows what a BUSH LEAGUE it is, this is why it gets no respect from the media and casual fans and why its not in the top 6 in major sports popularity! If 11 GM's dont want the call to be corrected with replay then that shows just how ignorant they and the rest of the NHL governing body are!!

Edited March 6, 2008 by Lazerbeam

[CenterIce 83]

All goals are supposed to be reviewed by the NHL Situation Room, before play resumes. The problem lies in what specific incidents allow for a goal to be overturned/allowed. I would think their should be something that allows for blatant mistakes like netting, too many men, offsides, etc. The NHL just doesn't want to have to cover everything. I would like to see the Situation Room have the ability to buzz in, like in college football, to say take a look at this play.

[Textbook 1]

Replay is horrible in the NFL.

I have to disagree. The replay system for the NFL has been a huge success since its implementation in 1999. If it wasn't, we wouldn't have it 9 years later. The system works - and it would work just as well in the NHL. There needs to be something to keep the officials in check. Right now the league's priorities are on fining players for shoving before a game .. not fixing the video review system. The NHL is so incompetent sometimes, it's not even a joke.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

All goals are supposed to be reviewed by the NHL Situation Room, before play resumes. The problem lies in what specific incidents allow for a goal to be overturned/allowed. I would think their should be something that allows for blatant mistakes like netting, too many men, offsides, etc. The NHL just doesn't want to have to cover everything. I would like to see the Situation Room have the ability to buzz in, like in college football, to say take a look at this play.

Pretty much how I exactly feel about what replays should be in hockey. I doubt we will ever see "challeneges" like in college football or the NFL, and I don't want to actually review

every.

single.

little.

play.

Reviewing goals like they do now, is fine with me in terms of instant replay. EVERY goal/non-goal situation should be reviewable though, as we've experienced officiating play a major, major role in 2 recent Wings losses with a "no-goal" in the crease vs. Anaheim and the netting incident in San Jose. Tweak whatever rules there are, or make rules, to have every situation that officials might be unsure of in the heat of the moment to be reviewable.

It keeps fans waiting and might slightly diminish fan experience at a game if you really want to get over-detailed about it, but it is better to be safe than sorry.

[wingsfan75 2]

Allow the replay of a puck hitting the netting for crying out loud though. That should have been in the replay rules from day 1. I could care less about the offsides and too many men incidents. The blatant mistake was that all the refs missed the puck hitting the netting. Most of the time goals are upheld/overturned correctly.

[Rivalred 630]

I honestly think the League should fine the Ref's money for missed called like this..... They would learn quick.

[RoninJai 5]

What bothers me is that now you have FOUR guys out there getting in the way instead of two, and STILL not one of them can find the puck. How the hell do you miss it bouncing off the net? The whole damn arena saw it, it was on the jumbo, and yet the 4 guys responsible for paying attention apparently can't see it. FAIL.

[imisssergei 0]

I'm kind of on the fence here, leaning towards no. Here is why.

The NHL has probably the best video review system around, in that of the systems in use, it is the most effective and efficient.

However, it isn't perfect.

I think it should be left alone as far as how plays are reviewed, but I would like to see what the plays that can be reviewed expanded.

The best way to do this, IMO, would be to have a short, 30 second break between goals to allow the guys in Toronto time for a quick review of the goal. If something needs further review, they make the call and take the necessary time to make the correct.

Every time I've seen a play reviewed in the NHL, they get it right. Which is more than you can say for any other sport.

[CenterIce 83]

The best way to do this, IMO, would be to have a short, 30 second break between goals to allow the guys in Toronto time for a quick review of the goal. If something needs further review, they make the call and take the necessary time to make the correct.

That is what they do, now.

[imisssergei 0]

That is what they do, now.

I meant with the ability to look at things like too many men on the ice.

[tommingthepuck96 1]

Why even have the mesh(outofplay) rule if it can't be reviewed? I don't get that.