stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 Cheli is still hurting a bit and it was GLARINGLY obvious in last nights game... the coaching staff and trainers need to recognize that and shelf him until the last 3 or 4 games of the regular season, not putting him until he's 100% - granted, I know these games don't matter as much right now, and we're still winning, but he is a liability right now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 Could I get some pinpoint examples of his glaringly obvious mistakes, cause I did not catch them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 it might just be me but sometimes it looks like hes out there with two left feet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redwingsfan18 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 it might just be me but sometimes it looks like hes out there with two left feet? No, I agree with you 100%, I see it too. Even before the injury there were times his play would have me scratching my head. Yet he's sound defensively and still puts his body on the line so I can't complain. Rather have him in the lineup then Lilja. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILSWATERBOY 10 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 Chelis forward motion is fine along with going backwards, it is lateral movement that looks restricted weather it is still sore or just stiff only he knows I agree sit him and play Meech until Cheli is 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 i feel that we might be soon seeing the end of Chelios, he seems to finally be starting to show his age.. still, i prefer him in the lineup to Lilja, Lebda and Meech at the moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 Chelis forward motion is fine along with going backwards, it is lateral movement that looks restricted weather it is still sore or just stiff only he knows I agree sit him and play Meech until Cheli is 100% Regardless of whether Cheli should sit or not, no way would Babcock play Meech over Lebda right now (even though he probably should). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 several points in response to all posts. 1. He's been caught out of position many times over the last 2 games 2. It's most definitely his lateral movement 3. Meech is number 8 for all of playoffs and will not play unless there is an injury, period. (regardless of if he earned it over Lebda) 4. Lilja is a VERY sound stay-at-home defenseman and the slack he's always taking is very unwarranted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 several points in response to all posts. 1. He's been caught out of position many times over the last 2 games 2. It's most definitely his lateral movement 3. Meech is number 8 for all of playoffs and will not play unless there is an injury, period. (regardless of if he earned it over Lebda) 4. Lilja is a VERY sound stay-at-home defenseman and the slack he's always taking is very unwarranted QFT again, and again, and again! *For his role on the team* he's beyond a great player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 I haven't noticed any glaring mistakes by Chelios? Are we just running out of people to ***** about since Lilly wasn't in the game and Sammy has looked better (and Kopecky too!) Cheli's gonna be just fine. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 QFT again, and again, and again! *For his role on the team* he's beyond a great player. Agree! Agree! AND he's super cheap! Cheers to Lilly! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILSWATERBOY 10 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 (edited) Regardless of whether Cheli should sit or not, no way would Babcock play Meech over Lebda right now (even though he probably should). I have no problem playin Lebda over Meech I just want see a healthy body on the ice and give Cheli the chance to heal for the playoffs Edited March 14, 2008 by DEVILSWATERBOY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 I've always liked lilja. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimace1970 81 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 I have no problem playin Lebda over Meech I just want see a healthy body on the ice and give Cheli the chance to heal for the playoffs LEBDA over MEECH? What, are you kidding? Lebda has been a waste of air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark the red 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 Chelli's play the second season half has not yet matched his first half. We need to have him out there though, to anchor the younger guys. It would be nice, since Lidstoms back and the President"s trophy is secured, to have him take a few games off to rest up for the play-offs. As far as the Lillja vs. Lebda debate, Lebda cost us a goal last night and Lillja cost us one 2 games ago. With Stuart being added, Lebda/s skating value has decreased. Lillja is better at blocking shots and throwing the ocassional hit. Both seem to be liabilities in close games. Flip a coin boys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 LEBDA over MEECH? What, are you kidding? Lebda has been a waste of air. QFMFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 QFT again, and again, and again! *For his role on the team* he's beyond a great player. That statement is about as true as Eliot Spitzer being an honorable citizen. It's hilarious how people continue to support Lilja on this forum. Why exactly? He makes one good play every 30 games, and in between, he makes about 1000 bad plays that usually cost the Wings in some way. I can't wait until the day he's finally off this team, and I never have to see that POS in a Red Wing uniform again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zombiewing 3 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 Agree! Agree! AND he's super cheap! Cheers to Lilly! esteef ya know, i have always thought of lilja as a bob rouse kind of player-stay at home, tough and cheap as a newly divorced cougar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStormRising 7 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 Lilja! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58Miles2Joe 12 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 (edited) Lilja has made some big mistakes that are easy to remember and make a big impression. However, I've been impressed with his continued improvement and his fairly new shot-blocking acumen. He throws a lot of unspectacular hits, but I think they add up in a way. All-in-all I think we have a better Lilly-hammer than we did a couple seasons ago; I don't think he'd acquire the tongue-in-cheek, derogatory nickname "Pain Train" if he'd just started today. (Ericsson (sp?) needs serious playing time next year, though, as he's close to Lilja now and has far more potential, probably.) As far as Cheli goes: don't be mad at elegance. Edited March 14, 2008 by 58Miles2Joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2probert4 8 Report post Posted March 14, 2008 LEBDA over MEECH? What, are you kidding? Lebda has been a waste of air. There's quite a few on here that think that Lebda is actually better than Meech....I'm not one of them. I think Lebda should stay in the press box, but thats me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 15, 2008 Anybody want to point out these glaring mistakes that Chelios is making, because this is new news to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites