Francis Paré

[bellarina 1]

Hello fellow Wingnuts,

I have a quick question that i'm sure someone here can answer.

The Griffins have signed this kid Francis Paré, does that mean that the wings have dibs on him or is he now Red Wings Property?

Because I have seen him play and only one word describes him....WOW.

I can't beleive he went undrafted. I'm telling you all that this kid has star written all over him.

# Francis Pare

Pos: Center

D.O.B.: 06/30/87

From: Lemoyne, PQ

Height: 5'10

Weight: 185

Shoots: Right

Drafted: Undrafted

Acquired: Signed contract with Grand Rapids (AHL) 6/13/08

Personal:

Plus: Decent skater lacking breakaway speed... Superior on-ice vision... More known as playmaker despite goal totals... Works well in front on the powerplay...

Minus: Doesn't have rinkwide speed... Undersized... Big numbers in the QMJHL don't necessarily translate to the AHL...

Organizational Comments:

What GRC says: Summer 2008: Pare put up some big numbers in the QMJHL, garnering league MVP and a first all star team birth. It remains to be seen whether his game will translate to the pro level where he has less time and space to make plays. If he can make the adjustment he should bring some skill to the team.

Role: Playmaking Center

Projection:

Statistics:

Season Team Lge GP G A PTS PIM +/- GP G A PTS PIM +/-

2003-04 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 5 2 0 2 2

2004-05 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 70 24 23 47 52 10 4 0 3 3 4

2005-06 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 55 26 48 74 66 16 5 1 3 4 4

2006-07 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 68 29 44 73 37 -24 4 1 1 2 8

2007-08 Chicoutimi Sagueneens QMJHL 69 54 48 102 41 54 6 5 3 8 4 0

Transactions

6/13/08 Signed contract with Grand Rapids (AHL)

Thanks

Edited June 25, 2008 by bellarina

[Opie 308]

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=73351

Year________Team_______________League_GP__G____A_____PTS__PIM

2004-05 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 70 24 23 47 52

2005-06 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 55 26 48 74 66

2006-07 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 68 29 44 73 37

2007-08 Chicoutimi Sagueneens QMJHL 69 54 48 102 54

Those are decent stats I have to admit, especially last season, 102 points in 69 games!

WOW!!!

And he is right handed to boot!

And apparently he fights as well!!

http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/1277

Edited June 25, 2008 by Opie

[Guest Dump-N-Thump]

Pretty sure that if the Griffins sign him, He's propert of the griffins not the Wings.. Any NHL team can probaly come and steal him if they want..

My thoughts on this kid, His numbers look good.. But he is moving up from the QMJHL to the AHL its a big jump, I expect him to play the way the kid we got for Keefe did.. A offensive thraet, but cant put it together in a better league.

Edited June 25, 2008 by Dump-N-Thump

[betterREDthandead 58]

I doubt another NHL team could "steal" him any more than they could steal a player under contract to an NHL team. But it does put the Wings in position to buy his contract from the Griffins and then call him up and send him down as per usual regulations.

[12Newf 0]

definitely interesting, pretty small right now though but who knows what the future will bring.

[joshy207 156]

I doubt another NHL team could "steal" him any more than they could steal a player under contract to an NHL team. But it does put the Wings in position to buy his contract from the Griffins and then call him up and send him down as per usual regulations.

If he's not under NHL contract, why couldn't an NHL team sign him?

[sjradio 0]

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=51710

He is property of the Griffins at the AHL level, but he CAN signed by ANY NHL team, since he was undrafted he is a free agent for any NHL team.

It also means that the NHL team if they signed him could send him to their AHL affiliate team because they hold his rights, and Grand Rapids couldn't do a thing about it.

When the NHL team signs the player, his AHL contract usually is voided out, there are usually clauses saying that you can be released if you're signed by an NHL team.

[betterREDthandead 58]

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=51710

He is property of the Griffins at the AHL level, but he CAN signed by ANY NHL team, since he was undrafted he is a free agent for any NHL team.

It also means that the NHL team if they signed him could send him to their AHL affiliate team because they hold his rights, and Grand Rapids couldn't do a thing about it.

When the NHL team signs the player, his AHL contract usually is voided out, there are usually clauses saying that you can be released if you're signed by an NHL team.

O I C

I thought the affiliation agreement between the leagues didn't allow for that to happen.

[Doggy 130]

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=73351

Year________Team_______________League_GP__G____A_____PTS__PIM

2004-05 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 70 24 23 47 52

2005-06 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 55 26 48 74 66

2006-07 Shawinigan Cataractes QMJHL 68 29 44 73 37

2007-08 Chicoutimi Sagueneens QMJHL 69 54 48 102 54

Those are decent stats I have to admit, especially last season, 102 points in 69 games!

WOW!!!

And he is right handed to boot!

And apparently he fights as well!!

http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/1277

He was a man playing with kids. His most impressive season as a kid was '06 but he was largely carried by Alex Bourret. He'll never play for the Wings and I highly doubt any other NHL team.

[marcaractac 3,963]

I'm sure if he looks good at all in the AHL the Wings will sign him up anyway

[toby91_ca 620]

I suspect he'll struggle at the AHL and I'd be shocked if he ever makes it to the NHL level for any extended period of time. Not to many star players end up spending 5 years in Junior.

[bellarina 1]

I suspect he'll struggle at the AHL and I'd be shocked if he ever makes it to the NHL level for any extended period of time. Not to many star players end up spending 5 years in Junior.

I've seen him play enough times to say this kid is the real deal. He has tremendous vision and is very sound defensively +54 last year.

Was the league MVP this past year.

And he's only 21 years old.

This year one of his teammates was selected Nicholas Deschamps by Anaheim and he ain't as good as Paré.

Edited June 26, 2008 by bellarina

[Opie 308]

I am sorry I have a hard time believing that a guy who scores 102 points 69 games in juniors is going to struggle at the AHL level. He may be slow to develop, but you don't become that kind of scorer just because you are one year older than most of the other top level competition.

I watched the Q closely when I lived in Maine, even got to see Sid the year of his Lacrosse goal, I agree it is not the top Junior league, however it is not like it is high school hockey. Regardless if he is a year or two older, he is playing against guys that are being drafted and predicted to be successful at the next level.

Not saying he will be a success or that he won't bust just saying those numbers show he has some distinct skill.

[bellarina 1]

I am sorry I have a hard time believing that a guy who scores 102 points 69 games in juniors is going to struggle at the AHL level. He may be slow to develop, but you don't become that kind of scorer just because you are one year older than most of the other top level competition.

I watched the Q closely when I lived in Maine, even got to see Sid the year of his Lacrosse goal, I agree it is not the top Junior league, however it is not like it is high school hockey. Regardless if he is a year or two older, he is playing against guys that are being drafted and predicted to be successful at the next level.

Not saying he will be a success or that he won't bust just saying those numbers show he has some distinct skill.

I agree! But I think on the right team he will excel.

[Doggy 130]

Do you people not understand the difference between an 18 year old and a 21 year old? Francis Pare was better than Deschamps because he'd had 3 more years of development and experience. Honestly, it's comparing apples and oranges.

[Kp-Wings 3]

There are numerous players who score hundreds up points in the QMJHL, but do absolutley nothing in any other league they play in. Take a look at Olivier Latendresse for proof of that. I know he's still young, but if he's currently bouncing around in the ECHL and the American CHL, the chances of him ever cracking an NHL lineup are extremely low.

Same thing goes for this guy the Griffins just signed. He could be an NHL player, but don't count on it just because his stats in the QMJHL are good.

Edited June 27, 2008 by Kp-Wings

[bellarina 1]

(Doggy)[Do you people not understand the difference between an 18 year old and a 21 year old? Francis Pare was better than Deschamps because he'd had 3 more years of development and experience. Honestly, it's comparing apples and oranges.]

Aussie...no wonder, stick to rugby you obviously don;t know jack about hockey.

There are numerous players who score hundreds up points in the QMJHL, but do absolutley nothing in any other league they play in. Take a look at Olivier Latendresse for proof of that. I know he's still young, but if he's currently bouncing around in the ECHL and the American CHL, the chances of him ever cracking an NHL lineup are extremely low.

Same thing goes for this guy the Griffins just signed. He could be an NHL player, but don't count on it just because his stats in the QMJHL are good.

I have seen latendresse play and he's okay but not great, as for Paré I have seen him play many times and this kid is dynamite. I am not basing it on his stats.

Edited July 1, 2008 by bellarina