KocursRightHand 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Bullcrap...Dupuis was taking a direct line to the puck handler....the kid had his leg extended trying to hold the line...Dupuis is NOT a dirty player You guys are seriously fishing with this thread The point is that had it been reversed, the Wings would've likely been called for it. This is pretty obvious. Hal Gill is getting away with assault but the referee crew seems more intent on calling bogus goalie interference calls and phantom trips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 just act like Babcock and move on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted June 3, 2008 just act like Babcock and move on To all Penguins fans. Let this thread be proof that stupid fans don't only reside in Pennsylvania. Dupuis ran into Helm, it was incidental, accidental, whatever you want to call it. Had Helm be entering the zone he wouldn't have been in Dupuis' way. Helm realized he was going to be offside and changed his speed/direction, whatever and it just happened to be the split second when Dupuis skating by. Dupuis wasn't paying attention to Helm, he wasn't thinking about Helm being offside. He was trying to get into the play. It's such a non issue. It wasn't a penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Dupuis has no right to ice occupied by another player. Helm was already in that spot, it is up to Dupuis to go around him. Hitting someone away from the puck, regardless of whether or not it was a knee on knee is interference. Couple that with the fact that you can see Dupuis spot Helm, and skate directly into him, and it's obvious that there should have been a call there. Maybe Crosby will be the victim of something like that happening, and we can all go to the Pens board, and see them saying "Draper had a clear line to the puck, and it was Crosby's responsibility to get out of the way. Clean play all around, just sucks Crosby got hurt." What is this mystical "spot" on the ice you are talking about. They were headed in opposite directions at different angles and at different speeds. Helm changed his angle up to stay onside and it caused the contact. No way Dupuis could've known what Helm was going to do. It isn't Dupuis' job to make sure Helm is onside. You act like this is ******* basketball and Helm was standing, feet planted, in a SPOT and Dupuis charged him. He didn't. They were both moving and neither was moving to a general spot. It was a collision neither player expected and wouldn't have happened if Helm didn't slow up and try to hold the line. Incidental contact. No penalty necessary. Move along Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motorcitykid 42 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 By the time the 3rd period came about, I had given up on any calls going Detroit's way. The numbers alone, do not tell anyone the whole story. As laughable as it was to hear Therrien ***** about our guys obstructing etc earlier in the series, it is laughable the amount of calls Pittsburgh hasn't been called on. And I LOATHE to ***** about referee's calls most of the time. When I read different newspapers online and hear the talk about how POOR the officials have been - a consensus really - how can anyone who has watched many playoffs games disagree. Oh well, Crosby & Co. will soon be home doing chores with the girlfriends/wives - while we bask in yet another win in the continuing saga of The Mighty Red Wings vs. just damn near everyone else. Go WINGS!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyNow71871929 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 Pascal Dupuis didn't even see Helm and Helm didn't see Dupuis. Helm was trying to hold the line and Dupuis just skating as hard as he could to make a play on the Wings player who had the puck on the blueline. It was incidental contact. There was no harm intended on the play. Dupuis was just skating and Helm was just caught in a very vulnerable spot because his legs were hanging behind the line while his body was across the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 To all Penguins fans. Let this thread be proof that stupid fans don't only reside in Pennsylvania. Dupuis ran into Helm, it was incidental, accidental, whatever you want to call it. Had Helm be entering the zone he wouldn't have been in Dupuis' way. Helm realized he was going to be offside and changed his speed/direction, whatever and it just happened to be the split second when Dupuis skating by. Dupuis wasn't paying attention to Helm, he wasn't thinking about Helm being offside. He was trying to get into the play. It's such a non issue. It wasn't a penalty. How is it that you can't help yourself from being oblivious to obvious hockey plays? Dupuis was well aware of Helm's attempt to stay onside. You see backchecking forwards knock players over the line to draw an offside call at least once a game. Darren was in Dupuis' line of sight the whole way, and Pascal took a nice convenient line to far wall that just "accidentally" cut right through Helm's outstetched leg. Most backcheckers will deliver that bump, but I haven't seen any cut right through the knee like that. Ridiculously dangerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 What is this mystical "spot" on the ice you are talking about. They were headed in opposite directions at different angles and at different speeds. Helm changed his angle up to stay onside and it caused the contact. No way Dupuis could've known what Helm was going to do. It isn't Dupuis' job to make sure Helm is onside. You act like this is ******* basketball and Helm was standing, feet planted, in a SPOT and Dupuis charged him. He didn't. They were both moving and neither was moving to a general spot. It was a collision neither player expected and wouldn't have happened if Helm didn't slow up and try to hold the line. Incidental contact. No penalty necessary. Move along It was contact initiated by Dupuis on a player that was not in possession of the puck. While I can't say I thought it was worthy of calling it kneeing or intent to injure...it was absolutely interference. A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who interferes with or impedes the progress of an opponent who is not in possession of the puck. Tell me Dupuis did not impede Helm's progress by skating into him. The correct call was a minor for interference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweekvp 0 Report post Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Bullcrap...Dupuis was taking a direct line to the puck handler....the kid had his leg extended trying to hold the line...Dupuis is NOT a dirty player You guys are seriously fishing with this thread The one on Helm was an accident. Your right Dupuis did not stick out his knee, it was just an unfortunate collision. That said the play were Maltby got a minor after a knee on knee was dirty and should have been a major. The Penguin Dman (don't remember who) lead with his knee directly into Maltby's knee. Edited June 3, 2008 by tweekvp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XxGoWingsxX 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2008 Gimme a break guys. Helm stuck his leg directly into Dupuis' path trying to hold the line. Dupuis has no obligation to try to avoid it because he is trying to make a play and shouldn't have to slow down or change direction. That's even assuming he COULD have avoided it. It happened very quickly and it was Helm's choice to put his own knee in harm's way. well good, now that you've brought up the point about not being able to stop or change direction...cleary and zetterberg, didn't really have a choice either...and its not like they would have hurt fleury with all his padding...i'm glad you agree here, k thanks bye.....and goodbye penguins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
