Support Chris Osgood (and the Detroit Red Wings)

[OsGOD 3]

I guess i am different... Ozzie (or any player for that matter) doesn't have to be bringing his a-game for me to support him. I hate fake people like that. I used to like so and so but he isn't leading the league in goals or GAA now i can't stand them...

Hahaha "fake it" is a good song for them to listen too...

Go Ozzie!

[MaynardJKeenan 1]

Is Ozzy struggling a bit right now? Yeah. Do I still have faith in him come playoff time?

Hell ******* yeah!! Don't F with the Wizz.

[GoWings1905 2,694]

It was a quick google search that produced the results showing that Osgood had the same inconsistencies in 2002 that he is having right now is all. If the past is so irrelevant then then so in mentioning his play in last years play offs. And apparently the "what have you done for me lately" theory is also applying to the coaching staff and every other objective fan that doesn't wear rose coloured glasses. If his game has been so good and consistent throughout his career then why would he seek a goalie coach to help him re-structure his game despite all his great achievements? Did he think it would look good on his resume?

You have never tried to better or improve yourself in life?

[egroen 384]

Correction. One will win you a cup, the other will be given the cup!

I completely disagree. If Osgood was playing like he is right now in the playoffs last year the Wings do not make it out of the first round. Hasek last year proved that "anyone's grandma" would not look good in goal on the Red Wings, and Osgood is proving it right now. He has sucked, and his numbers suck. If he does not start playing better, the Wings are not winning the Cup this year. I have faith he will turn it around.

[soultrain 43]

eh no. Wings won the cup despite of him, not because of him. You could had put any decent goalie for wings last season and they would still win. Osgood is washed up at this point. I mean, the guy rarely has a save % in the 0.90s

DETROIT DOES NOT NEED A GREAT GOALIE. the d-men are slacking. ozzy was in goal winning the cup this last year. all the horrible things i said about him growing up, i took back last june.

Edited December 5, 2008 by soultrain

[OsGOD 3]

It was a quick google search that produced the results showing that Osgood had the same inconsistencies in 2002 that he is having right now is all. If the past is so irrelevant then then so in mentioning his play in last years play offs. And apparently the "what have you done for me lately" theory is also applying to the coaching staff and every other objective fan that doesn't wear rose coloured glasses. If his game has been so good and consistent throughout his career then why would he seek a goalie coach to help him re-structure his game despite all his great achievements? Did he think it would look good on his resume?

Wow so what are you still typeing on the green screen computer.. news flash... they came out with color a few years later... its a very nice IMPROVEMENT.

You don't get far in any career thinking what you know now is the "most" you will ever have to do... just doesn't work that way, continual improvement is needed in pretty much every walk of life.

[The Secret 304]

You have never tried to better or improve yourself in life?

Of course I do, all the time. I'm taking a certification class right now to add to what I already know.

Thats why they practice, to improve themselves. Practicing is like doing your homework to keep yourself sharp and continue learning. Hiring a specialized goalie coach to help re-structure your game is like hiring a tutor because there is something your not getting and you need them to watch you and show you what your doing wrong and how to do it another way.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Of course I do, all the time. I'm taking a certification class right now to add to what I already know.

Thats why they practice, to improve themselves. Practicing is like doing your homework to keep yourself sharp and continue learning. Hiring a specialized goalie coach to help re-structure your game is like hiring a tutor because there is something your not getting and you need them to watch you and show you what your doing wrong and how to do it another way.

Semantics. He was good enough to win before, improved his game, and won after.

[lets go pavel 2]

Of course I do, all the time. I'm taking a certification class right now to add to what I already know.

Thats why they practice, to improve themselves. Practicing is like doing your homework to keep yourself sharp and continue learning. Hiring a specialized goalie coach to help re-structure your game is like hiring a tutor because there is something your not getting and you need them to watch you and show you what your doing wrong and how to do it another way.

Doesn't someone teach your certification class? And perhaps the purpose of said teacher is to help you learn or enhance some skills that were previously lacking? Hmmm ...

[GoWings1905 2,694]

Of course I do, all the time. I'm taking a certification class right now to add to what I already know.

Thats why they practice, to improve themselves. Practicing is like doing your homework to keep yourself sharp and continue learning. Hiring a specialized goalie coach to help re-structure your game is like hiring a tutor because there is something your not getting and you need them to watch you and show you what your doing wrong and how to do it another way.

There's still nothing wrong with it. I would say in Ozzie's case the "tutoring" worked. It made Ozzie a champion again and in convincing fashion.

[OsGOD 3]

Of course I do, all the time. I'm taking a certification class right now to add to what I already know.

Thats why they practice, to improve themselves. Practicing is like doing your homework to keep yourself sharp and continue learning. Hiring a specialized goalie coach to help re-structure your game is like hiring a tutor because there is something your not getting and you need them to watch you and show you what your doing wrong and how to do it another way.

So now we find faults in players that are aware they are lacking in certain areas and do what ever necessesary to improve in those areas.... Odd... very odd....

[Guest Crymson]

eh no. Wings won the cup despite of him, not because of him. You could had put any decent goalie for wings last season and they would still win. Osgood is washed up at this point. I mean, the guy rarely has a save % in the 0.90s

Typical BS. Care to name the soft goals he let in?

osgood doesnt deserve this much love when he plays bad. Red wings limit the shots total to 20 shots a game sometimes, and yet osgood lets in 3-4 goals on that. Unacceptable.

And that lends credence to your completely ludicrous comment about his performance in the playoffs last season, eh?

Regardless, I think you're seriously missing the point of this thread.

Edited December 5, 2008 by Crymson

[Frozen-Man 144]

I don't remember mentioning Mike Vernon.... I thought we were talking about Chris OsBad

My point concerns how you determine who sucks.

[The Secret 304]

Doesn't someone teach your certification class? And perhaps the purpose of said teacher is to help you learn or enhance some skills that were previously lacking? Hmmm ...

There sure is a teacher and he is teaching me thing that I did not know before. I'm not asking him to teach me what I already know again.

Good for Osgood for taking the initiative. I'm not knocking it at all. But it was sort of an admission from him that his play was not cutting it.

....maybe he should get some night classes right now!

[Frozen-Man 144]

I guess i am different... Ozzie (or any player for that matter) doesn't have to be bringing his a-game for me to support him. I hate fake people like that. I used to like so and so but he isn't leading the league in goals or GAA now i can't stand them...

Hahaha "fake it" is a good song for them to listen too...

Go Ozzie!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Frozen-Man 144]

As long as we are quoting the Red Wings on how they feel about Ozzy here's what Babcock thinks about him:

"I'm not concerned one bit as long as he gives himself a break," said Babcock. "He's a real good goalie, knows how to play. Just by his numbers, you know he knows how to win. But to me, he's been way too hard on himself. Letting one goal affect him mindset instead of just don't let it get under you, don't let it get through you, get on with it. That's how simple it is. He's that good."

"Just look at his numbers[?]" THAT STUPID BABCOCK WHAT DOES HE KNOW. Ozzy has always been horrible and has only been propped up by great teams and has rarely been above 90%. I can't believe that Babcock hasn't been fired because of his rose tinted glasses - if he were as smart as some people at LGW he would know that Osgood is so bad that we should call him Osbad, his is not a good goalie, doesn't know how to win, has horrible number, and he's not good at all. :crybaby:

[SDavis35 140]

As long as we are quoting the Red Wings on how they feel about Ozzy here's what Babcock thinks about him:

"I'm not concerned one bit as long as he gives himself a break," said Babcock. "He's a real good goalie, knows how to play. Just by his numbers, you know he knows how to win. But to me, he's been way too hard on himself. Letting one goal affect him mindset instead of just don't let it get under you, don't let it get through you, get on with it. That's how simple it is. He's that good."

"Just look at his numbers[?]" THAT STUPID BABCOCK WHAT DOES HE KNOW. Ozzy has always been horrible and has only been propped up by great teams and has rarely been above 90%. I can't believe that Babcock hasn't been fired because of his rose tinted glasses - if he were as smart as some people at LGW he would know that Osgood is so bad that we should call him Osbad, his is not a good goalie, doesn't know how to win, has horrible number, and he's not good at all. :crybaby:

0.906 Sv% in his career is pretty good, even better (.914) in the playoffs.

He's also #12(?) in # of wins. His numbers are good! Babcock tells the truth. Did you know Patrick Roy (arguably the best retired goaltender) has a worse GAA than Osgood? Good D or not, Ozzie bailed us out a few times in the playoffs last year.

Ozzie's not having a good season, the Wings have to work around it. Good teams will find a way to win.

[Frozen-Man 144]

0.906 Sv% in his career is pretty good, even better (.914) in the playoffs.

He's also #12(?) in # of wins. His numbers are good! Babcock tells the truth. Did you know Patrick Roy (arguably the best retired goaltender) has a worse GAA than Osgood? Good D or not, Ozzie bailed us out a few times in the playoffs last year.

Ozzie's not having a good season, the Wings have to work around it. Good teams will find a way to win.

Um yeah, reread my post - it was sarcastic. I have been defending Ozzy throughout the thread, that post was mocking others.

[Guest Crymson]

To be a #1 goalie takes being a great goaltender consistently which he does not seem to be able to do. When he is on he's great, # 1 like. When he is off, he is God aweful. When he is off he not only loses his own confidence but that of his teams as well. Like he is doing right now. He will play better at some point but who knows when and for how long! Thats not going to give the rest of the team the confidence it needs either.

Yes, and then, should he step up his game and do well this season, you'll simply act as if you're happy with it but that you're just waiting for him to screw up again.

Defensive pessimism much?

[IceMunkee 15]

All I have to say on it is last year another goalie went through a similar slump. Alot of us crucified him. Some of you have such a man love for Ozzy that I have heard and read a few saying that it is all on the d... All on Lidstrom. Let's get serious.

[OsGOD 3]

All I have to say on it is last year another goalie went through a similar slump. Alot of us crucified him. Some of you have such a man love for Ozzy that I have heard and read a few saying that it is all on the d... All on Lidstrom. Let's get serious.

You sir are an ass! (just kidding) hehe

But really have you seen our "d" lately... they make me chuckle when i see them on tv and giggle even more when i am at the games watching... they don't look at all like the same d we had last season... yet all the names on the back are the same... its not a matter of either of the goalies making them look bad... goalies can't cough up pucks in the corners (they would get a penalty for being back there )

Its not all the D and its not all the G... its a rather blending of the two.

[Bulls Tender 0]

I can't believe how many short term memories there are in this forum. In case everyone has forgotten, this guy just helped us win a cup last year, went to an all-star game, took home a jennings trophy, probablly the runner up for conn smythe, and led the league in gaa. Ozzie will eventually have the wins record for goalies in Detroit, and if so, will probablly have his number retired next to Sawchuck's and be inducted into the HHOF. Numbers inflated or not, the guy wins games! So he's going through a slump right now, it's not like the wings are losing every night. The wings needs to tighten up defensivley and help him through his slump and I'm pretty sure they know that.

For everyone that thinks we could have won a cup with any goalie last year, that may or may not be true, however, this guy was ROCK SOLID in the playoffs when we needed him to step up. No soft goals in the post season last year, you can't say that about many goalies. Remember Manny, Cujo, Dom??? Marty Turco is also struggling in Dallas but I don't hear their fans trying to run him out of town. Lets give Ozzie some support. He's a veteran goalie that will bounce back, Go Wings

[Frozen-Man 144]

All I have to say on it is last year another goalie went through a similar slump. Alot of us crucified him. Some of you have such a man love for Ozzy that I have heard and read a few saying that it is all on the d... All on Lidstrom. Let's get serious.

I don't think many would claim that Ozzy has played good this year - he has not. What many are saying is the D hasn't been good and Ozzy hasn't been good BUT Ozzy is a good goalie. Last year when another goalie was going through a similar slump not many said he had never been good, was one of the worst goalies, or that he didn't deserve his wins or his stats. That is what I don't like, not that people criticize his play lately or think he is in a slump but the contention that he has never been good at all.

[AtomicPunk 296]

Let's get real.

There are 3 younger defensemen in expanded roles, Lilja, Kronwall, and Lebda. Will the D get better when Chelios returns? Maybe. The blame is not squarely on Lidstrom, or the entire D, but they have played better as a unit than they are right now.

Secondly. Forwards need to play defence too. The lines are not the same as last year and maybe they aren't getting back like they used to. Again, tough to say.

Third, and most important, Ozzie needs to get his groove back. Once he does, I have a feeling some people here will be changing their tune right quick.

Did everyone just forget the game this week where they won 2-1 and had the "lockdown defence"?

Before you bury him in a mountain of convenient stats, (and believe me, they look bad), just give the guy time to work out of it. if we were in a 5-game losing streak, this would be more understandable. I don't have Os-love, but he is better than this, we all know it, and we have all seen it. And we cheered him when we saw it.

[OsGOD 3]

Sure he gave up a goal quick last night... but by god did you see the diving save he made shortly after... Its fitting how fans can go to YOU SUCK to OZZIE OZZIE in like 3 seconds flat....

Then again we are talking about people who only start the "lets go red wings" chant after a goal is scored now. I was lmao when Mickey was commenting how times have changed... "usually its the chant and the team builds off that and scores... not its the team has to score for it to happen"