HockeytownRules19 902 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Bettman sucks http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?A...373/1004/SPORTS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Dub 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Bettman is such an idiot. Educate me on the rule but Holmstrom stands outside of the crease. Who gives a crap if Turco decides to stick his stick (haha) between Homer's legs? He can stand there as long as he wants because it is outside of the damn crease! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deker 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 The paranoid in me thinks that this opens the door for officials to call more interference penalties on legitimate goalie screening situations. Someone tell me otherwise, quick! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 A bunch of people kept asking Bettman about it on XM yesterday and Bettman, hockey-dullard that he is, kept insisting that it was the correct call. "Well, it looked like he kept Marty's stick from moving." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Holmer just is a Fat Ass ... admit it Bettman... he just doesn't look fat in those shorts, he is fat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deker 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 A bunch of people kept asking Bettman about it on XM yesterday and Bettman, hockey-dullard that he is, kept insisting that it was the correct call. "Well, it looked like he kept Marty's stick from moving." By that reasoning, Marty LaPointe once also kept Ed Belfour's stick from moving... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastballspecial 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 I have no idea who the Stars and Bettman are trying to fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CapnSmitty 39 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Ott's reply to it was classic....well he was clearly in the way.... Well no sh*t scientist...that is what you do when you screen the goalie..... Man my hatred for Ott the Downs Syndrome Leprechaun has went through the roof! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Bettman can suck my balls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Way to stand by your man Gary! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 "You know, you can squawk about that. But to be honest with you, I thought he was still in the way," Stars forward Steve Ott said. "I saw the puck just goes by Marty, but Marty's blocker gets hit by Holmstrom's elbow. Yeah, he's out of the paint, but that doesn't matter. The goalie still has to be able to make a save and be able to do what he does. For that play, I thought it was an extremely close call, but he (Holmstrom) still did nick him (Turco) on the way in." What else do you expect from the oracle of wisdom that is Steve Ott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) He should stand by his officials. Any organization or rink that doesn't stand by the refs they employ has a serious problem on their hands. IMHO, the NHL has the best officials of all the major sports. For the speed of the game, and so much happening out there, I have to say they do a great job. I know there are calls we all agree and disagree with. Holmstrom in the blue paint with the deflection that counted as a goal. Morrow with the back foot "kick in" goal that didn't count. This latest no goal call because of interference by Holmstrom. Those are just to name a few. Then you have all the minor penalties that are called or missed in the course of the game. I ref ice hockey and rollerhockey games at the rec league level and I can say that its all based on perception. Some calls are clear cut and easy to make. Others you see something and your first inclination is to call it, but doubt creeps into your mind afterwards or even after you put your hand up. Its not an easy job, and as a ref you want to make every call 100% correct. I review the tapes of any game that is recorded by fans or friends if I am reffing. While watching my own tapes there are times I may doubt myself. However, I can say that a vast majority of what I call is correct, which is the key thing. These NHL refs review tapes as well. They are reviewed by the league and discuss the calls with their peers. Adjustments and lessons are learned. In the end however, they are human. Also, its amazing how the consensus of a game has to do so much with the reffing. If your team wins, then the reffing for the most part was good. If your team loses, the reffing was horrible. Either that or it was the one call that caused your team to lose. Or the one goal that was disallowed. Very very few people see a middle ground. They don't remember the "missed" calls if your team wins 5-2. Just an observation. Edited May 16, 2008 by Nightfall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 A glimpse into the 2008-09 season... "Detroit, #96, two minutes for screening the goaltender..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) Yeah. I bet he would say 1st goal by Finland against USA (the first game) was good. What a f*****. Edited May 16, 2008 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Yeah. I bet he would say 1st goal by Finland against USA (the first game) was good. What a f*****. Was that the one I heard about that went through the side of the net? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILSWATERBOY 10 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Bettman blows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 BY MANAM!! I mean... f*** BETTMAN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Dub 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 He should stand by his officials. Any organization or rink that doesn't stand by the refs they employ has a serious problem on their hands. Standing by your officials and admitting that they made a mistake and blew a call are two diferent things in my books. The NFL has many times admitted their refs made mistakes and they will talk about it and make sure it doesn't happen again. Standing by a ref that blew a call seems to have little positives. I don't argue the fact that refs are human and will make a mistake from time to time, especially in a fast paced game like hockey. I expect them to review calls though and to admit that they made a mistake and will work on not making it again. There is nothing wrong with that kind of statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 As leader of an organization you have to publicly stand by your officials. If he is worth his salt he is dealing with it behind the scenes. Banning screens pretty much guarantees we go back to the old days of 1-0 games all the time, which is the opposite of what Bettman wants. Let's hope he realizes it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Was that the one I heard about that went through the side of the net? Enjoy the Finnish play-by-play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Real1 2 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 I realize that it was probably payback for the goal that Homer got( Game 2 I believe) but you can't give payback in a cheap ass way like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Buttman is an ass. "Well, it looked like he kept Marty's stick from moving." So what! If homer is out of the paint it's fair!! Does he know anything about hockey, seriously! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Standing by your officials and admitting that they made a mistake and blew a call are two diferent things in my books. The NFL has many times admitted their refs made mistakes and they will talk about it and make sure it doesn't happen again. Standing by a ref that blew a call seems to have little positives. I don't argue the fact that refs are human and will make a mistake from time to time, especially in a fast paced game like hockey. I expect them to review calls though and to admit that they made a mistake and will work on not making it again. There is nothing wrong with that kind of statement. I wholeheartedly agree. However, I have to say you would be a lot more forgiving than a bulk of the people posting in this thread saying "f*** Bettman". Just like the Stars fans were calling for the refs heads when Holmstrom was in the blue paint and deflected that shot from Lindstrom. When that goal was counted, I thought that Dallas would get a favorable call down the road. However, you try not to read anything into it. I would never do anything like that as a ref. Yet, the conspiracy theorist in me has to wonder.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Bettman sucks http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?A...373/1004/SPORTS GST's Take I don't think we need to worry about there being an epidemic on interference calls, even against our beloved Homer. And to be quite honest, for as good as he is, Homer is also the most prone to actually interfering with the goalie so its live by the sword, die by the sword IMO. As for Buttman, of course he's going to say "it was the right call". Are we truly surprised? The guy is a ******* idiot and always has been. Nothing to see here, move along. The call was blown. And I absolutely loved what Mike Babcock said about it all. That Sutherland blew it. Move on. In one sense Homer got away with it earlier in the series. So IMO this is Karma. I don't think Sutherland or any other ref was trying to make up a call for that one. I just think they flat out missed this call. And when Babcock said that if a referee blows a call, we all have to live with it, but just don't dream up a make up call. I've always hated the notion that there needs to be a make up call due to a questionable earlier call. Where I come from, if you f*** up, well then you admit you f***ed up and you move on and try to do a better job. You don't try to "even" things up by making another bad call. Two wrongs don't make a right. I think Babcock was spot on with those comments and its just further proof that we are lucky to have one of the smartest field generals out there. Babcock is just a dream come true for me as a fan. He doesn't gripe and ***** about officiating but he lets it be known what he thinks. And that as a coach, a player or a fan, we need to move on. I'm not worried about this at all and I don't think there's anything behind it other than the ref just blowing the call completely or feeling as though he needed a "make up call". Hopefully Babs message about make up calls got through to the zebras and we can get on with game 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Rosenrosen 0 Report post Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) If that's a penalty, then the rules must be different in the East. I can thnk of at least a half dozen playoff goals scored by the Rangers, Flyers and, yes, the Penguins that should have been disallowed using an even lower standard than what Holstrom did. It's really about what any reasonable sports fan wants - consistency. Set a standard and follow it regardless of the player, score, or game situation. Edited May 16, 2008 by Dr Rosenrosen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
