slavetothehotlight 11 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 Pic on Espn main page says wings still in mix. The story is INsider so I cant see the details. Not sure how this is even possible unless hes gonna pull a Kariya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 No was he's coming here, no way. Unless we wants to be paid ~2mill when he could be paid 10mil. forgetaboutit silly espn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEpats1028 1 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/index theres no way this is accurate... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 Not unless he's willing to sign a 1 year, $500,000 deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 Salary cap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DraperFan MN 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 Listen, He could pull a Kariya, and come to the Wings for cheap, cheap, cheap. The guy has made his money, and hasn't he already said that he only wants to go to a contender? In my mind, that eliminates Vancouver. I think there are just a handful of places which could give him a real shot. Anaheim, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Montreal, and maybe a couple of others could be debated. Vancouver just has too many missing pieces. Their blueline is not substantive enough to be considered contenders. Which is sad for Luongo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DraperFan MN 0 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 also.... Is anyone here an insider that could get the text of that article and post it here? Geez, could you imagine our top two? Holmstrom - Datsyuk - Zetterberg Franzen - Sundin - Hossa and then that bumps Flip down to the third line Fillpula - Hudler - Cleary McCarty - Draper - Maltby Now, I don't think this is EVER going to happen, but if Sundin did come to the Wings on the cheap, Sammy IS gone, and Kopecky, Helm, Leino, and Downey are all in GR to start the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwfan007 18 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 Insider Article "Don't believe the rumors you read in Swedish newspapers. Claes Elefalk, the Swedish representative for unrestricted free-agent center Mats Sundin, flatly denied a report from the Daily News that Sundin had decided to take Vancouver's $20M, two-year offer, according to TSN.ca. Elefalk told TSN.ca that a Daily News reporter called to ask for a quote and although Elefalk told him that his information was incorrect, the reporter still went ahead with the story. Canucks GM Mike Gillis restated his interest in Sundin last week and told a Vancouver radio station he was encouraged to continue an on-going dialogue and was confident Sundin would eventually accept his offer, according to TSN.ca. "The Vancouver offer and the time that Mike [Gillis] has spent with Mats is important," Sundin's agent, J.P. Barry, told TSN. "But ultimately Mats has to decide to play and that is the first step here." Nine teams originally had been in on the bidding for Sundin, including the Canadiens who had offered $16M for two years, according to the Toronto Sun. Various reports have the Rangers and Red Wings still in the mix while returning to captain the Maple Leafs remains a possibility, although they have reportedly offered just a one-year, $7M deal. Vancouver's offer includes a $5M signing bonus, $5M for this season, $5M due July 1, 2009 and another $5M to play in 2009-2010, according to TSN. " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) also.... Is anyone here an insider that could get the text of that article and post it here? Geez, could you imagine our top two? Holmstrom - Datsyuk - Zetterberg Franzen - Sundin - Hossa and then that bumps Flip down to the third line Fillpula - Hudler - Cleary McCarty - Draper - Maltby Now, I don't think this is EVER going to happen, but if Sundin did come to the Wings on the cheap, Sammy IS gone, and Kopecky, Helm, Leino, and Downey are all in GR to start the season. Or the Wings could just bench McCarty for a much better defensivley and offesneivily player. Insider Article "Don't believe the rumors you read in Swedish newspapers. Claes Elefalk, the Swedish representative for unrestricted free-agent center Mats Sundin, flatly denied a report from the Daily News that Sundin had decided to take Vancouver's $20M, two-year offer, according to TSN.ca. Elefalk told TSN.ca that a Daily News reporter called to ask for a quote and although Elefalk told him that his information was incorrect, the reporter still went ahead with the story. Canucks GM Mike Gillis restated his interest in Sundin last week and told a Vancouver radio station he was encouraged to continue an on-going dialogue and was confident Sundin would eventually accept his offer, according to TSN.ca. "The Vancouver offer and the time that Mike [Gillis] has spent with Mats is important," Sundin's agent, J.P. Barry, told TSN. "But ultimately Mats has to decide to play and that is the first step here." Nine teams originally had been in on the bidding for Sundin, including the Canadiens who had offered $16M for two years, according to the Toronto Sun. Various reports have the Rangers and Red Wings still in the mix while returning to captain the Maple Leafs remains a possibility, although they have reportedly offered just a one-year, $7M deal. Vancouver's offer includes a $5M signing bonus, $5M for this season, $5M due July 1, 2009 and another $5M to play in 2009-2010, according to TSN. " Hmmm, my English comprehension isn't that good but is this article saying the the WINGS have offered him a 7 mill deal? If that is so its complete utter bulls***. Only way Sundin gets here is if we ship off one of our d for a draft pick, and he signs for leauge min Edited July 21, 2008 by EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 Hmmm, my English comprehbension isn't that good but is this article saying the the WINGS have offered him a 7 mill deal? If that is so its complete utter bulls***. Only way Sundin gets here is if we ship off one of our d for a draft pick, and he signs for leauge min I think it says Toronto offered him. I could be wrong tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted July 21, 2008 Or the Wings could just bench McCarty for a much better defensivley and offesneivily player. Hmmm, my English comprehbension isn't that good but is this article saying the the WINGS have offered him a 7 mill deal? If that is so its complete utter bulls***. Only way Sundin gets here is if we ship off one of our d for a draft pick, and he signs for leauge min That means Toronto offered him 1 year @ 7. It says Detroit and New York are 'in the mix', but no dollar amount is given. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Holland has said that after the Hossa signing that he was done in the free agency market. I wonder what he would do if Sundin's camp rang and asked for a 1yr deal in the 3.5-4m range? This is highly unlikely but stranger things have happened before. Would Kenny consider it and what options would he have in getting the deal done? Well, with 10 D on the books, the possability of letting 2 of these and 1 roster fwd go may make enough space on the books to accomedate Sundin. But losing 3 players & the probable departure of Sundin at the end of the year would surely be to big a gamble for Kenny to take. Outside chance yes, actually happening very unlikely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaWingsin071 4 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 God if Sundin came to the Wings I dont even know what I would think. Or what all the stupid idiots would be calling us the Yankees of hockey. But boy that really shores up our top two scoring lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
octopusonice 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 If Sundin signs with the Wings after getting Hossa, I'm going to need smelling salts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Hate to tease you all, but can you imagine the line possibilitys with two top ten forwards an two top 20 forwards in the leauge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 I've been told that on July 1st Sundin's camp told Holland that he was not intrested in being a Wing. I hate to be a downer. But that is what I was told. He could be wrong tho..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaWingsin071 4 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 What if Sundin now realizes the chances of the Wings winning the cup this year is better now with Hossa. Maybe thats what hes been holding out on us all. I dunno its fun to speculate. Again if for some reason the hockey gods makes him sign a cheap 1 yr deal with Detroit, I will cry. Or need help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted July 23, 2008 I've been told that on July 1st Sundin's camp told Holland that he was not intrested in being a Wing. I hate to be a downer. But that is what I was told. He could be wrong tho..... Yah Holland said that on the radio too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
octopusonice 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2008 Once we signed Hossa, any chance of getting Sundin went out the window Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 Anyone else think that by Hossa jumping in quick to be a Wing kinda buggered Sundins plans, and he now really does have a dilema on who to sign for. Mats, hang em up son. All the trains with any hope of winning the cup this year have left the station mate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 Anyone else think that by Hossa jumping in quick to be a Wing kinda buggered Sundins plans, and he now really does have a dilema on who to sign for. Mats, hang em up son. All the trains with any hope of winning the cup this year have left the station mate! No, I don't. Kenny said in an interview after he signed Hossa that Sundin didn't express very much intrest in being a Wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swede40 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 Sundin needs to decide what he wants....money or a ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim 5 Report post Posted July 27, 2008 $10M per yr >> ring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stud_defenseman 1 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 I hate to say it but yea, 10m > Ring. McCarty would probably sell Sundin a few of them for a good price anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted July 29, 2008 $10M per yr >> ring In most cases this is true whether people like to admit it or not. However, when you already have a sh*t-ton of money priorities change. In time, $4 million and a Ring can become > $10 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites