All Is Not Well In Hockeytown

[BigShooter 0]

Okay, let me just say one thing. Our strength is not in our offense. Defense wins champoinships, and that's why we're where we are right now. Granted this article makes a valid point that we need some of our second line guys to step up, but the reality is that no team has been able to torch us. We can put enough points on the board to win just about any game given the strength of our defensive play, mostly due to Ozzie playing like a hall of famer.

Everyone is welcome to their opinion I suppose, but writing an article about how we have no depth and only one line that can score is just ridiculous. Like it or not Johan is hurt, and he was producing, we've handled Dallas without him, and we'll handle the Pens without him if need be. We are point blank the best defensive team in the NHL, and considering we can score a ton of goals with one top line, we're just fine. We only need to score 2 per game most games to win anyway, anything above and beyond is just icing on the cake.

Oh and by the way, we scored how many goals in game 4 against the Avs? It was 8 wasn't it, jeez, I don't think any other team has scored that many in a game this poit season. Man, we really need to get more offense going...

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

That 2nd line has horrible chemistry right now. None of those guys seem to know what the other guys on their line are doing, or where each other is going to be on the ice. It was easy when Franzen was there, because Kronwall would just throw pucks in from the point, and he'd deflect them, but right now it's way different.

Sammy doesn't even look like he's playing for either team. His baffling maneuvers out there are more idiotic each time I see them. Flip is too easy to knock off the puck, and Cleary can't finish any chance he gets. I'm wondering if he can even see the puck with that new helmet he's wearing.

Right now, I'd move Hudler up and to take Sammy's place.

[Reilly 24]

I thought Cleary had his best game of the playoffs. He came close to scoring some goals, but Turco came up big. Overall, though, I think their 2nd PP unit is horrible. I don't think there was ever a point in any of these games were Franzen was hurt that they had any sustainable pressure.

[servo 15]

Me? Or Bruce MacLeod?

Bruce MacLeod; Sorry that wasn't clear, but he takes a whole article to make a point that we only have one line of scoring, but then adds that Datsuk and Zets are unstoppable together. If that is the case, there is no point to the article because no one is able to stop them.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

I don't really see what he is incorrect at with this article at initial glance.

Teetering like he is on the doom-and-gloom see-saw when the team has gone 9-1 in their last 10 games is a bit of a stretch, but you can't say that the secondary scoring for this team has not dried up the last 3 games minus a Darren Helm and Jiri Hudler goal.

It is definitely unrealistic to expect your team to score 5+ goals a game obviously, but you need your 2nd line to try to chip in one or at least put the pressure on offensively. As much as the Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom line has been doing good, it is unrealistic as well to think they will score multiple goals a night either.

Others need to chip in as well.

That being said, you can pretty much apply this theory to almost any team, espeically in the playoffs when goal scoring is typically lower, as every team pretty much has "secondary scoring" issues.

Edited May 16, 2008 by SouthernWingsFan

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

That being said, you can pretty much apply this theory to almost any team, espeically in the playoffs when goal scoring is typically lower, as every team pretty much has "secondary scoring" issues.

Exactly. Tell me which of the 4 teams remaining doesn't have secondary scoring issues and then I'll be quiet.

[Yzermania19 1]

I don't see the Wings' egg being cracked. I think that guy is ON crack.

Normally I agree with Bruce but not this time. The guys who are supposed to score are scoring, the guys who are supposed to check are checking, and the guys who are supposed to defend are defending. And the guy who is supposed to stop the pucks has the lowest GAA in the playoffs and is an early favorite for the Conn Smythe. Everyone is doing their job, and quite exceptionally well. We've lost three of 14 playoff games - one of the last 10 - and nearly swept two series in a row.

Would he be saying the same things had we beaten Dallas on Wednesday night? I seriously doubt it.

The Wings' egg isn't cracked, but Bruce's is.

[Dabura 12,232]

Had we not lost one game in the last TEN, this article would not have been written.

Better yet, had Mule not been sidelined with headaches, this guy would probably be writing an article about how the Wings' secondary scoring is their greatest asset, or what have you. And really, that's the bottom line -- the Wings are missing a key forward. It's as simple as that.

Yes, the other secondary scorers need to step up in his absence. But again, winning isn't just about scoring; as the saying goes, "Defense wins championships." And the Wings D -- and overall team D -- is about as tight as I've ever seen it.

Stupid article.

[va Winger 0]

This article is laughable. It could also be written about any other team in the playoffs to date. The only difference being any other team doesn't have : The best defense in the league, the best 1st line in the league, the hottest goalie in the playoffs, the best coaching in the league, 2 Selke finalists, a likely conn Smyth winner, best coach nominee, award for best tandem @ goalie, the presidents trophy...........need I continue. This ia a special team and emphasis on team. Not every player is a 1st liner , not every player is an award winner. I believe THE TEAM is was wins Stanley Cups................ I have been watching This team for some 30 years and in my opinion, it is one of the most talented, most patient, skilled all around effective and dedicated bunch of guys I have ever seen............period !

So Macleod, One loss doesn't add up to your theme.................I beg to differ, for me and potential opponents "All is great in Hockeytown". KEEP your educated "OPINIONS" out of my game.............and STOP trying to PISS in my Cornflakes !!

[KronwallCRUNCH 5]

:yawn: what this guy fails to mention is the timing of goals from secondary scorers. this blog awakens an old, tired, act.

[KronwallCRUNCH 5]

This article is laughable. It could also be written about any other team in the playoffs to date. The only difference being any other team doesn't have : The best defense in the league, the best 1st line in the league, the hottest goalie in the playoffs, the best coaching in the league, 2 Selke finalists, a likely conn Smyth winner, best coach nominee, award for best tandem @ goalie, the presidents trophy...........need I continue. This ia a special team and emphasis on team. Not every player is a 1st liner , not every player is an award winner. I believe THE TEAM is was wins Stanley Cups................ I have been watching This team for some 30 years and in my opinion, it is one of the most talented, most patient, skilled all around effective and dedicated bunch of guys I have ever seen............period !

So Macleod, One loss doesn't add up to your theme.................I beg to differ, for me and potential opponents "All is great in Hockeytown". KEEP your educated "OPINIONS" out of my game.............and STOP trying to PISS in my Cornflakes !!

That pretty much sums it up. This blog is a snoozer.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Seems like the people on RedWingsCorner know what they are talking about as others agree.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...1128/SPORTS0103

[Guest nutz2u]

The goal should have counted, and the Wings would have played a completely different game with the lead. We should all know that and I would be willing to bet that if the Wings had been playing with the lead there wouldn't be a game today.

[Gizmo 21]

Red Wings Corner

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Oh no... We're doomed! Doomed I say!!!

[chrisdetroit 189]

Right on target. Others need to step up. If Dallas scores first again it changes the dynamics of the game, and the wings will not win when they have Zets attempting to rush into the offensive zone by himself with 3-4 Stars in front of him. This happened too many times in games 3 and 4.

Dallas is playing better the last 2 games, no question. However, this series is still the Wings to lose. Others need to step up.

He is correct in that most of the scoring as of late has been coming from DZH line. But he didn't mention one other little thing. Dallas has not been able to shut down that line. Monday in Dallas, Pav had 3 and Z had 1. 4 goals from that line and 2 on Wednesday (except Bettman robbed us of one).

It's ok to have most of your scoring on 1 line as long as the opposition can't shut them down which Dallas has not been able to do.

It's only a problem if the opposition can shut down the big line and I haven't found anybody (talking heads included) that give Pitts D any chance it hell of doing that.

Sergei Gonchar is an above average D man but he is only +3 for the playoffs. After that they have a bunch of average no names. And their forwards are not particularly great on Defense their top 4 forwards are all +4 and +5.

By the way, you mentioned game 3. We won that game 5-2. I will take a duplicate of that every time.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Red Wings Corner

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Wait a minute. Our top line is kicking ass but his complaint is that the other lines aren't? Talk about digging to find something negative to write about.....

[chrisdetroit 189]

I don't really see what he is incorrect at with this article at initial glance.

Teetering like he is on the doom-and-gloom see-saw when the team has gone 9-1 in their last 10 games is a bit of a stretch, but you can't say that the secondary scoring for this team has not dried up the last 3 games minus a Darren Helm and Jiri Hudler goal.

It is definitely unrealistic to expect your team to score 5+ goals a game obviously, but you need your 2nd line to try to chip in one or at least put the pressure on offensively. As much as the Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom line has been doing good, it is unrealistic as well to think they will score multiple goals a night either.

Others need to chip in as well.

That being said, you can pretty much apply this theory to almost any team, espeically in the playoffs when goal scoring is typically lower, as every team pretty much has "secondary scoring" issues.

No it isn't. The 3 of them have scored 21 goals in 14 games for an average of 1.5 goals/game. In my book that means they are doing just what you said was unrealistic.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Seems like the people on RedWingsCorner know what they are talking about as others agree.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...1128/SPORTS0103

If you dig deep enough on any really good sports team, you will find some weakness to write about. That's exactly what they are all doing.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Yep. Lord knows plenty of people in here are good at doing just that when things more often than not are going fairly well in the grand scheme of things.