question about a Dominic HasekPro Set rookie card

[Holmstrom96Screens 0]

ok i used to collect hockey cards in my teens in the 1990's (started again a couple months ago and have many rookies)

and last night while looking through my collection of cards (I collected them from packs and not from dealers) I found a 1991 Pro Set Dominic Hasek

card that is labeled as a rookie on both the back and the front. It has him s a blackhawk.

Its 1991 - 1992 season. however on the back of the card it also says that the season before that, 1990 - 1991, he did play five games with that blackhawks in that season. but only five games.

so my question is - technically, is my card a legit rookie cause it did say he played five games before that but maybe that wasnt enough to qualify as a legit NHL rookie for the 1990 1991 season. and what are the qualifications a player has to do to be considered a real NHL rookie and be a legit rookie card?

I suppose what Im wondering is, is my card really rookie or is it really a second year card of hasek, and they just made a mistake when it says 'rookie' onboth front and back?

I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

~ Holmer ~

[Slave 31]

no idea myself, but i got 1 year of upper deck and it had these same rookie cards for

hasek,jagr,lidstrom,fedorov, and my personal favorite....gino odjick...haha kk nt really my favorite but still it has all rookie team and the actual "rookie" cards in the set so not sure what qualifies as the rookie, i mean i am sure there were other brands like score and pinacle as well that made sets that year so how do you tell which is an "official" and which ones are not?

good question sorry i could not answer ya

[toby91_ca 620]

I think the technical requirement in the NHL to be considered a rookie is that you would not have played 25 or more games in a major professional league (I guess with Hasek, you'd need to consider whether the IHL was considered a major professional league). However, even if number of games was not an issue, Hasek might not have been eliglbe for the Calder back in 1991-92 due to age as he would have been 26 prior to September 15th of that season (but rules might have been different then).

So that's whether he would have been considered a rookie or not in 1991-92 in teh NHL, but in terms of cards, I always view a player's rookie card as being the first card produced for such player, so I think the card you are referring to would be considered a rookie card.....but pro set was not a great brand. I think I stopped collected cards around the 91-92 season, so I wouldn't call myself up to speed on the topic.

[Holmstrom96Screens 0]

ok thanks guys....maybe someone else will have answer for me too. I assumed cause he only played 5 games in the nhl in 1990 - 1991 that he was a rookie for 1991 - 1992. but just needed to ask.

I think I'll alsot this question on the official wings site too and see what I can come up with.

Again, thanks for your answers !

[toby91_ca 620]

no idea myself, but i got 1 year of upper deck and it had these same rookie cards for

hasek,jagr,lidstrom,fedorov, and my personal favorite....gino odjick...haha kk nt really my favorite but still it has all rookie team and the actual "rookie" cards in the set so not sure what qualifies as the rookie, i mean i am sure there were other brands like score and pinacle as well that made sets that year so how do you tell which is an "official" and which ones are not?

good question sorry i could not answer ya

Not possible. Lidstrom and Hasek rookie cards were in the 1991-92 set of upper deck and Fedorov and Jagr rookie cards were in the 1990-91 set.

[shoe 165]

a rookie year and a rookie card are 2 different things, the rookie card could be 3 years into a players career if he slips through the cracks some guys are nobodys some back ups don't play often Eg hasek behind belfour in Chicago he might have played but never when a photographer was around

There was a price guide called becket look it up online it might be around still they listed all the cards the price if it went up or down in value and an RC will be placed beside it if it's a players rookie card.

[Slave 31]

Not possible. Lidstrom and Hasek rookie cards were in the 1991-92 set of upper deck and Fedorov and Jagr rookie cards were in the 1990-91 set.

i'll check when i get home if i can find them but i only remember getting cards the one year and it has them on there hasek was rookie but not on all rookie team, think it was"

belfour

lidstrom

??????

fedorov

jagr

???????

forget those players

[Tane 17]

Wow, woulda thought there'd be more card collectors around here.

Yes, the 91-92 pro set card IS his rookie. the entire set is worth about $5

If you got a dollar for the Hasek i'd be surprised.

You can get sets for super cheap on ebay, and in turn, you can get most sets from the 90's for 5-15$ From local dealers

The past year, I'd go into my local card shop and drop about $50 and get 7-8 Sets. The market for the cards in the 90's is pretty much rocxk bottom.

That 1991 rookie team was Belfour, Weinrich, Rob blake Jagr Fedorov and Ken hodge.

Lidstrom qwas on the 92 rookie team with Konstantinov, Nelson emerson, Kevin todd and Tony Amonte, with Hasek in net.

A Rookie card is Simply the first NHL Licsenced Card produced of that player. There were Many guys in th 80's that played 3-4-5 years before they got a card made, and that became their rookie card.

Rookie cards Kind of got out of control with "Prospect" Cards, mainly in the other 3 sports, companies would make cards of college kids, hoping they'd turn out to be superstars and that would make, say, upper deck, the hottest set, because it was the only company that made a card of Peter Forsberg in 91-92

So now, I'm not sure how it evolved, but there is a special logo that all companies use for their rookie cards. the Main Card companies also Short print ALL rookie cards.

so last years upper deck Base set, (cards numbered 1-200 for series 1, and 251-450 for series 2) go for about 20$ a set.

but cards numbered 201-250 and 451-500 are ALL rookie cards, and are much tougher to find because they make so few of them. So that's why you'll see Patrick Kane's rookie go for $50+ and Hasek's for less than $1

the No Name rookies (Guy's who's name you can't pronounce and will never play more than a handful of games in the NHL) are still valued at $3-$5, jsut becasue of the rarity, and people want them to complete a master Set.

So for upper deck, you can get the 400 Card base set for 20-30 dollars, but if you get teh 500 Card Master set, with all the rookies, you're looking at dropping around $500

Edited September 23, 2008 by Tane

[Holmstrom96Screens 0]

Wow, woulda thought there'd be more card collectors around here.

Yes, the 91-92 pro set card IS his rookie. the entire set is worth about $5

If you got a dollar for the Hasek i'd be surprised.

awesome, thanks. Maybe I don't have a patrick roy rookie, but finding out that i have a hasek rookie (actually just found out I have two of these things) means I have got rookies of the next best goalies - Martin Brodeur and Hasek.

Again, thanks for all your help!

[Shutemdown 23]

Originally, I was going to say go onto Beckett.com and search for it, but I did it myself.

Is this the card you have?

http://beta.beckett.com/item/1291024/Hocke...rice#tabContent

It says it is his rookie card.

Hope it helps.

Edited September 24, 2008 by Shutemdown

[Holmstrom96Screens 0]

Originally, I was going to say go onto Beckett.com and search for it, but I did it myself.

Is this the card you have?

http://beta.beckett.com/item/1291024/Hocke...rice#tabContent

If everything is the same, it says it's worth $750-$1,000. Although, I don't know if this is your card, or what condition it's in, etc.

I could be totally off-base too.

Hope it helps.

*Thud* hits floor

that's what the beckett says its worth? as in Beckett hockey monthly or something?

and yea s my card (well I found out I have two of them) and they're in great condition. I took good care of them.

I asked though this question on the official wings forum and one of my friends there said that yea its his rookie but it was only worth $1.19 or something. Let me get the link he posted and show you....

ok he posted this link

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/Cards/Hockey/1991-92/Pro_Set

and it said its worth $1.19

who's right? whats the right price of it?

Edited September 24, 2008 by Holmstrom96Screens

[toby91_ca 620]

*Thud* hits floor

that's what the beckett says its worth? as in Beckett hockey monthly or something?

and yea s my card (well I found out I have two of them) and they're in great condition. I took good care of them.

I asked though this question on the official wings forum and one of my friends there said that yea its his rookie but it was only worth $1.19 or something. Let me get the link he posted and show you....

ok he posted this link

http://www.checkoutmycards.com/Cards/Hockey/1991-92/Pro_Set

and it said its worth $1.19

who's right? whats the right price of it?

NO, no, no, no, no. The $750-1,000 on that page was just sample pricing. You have to subscribe to Beckett to get the actual pricing. The $750 has absolutely nothing to do with the Hasek card. As someone already mentioned, I'd be very surprised if you would be able to sell it for more than $1.

[Shutemdown 23]

Haha, sorry about the false alarm! Wasn't intentional!

[Holmstrom96Screens 0]

Haha, sorry about the false alarm! Wasn't intentional!

its ok....I think i knew it wasnt worth $700 lol....I do know something about hockey cards.

just the thought that someone might have had it listed as worth that much...well....I think I will ask for a little compensation for the cyber - heart attack.

[jjd06e 10]

its ok....I think i knew it wasnt worth $700 lol....I do know something about hockey cards.

just the thought that someone might have had it listed as worth that much...well....I think I will ask for a little compensation for the cyber - heart attack.

none of the pro set cards are worth a thing. you can buy a box of about 200 of them for like $10 sometimes at stores such as meijer. I got a box about a year ago and got about 3 of those haseks in it

[Seraph 240]

Yeah, those are really low quality cards. You can tell from just looking at one up close. When I was in elementary school I'd convince my parents to buy me a box for 9.99 while we were waiting in line for the checkout. Then I'd spend more of my own money on the little transparent binder things you put them in. They're not worth anything, but it was fun opening the packs and going through them.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Haha, sorry about the false alarm! Wasn't intentional!

Just out of pure curiosity, and because I have it in my Yzerman collection in mint, how much would you say this is worth? I dono't expect it being worth that much, but its one of my earlier Yzermans'.

85-86 Oh-Pee-Chee

Edited September 25, 2008 by Yzerfan1999

[jjd06e 10]

Just out of pure curiosity, and because I have it in my Yzerman collection in mint, how much would you say this is worth? I dono't expect it being worth that much, but its one of my earlier Yzermans'.

85-86 Oh-Pee-Chee

not too much, now if it was one year earlier.....