11/20 GDT: Red Wings 4, Oilers 3

[Yak19 303]

it got close but its a real relief to take that one and not let it slip away.

keep it going

GO WINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited November 21, 2008 by Yak19

[eva unit zero 271]

.911 SV% for Ozzie tonight. Much better.

Good number, and doesn't do justice to his performance. I lost track of how many times I screamed at the TV for the Wings to clear the puck after they had MULTIPLE failed attempts in a row.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

It was good having Craig Simpson sub in for Murph, he's good to listen to

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

It was good having Craig Simpson sub in for Murph, he's good to listen to

Agreed. He's awesome.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Good start led to the win tonight, now we just have to work on putting away the 3rd period kinks for good

[eva unit zero 271]

Just a note for all of you who feel Hudler should be on the fourth line:

Red Wings forward scoring, arranged by points per game:

1. Marian Hossa 18GP, 10g-13a-23pt, +6 (1.28PPG)

2. Henrik Zetterberg 16GP, 10g-8a-18pt, +2 (1.13PPG)

3. Pavel Datsyuk 18GP, 6g-12a-18pt, +7 (1.00PPG)

4. Johan Franzen, 13GP, 9g-3a-12pt, E (0.92PPG)

5. Jiri Hudler 18GP, 6g-10a-16pt, -2 (0.89PPG)

5. Mikael Samuelsson 18GP, 4g-12a-16pt, +1 (0.89PPG)

7. Tomas Holmstrom 17GP, 7g-6a-13pt, +8 (0.76PPG)

8. Dan Cleary, 13GP, 2g-4a-6pt, -3 (0.46PPG)

9. Valtteri Filppula, 18GP, 2g-5a-7pt, -1 (0.39PPG)

10. Tomas Kopecky, 18GP, 1g-2a-3pt, E (0.17PPG)

11. Kirk Maltby, 17GP, 1g-1a-2pt, E (0.12PPG)

12. Darren McCarty, 11GP, 1g-0a-1pt, -2 (0.09PPG)

13. Kris Draper, 18GP, 0g-1a-1a, -8 (0.06PPG)

14. Darren Helm, 2GP, 0g-0a-0pt, E (0.00PPG)

If Franzen fails to post a point next game, and Hudler registers one, Hudler moves into fourth on the list. Given that Franzen plays a lot of minutes with a guy ahead of him on the list, and Hudler does not, as well as the difference in overall minutes played, I wonder if we'll be seeing a 'Hudler is a Top 20 NHL forward' thread soon.

[j.hoop 64]

Just a note for all of you who feel Hudler should be on the fourth line:

Red Wings forward scoring, arranged by points per game:

1. Marian Hossa 18GP, 10g-13a-23pt, +6 (1.28PPG)

2. Henrik Zetterberg 16GP, 10g-8a-18pt, +2 (1.13PPG)

3. Pavel Datsyuk 18GP, 6g-12a-18pt, +7 (1.00PPG)

4. Johan Franzen, 13GP, 9g-3a-12pt, E (0.92PPG)

5. Jiri Hudler 18GP, 6g-10a-16pt, -2 (0.89PPG)

5. Mikael Samuelsson 18GP, 4g-12a-16pt, +1 (0.89PPG)

7. Tomas Holmstrom 17GP, 7g-6a-13pt, +8 (0.76PPG)

8. Dan Cleary, 13GP, 2g-4a-6pt, -3 (0.46PPG)

9. Valtteri Filppula, 18GP, 2g-5a-7pt, -1 (0.39PPG)

10. Tomas Kopecky, 18GP, 1g-2a-3pt, E (0.17PPG)

11. Kirk Maltby, 17GP, 1g-1a-2pt, E (0.12PPG)

12. Darren McCarty, 11GP, 1g-0a-1pt, -2 (0.09PPG)

13. Kris Draper, 18GP, 0g-1a-1a, -8 (0.06PPG)

14. Darren Helm, 2GP, 0g-0a-0pt, E (0.00PPG)

If Franzen fails to post a point next game, and Hudler registers one, Hudler moves into fourth on the list. Given that Franzen plays a lot of minutes with a guy ahead of him on the list, and Hudler does not, as well as the difference in overall minutes played, I wonder if we'll be seeing a 'Hudler is a Top 20 NHL forward' thread soon.

are those from this season? when did helm play??

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

are those from this season? when did helm play??

Against Vancouver and the Rangers

[Z and D for the C 712]

Hudler doesn't perform on the 2nd line, we see it over and over again. He's well suited for where he plays, on the 3rd/4th line and the 1b PP unit. Hudler has 10 PP points which is extremely respectable and he leads the wings along with Lidstrom, so don't get me wrong. BUT, Take away his PP points and he has 6 points for .33 P/G..which is behind a lot of people. Jesus give it up already.

Edited November 21, 2008 by Z and D for the C

[eva unit zero 271]

Hudler doesn't perform on the 2nd line, we see it over and over again. He's well suited for where he plays, on the 3rd/4th line and the 1b PP unit. Hudler has 10 PP points which is extremely respectable and he leads the wings along with Lidstrom, so don't get me wrong. BUT, Take away his PP points and he has 6 points for .33 P/G..which is behind a lot of people. Jesus give it up already.

We don't see it over and over again; he's only played like 3 games on the second line in his career. He only plays 12 minutes a game. Give him more time, see if he scores more.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Hudler doesn't perform on the 2nd line, we see it over and over again. He's well suited for where he plays, on the 3rd/4th line and the 1b PP unit. Hudler has 10 PP points which is extremely respectable and he leads the wings along with Lidstrom, so don't get me wrong. BUT, Take away his PP points and he has 6 points for .33 P/G..which is behind a lot of people. Jesus give it up already.

Of course he only has 6 even strength points. He plays with lesser offensive players at even strength and sees few minutes there as well. Take away his PP time and he plays some 8 minutes a game with the likes of Kopay, Filppula, Maltby, and Draper. Nothing special there..

[Yzerfan1999 81]

I was at the game tonight - really fun to watch.

Even though Hossa didn't register a point, he really impressed me. He seemed to make something happen every shift. Brad Stuart looked good from where I was too.

[WhiteLightning91 105]

Can someone throw up the line combination's from tonight's game? Didn't catch them during the game.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Can someone throw up the line combination's from tonight's game? Didn't catch them during the game.

And ff you can I have a question for you: "what made you eat the damn line combos!?!"

[VM1138 1,921]

I like Hudler, but he's not better than Franzen. Someone else pointed out that he never performs on higher lines. He thrives with less playing time and having weaker opponents to play against. When he's been put on the 2nd line, his offensive skills dry up for the most part.

I say leave him where he is extremely effective.

[Aussie_Wing 354]

We don't see it over and over again; he's only played like 3 games on the second line in his career. He only plays 12 minutes a game. Give him more time, see if he scores more.

Exactly. He had all of 2 or 3 games to prove himself on the second line, and I doubt he even had 16+ minutes in that role anyway. And here are people saying he failed and can't score on a scoring line.

Hudler= GUN.

[DRW Dominance 255]

Without flipping through 25 pages, why no Kronner or Homer?

[puckloo39 5,686]

And ff you can I have a question for you: "what made you eat the damn line combos!?!"

I got it, if no one else did.

I missed the entire game but it sounds like Huddie played well.

[Gizmo 21]

Without flipping through 25 pages, why no Kronner or Homer?

Homer developed back spasms on game day. Kronner had a sore ankle and rested as a precaution.

Edited November 21, 2008 by Gizmo

[hillbillywingsfan 794]

And ff you can I have a question for you: "what made you eat the damn line combos!?!"

i love line combos...yum

[Johnny Law 15]

i love line combos...yum

The pizza pretzel ones are good too

Pretty good game for the Wings, certainly difficult to find motivation when your up by 3.

I have only one gripe, Can someone for the love of god please tell Kopy to zip up his frigin pants.

[Casey 145]

Exactly. He had all of 2 or 3 games to prove himself on the second line, and I doubt he even had 16+ minutes in that role anyway. And here are people saying he failed and can't score on a scoring line.

Hudler= GUN.

I'd hold onto Hudler pretty tight come contract time. I'd be willing to bet he starts getting more ice time- he's showing that he truly deserves it.

[FinRedWing 172]

I'd like to see them win 14-3,but I'll go with boring 4-3.

W

Go Wings!

[The Mule 0]

Just a note for all of you who feel Hudler should be on the fourth line:

Red Wings forward scoring, arranged by points per game:

1. Marian Hossa 18GP, 10g-13a-23pt, +6 (1.28PPG)

2. Henrik Zetterberg 16GP, 10g-8a-18pt, +2 (1.13PPG)

3. Pavel Datsyuk 18GP, 6g-12a-18pt, +7 (1.00PPG)

4. Johan Franzen, 13GP, 9g-3a-12pt, E (0.92PPG)

5. Jiri Hudler 18GP, 6g-10a-16pt, -2 (0.89PPG)

5. Mikael Samuelsson 18GP, 4g-12a-16pt, +1 (0.89PPG)

7. Tomas Holmstrom 17GP, 7g-6a-13pt, +8 (0.76PPG)

8. Dan Cleary, 13GP, 2g-4a-6pt, -3 (0.46PPG)

9. Valtteri Filppula, 18GP, 2g-5a-7pt, -1 (0.39PPG)

10. Tomas Kopecky, 18GP, 1g-2a-3pt, E (0.17PPG)

11. Kirk Maltby, 17GP, 1g-1a-2pt, E (0.12PPG)

12. Darren McCarty, 11GP, 1g-0a-1pt, -2 (0.09PPG)

13. Kris Draper, 18GP, 0g-1a-1a, -8 (0.06PPG)

14. Darren Helm, 2GP, 0g-0a-0pt, E (0.00PPG)

If Franzen fails to post a point next game, and Hudler registers one, Hudler moves into fourth on the list. Given that Franzen plays a lot of minutes with a guy ahead of him on the list, and Hudler does not, as well as the difference in overall minutes played, I wonder if we'll be seeing a 'Hudler is a Top 20 NHL forward' thread soon.

Hudler has been great, we all know that, but be aware Franzen has played five less games than Jiri, so what exactly is your point? They both deserve their fair share of ice time, but Franzen undoubtedly deserves more.

[j.hoop 64]

i agree with you EVA, hudler has been beastly with his limited TOI. but you know his showing up last night has gotta mean something to babcock. i like to think that babcock is a coach that gives you an inch and expects you take a mile. hudler definitely took a mile last night. he had great positioning on that first goal, and great will and vision on the second. i hope he gets more time, he has earned it.