Last player to earn 4 (major) trophies in a season?

[BeeRYCE 2]

Ovechkin might do it.

Hart, Art Ross, Richard, Pearson...?

Agree?

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

My guess would be Mario Lemieux in 1996. I think he won the Hart, Pearson, Art Ross and Richard trophies that year, but I'm just going on pure memory here, and am too lazy to look it up. Also, I'm not sure if they had a Masterton trophy back then, but he might have won that too.

[BeeRYCE 2]

My guess would be Mario Lemieux in 1996. I think he won the Hart, Pearson, Art Ross and Richard trophies that year, but I'm just going on pure memory here, and am too lazy to look it up. Also, I'm not sure if they had a Masterton trophy back then, but he might have won that too.

They didn't have a Richard trophy that year... But yeah, he only won Ross, Hart, and Pearson that year.

[norrisnick 1]

Gretzky in '85 won 4 prior to the Rocket Richard being awarded (Hart, Art Ross, Pearson, Conn Smythe).

Bobby Orr in '70 won 4 prior to the Pearson being awarded (Hart, Art Ross, Norris, Conn Smythe).

Both would have won 5 that year if the trophies existed.

Guy Lafleur won the Art Ross, Hart, Pearson, and Conn Smythe in '77.

[BeeRYCE 2]

Well it's impressive that Ovechkin can now possibly be mentioned with those legendary... Regardless of what trophies did or didn't exist of course.

Who knows, maybe Conn Smythe? Heh.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

It'd be great if Lidstrom won the Hart, Norris, Conn Smythe, and Lady Byng trophies all in one year. It's not likely, but it is possible.

[BeeRYCE 2]

It'd be great if Lidstrom won the Hart, Norris, Conn Smythe, and Lady Byng trophies all in one year. It's not likely, but it is possible.

Add Pearson to that and we have a deal.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Add Pearson to that and we have a deal.

I actually think there's too many trophies in the league. I don't think the Lady Byng or the Pearson should exist. Yeah, it's great that players can vote for their MVP, but many Pearson winners have also been Hart winners in that same year, so that trophy to me seems meaningless. It's like the Oscars in that there's too much hardware given out.

Also, there should be an award given out for fighter of the year. It would be called the Bob Probert Trophy. Hell they're naming all the other trophies after historical Canadians of the past, so why shouldn't Probie have one?

[po-GoWings 1]

dont forget stanley for lidstrom

Edited March 18, 2008 by po-GoWings

[BeeRYCE 2]

I agree the Pearson shouldn't exist, but Lady Byng should. Sportsmanship is a great attribute. I also like gritty play, but I think it's good to acknowledge players that play at top level while at the same time showing a great deal of sportsmanship/respect.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

I agree the Pearson shouldn't exist, but Lady Byng should. Sportsmanship is a great attribute. I also like gritty play, but I think it's good to acknowledge players that play at top level while at the same time showing a great deal of sportsmanship/respect.

Then why did Kariya when the Lady Byng trophy twice? The guy is one of the biggest divers in the league, yet he was given a trophy for sportsmanship. Go figure.

[detroitdan 0]

I don't mind the Pearson...a lot of the players appreciate that trophy because it's voted on by their peers

[BeeRYCE 2]

Then why did Kariya when the Lady Byng trophy twice? The guy is one of the biggest divers in the league, yet he was given a trophy for sportsmanship. Go figure.

I guess the league only acknowledges low penalty minutes. I agree though, a low amount of penalty minutes should not go entirely hand in hand with flat out sportsmanship.

[HomeNugget 2]

i don't consider the richard a major trophy. there's already a trophy for scoring.

[34Legace34 0]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_trophies

18 total awards...thats lots of filler to extend the televised ceremony.

I like that we have a chance at seeing some players join the company mentioned earlier (ovie and 87)

[YoungGuns1340 1]

i don't consider the richard a major trophy. there's already a trophy for scoring.

Yeah, the Ross...which you could theoretically win without having scored a goal...

I love the Richard and I think goals are a great reason to have a trophy. After all, no goals = no Ross.

Its even more worthy when youre a cut above the rest of the pack. Its not out of the realm of possibility for Alex to be 10-15 goals ahead of the next closest guy. Hes been scoring goals at nearly a goal per game pace for the last 30 games. Right now hes 8 ahead of Kovy.

[Doggy 130]

My guess would be Mario Lemieux in 1996. I think he won the Hart, Pearson, Art Ross and Richard trophies that year, but I'm just going on pure memory here, and am too lazy to look it up. Also, I'm not sure if they had a Masterton trophy back then, but he might have won that too.

Of course they had a Masterton trophy back then. He's not 80 years old. Anyway, Mario won 4 trophies in 93. Ross, Hart, Pearson and Masterton.

I just had to point that out because Mario is my second favourite player of all time and that season was the best I've ever seen a player perform at any sport ever.

[eva unit zero 271]

Of course they had a Masterton trophy back then. He's not 80 years old. Anyway, Mario won 4 trophies in 93. Ross, Hart, Pearson and Masterton.

I just had to point that out because Mario is my second favourite player of all time and that season was the best I've ever seen a player perform at any sport ever.

My pick for 'best season ever' is Steve Yzerman in 1988-89. If you can name me another player who scored 60+ goals and 90 assists, and had at least one vote for Selke as best defensive forward...then you have named a better performance.

[Nev 1,085]

Of course they had a Masterton trophy back then. He's not 80 years old. Anyway, Mario won 4 trophies in 93. Ross, Hart, Pearson and Masterton.

I just had to point that out because Mario is my second favourite player of all time and that season was the best I've ever seen a player perform at any sport ever.

That was my first season watching the NHL and it was incredible. Every morning I'd turn on ESPN to watch the highlights and there would be Mario making another goalie look stupid. To miss 1/3 of a season and still easily win the scoring title is some feat.

[norrisnick 1]

My pick for 'best season ever' is Steve Yzerman in 1988-89. If you can name me another player who scored 60+ goals and 90 assists, and had at least one vote for Selke as best defensive forward...then you have named a better performance.

Fedorov had 50+ goals 120 points (2nd to Wayne) and won the Selke. One of Bobby Orr's Hart/Ross/Norris seasons would be up there too.

[Doggy 130]

My pick for 'best season ever' is Steve Yzerman in 1988-89. If you can name me another player who scored 60+ goals and 90 assists, and had at least one vote for Selke as best defensive forward...then you have named a better performance.

Well Eva of course I don't have the stats that you do but Mario had Hodgkin's lymphoma and got treated for it in January that season. He missed 20 games or so, then Pens struggled the he returned and they won 17 straight to finish the season.

This was while convalescing from radiation treatment and with a very bad back which required surgery for the second time the following season.

Now, I said Mario was my second favourite player, Stevie is my first. But Mario's 92-93 season was like nothing I've ever seen. You know who'll agree with me? Steve Yzerman and every player that played against him that year. Mario was seriously super-human.

Now to sit back and wait for more pointless stats from Eva....

[BeeRYCE 2]

This guy did this, this guy did that... Why not throw in Wayne's 200 point seasons in there? Numbers are unreachable. Who cares if he wasn't Selke worthy, he was too busy averaging nearly 2.7 points per game EVERY season? Maybe if he only scored a whimpy 60 goals, 90 assists, he would have actually had time to play defense.

[eva unit zero 271]

Well Eva of course I don't have the stats that you do but Mario had Hodgkin's lymphoma and got treated for it in January that season. He missed 20 games or so, then Pens struggled the he returned and they won 17 straight to finish the season.

This was while convalescing from radiation treatment and with a very bad back which required surgery for the second time the following season.

Now, I said Mario was my second favourite player, Stevie is my first. But Mario's 92-93 season was like nothing I've ever seen. You know who'll agree with me? Steve Yzerman and every player that played against him that year. Mario was seriously super-human.

Now to sit back and wait for more pointless stats from Eva....

I agree with you, he was phenomenal that year. Had he been healthy, at the pace he scored at, he'd own the single season records for goals and points. My point follows this logic...

Mario was just as good offensively in 88-89 as he was in 92-93. His scoring pace was slightly down, due mainly to the fact his linemates were Rob Brown and Dan Quinn, rather than Kevin Stevens and Rick Tocchet.

In 1988-89, Steve Yzerman won the Pearson award over Lemieux's career high and league leading 85 goals and 199 points. Ultimately, the Pearson award is the one least influenced by media hype. The 88-89 season is probably the prime example of how Yzerman has been overshadowed by the names Gretzky and Lemieux; it was the only instance where a player was named the Pearson winner as the league's top player and did not appear on the First or Second All-Star team. Given that the previous SEVEN Pearson awards had gone to either Lemieux or Gretzky, and you can see how much Yzerman would have had to do to earn that honor.

For further consideration? Yzerman's 1989 Pearson win is the ONLY instance of a forward who finished outside the top 2 in scoring winning the award. That's even more impressive when you consider that he was 44 points behind the leader; any other forward who won without also winning the scoring title was within a few points of the leader, usually with more goals.

[BeeRYCE 2]

For further consideration? Yzerman's 1989 Pearson win is the ONLY instance of a forward who finished outside the top 2 in scoring winning the award. That's even more impressive when you consider that he was 44 points behind the leader; any other forward who won without also winning the scoring title was within a few points of the leader, usually with more goals.

That's what is good about Pearson I think, or at least that's why it was created. Players are able to acknowledge overall aspects of a player's ability whereas the Hart trophy moreso recognizes them more statistically than anything. Aside from Fedorov's Hart win of course.

[eva unit zero 271]

That's what is good about Pearson I think, or at least that's why it was created. Players are able to acknowledge overall aspects of a player's ability whereas the Hart trophy moreso recognizes them more statistically than anything. Aside from Fedorov's Hart win of course.

Fedorov won the Hart finishing second in scoring, with about 20 more goals than the points leader. In addition to winning the Selke, he was also probably the best OFFENSIVE forward in the league that year.

People often fail to recognize that the Hart trophy is NOT the trophy for best player. The best player in the league is not necessarily the most valuable player. The reason Wings players never win the Hart is because the Wings have several high end talents. The Wings have three of the top ten players in the league, so the argument that Lids, Z, or dats is more valuable individually to the Wings than a lone superstar like Ovechkin or Iginla is to their team is often shot down by analysts.

The Pearson has no such qualification; It is simply for the most outstanding player. Often the two awards go hand in hand, due in part to Hart voters casting their vote as a vote for 'best player' rather than MVP. But many times the more valuable player is not necessarily the better player.