12/6 GDT: Red Wings 5, Blackhawks 4 (SO)

[YoungGuns1340 1]

If Cleary continues to play the way he is, I can see a trade or two to improve our defense.

Im pissed Brian Rafalski has a NTC. Offense is not our problem. Defense in our own zone is the problem. I would kill for a guy like Anton Volchenkov on this team. And Ottawa just so happens to be looking for a puck moving Dman. Every time Rafalski gets pushed off the puck, lets a guy get pass him and move into the slot, and doesnt keep the puck in, it reminds me of the reason Holland didnt offer 5+ million to Schneider.

Someone didnt do their homework, because Rafalski isnt much better, if at all.

Edited December 7, 2008 by YoungGuns1340

[NC WINGS FAN 5]

WGN has the game on for thopse of us that live outside the Detroit area.

I wish!! they are showing some *** Santa Clause movie And VS, who is supposed to show all of the best hockey match-ups, is showing that movie "Any Given Sunday" It is one of the best rivalries in sports and no one is showing it WTF!!!

[VM1138 1,921]

Cleary has been underperforming for whatever reason since hsi injury last year. If he can't recover from it, maybe his time with us is nearing an end.

But there are others I'd drop first: Lebda and Kopecky. Trade them for a competent 6th defenseman.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Players need to be benched. Plain and simple. So-called STAR players need to be benched. A message needs to be sent. I'm so glad I haven't had the misfortune to watch this game like the rest of you (streaming feed died for me), but your descriptions set the tone. This team doesn't want it. Maybe Hossa. But the rest? Not a chance.

Thats something you fix through trades. Since we have no cap space, we either sit on a spolied group of guys, or we make a substantial trade for some hunger, work ethic, and energy.

[isbister 0]

Wings need to get there s*** together!!! We look slow tonight and why are we having so much trouble on the power play? We cant even get the puck in and set up??? Dang I hope we have a strong 3rd. By the way, I miss Drake he would go and make something happen with a big hit or a strong hustle play in a game like this. Oh well, COME ON BOYS!!!

[Hockeytown Red Wings 245]

Im pissed Brian Rafalski has a NTC. Offense is not our problem. Defense in our own zone is the problem. I would kill for a guy like Anton Volchenkov on this team. And Ottawa just so happens to be looking for a puck moving Dman. Every time Rafalski gets pushed off the puck, lets a guy get pass him and move into the slot, and doesnt keep the puck in, it reminds me of the reason Holland didnt offer 5+ million to Schneider.

Someone didnt do their homework, because Rafalski isnt much better, if at all.

I'd like to give the guy a break because he was pretty solid in the playoffs this year, but I've said, "WTF Rafalski?!" more times than anything.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I wish!! they are showing some *** Santa Clause movie And VS, who is supposed to show all of the best hockey match-ups, is showing that movie "Any Given Sunday" It is one of the best rivalries in sports and no one is showing it WTF!!!

I'm pretty sure the next Wings game on Versus is one against the Avs, which shows how Versus is about 10 years behind when it comes to knowing where the rivalries are at in the NHL.

[Hockeytown Red Wings 245]

Could someone explain to me why Tomas Kopecky takes up a roster spot that could be going to Darren Helm?

[GSBrooks13 204]

Could someone explain to me why Tomas Kopecky takes up a roster spot that could be going to Darren Helm?

I hear he gives a mean hand job.

[ShanahanMan 473]

Could someone explain to me why Tomas Kopecky takes up a roster spot that could be going to Darren Helm?

Helm? I'm still aching for some Leino action.

[isbister 0]

Could someone explain to me why Tomas Kopecky takes up a roster spot that could be going to Darren Helm?

I respect the fact that your a Wing fan, but you gotta change that stupid avatar.

[commadore183 103]

Players need to be benched. Plain and simple. So-called STAR players need to be benched. A message needs to be sent. I'm so glad I haven't had the misfortune to watch this game like the rest of you (streaming feed died for me), but your descriptions set the tone. This team doesn't want it. Maybe Hossa. But the rest? Not a chance.

That and haroldsnepsts' post (that the wings need to be in a big lossing streak to wake up) would most likely help. Something needs to be done to get some consistency on this team. We do well in the first and seconds, then flush it down the toilet in the 4rd. Play crappy in the first 2 periods and explode in the 3rd. Offense is good, but the D is so terrible inconsistent that I would most likely like it to not exist at all, at least we won't be continuously disappointed with their plays.

Edited December 7, 2008 by commadore183

[Yak19 303]

Ok so im listening to this game at work and i just couldnt wait to get home and see the comments because i knew i would agree with almost all of them. CAN THIS TEAM HOLD A F#CKING LEAD EVER?????????? I mean how do you blow a game in the first period? This team is playing defensively/goaltending wise as bad as it gets. Craig Anderson is stopping 40 shots a night for Florida but we let a mediocre team already put 4 in. We got our 2 goals from secondary scoring and the team doesn't get fired up to play some shut'em down hockey, seriously? If not for a terrible call at the end of the last game against the Canucks they probably would have fu&ked that up too. This team needs to wake the f0ck up. They better get their s*** together for the 3rd and win this or it will be another embarrassing loss.

[big_D 0]

The wild are looking for offence maybe trade sammy and cleary for a defence guy???

[YoungGuns1340 1]

I'd like to give the guy a break because he was pretty solid in the playoffs this year, but I've said, "WTF Rafalski?!" more times than anything.

I dont want to make it sound like I'm ungrateful for having him - hes a great offensive defenseman. But do we need offensive defenseman? We need Dmen who can make a decent outlet pass, but we dont need pretty passes and goals from our Dmen. What we really need are Dmen who police the slot and the front of the net. What we need are Dmen who can pin any forward in along the boards. What we need are guys who are willing to fight for the puck - be the first man on the puck.

This team needs a few more hard-hat players. The said thing is, I dont expect any trades out of this team outside of maybe a minor move. This eerily reminds me of the years where we as fans cried for hard-working, gritty players and nothing came from Holland until we had suffered through 2 or 3 bad playoff oustings.

[ShanahanMan 473]

i can't wait for us to play the Sharks again.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

The wild are looking for offence maybe trade sammy and cleary for a defence guy???

We can't add defensemen if we dont move one.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Here comes our wonderful PK unit.

[ShanahanMan 473]

We can't add defensemen if we dont move one.

The sad part is that these are GOOD defensemen playing BADLY.

[commadore183 103]

Kronnic with interference. Wings sieve coming up.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Too bad this penalty came with 16 minutes left. If we had about 3 minutes left, I could hope for a shortie, knowing our team only likes to turn it on in the last few minutes.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Obviously not on the PK, but it'd be great to see the Wings throwing some hits on a team that actually may be smaller than them.

[redwing_sparty 0]

i'd suggest moving lebda and cleary. sammy gets a lot of points even though he screws up a ton too. bring in a solid 30+ year old dman who hasn't won a cup.

[CanadaBoy 151]

4 on 4

[commadore183 103]

4v4 for 42 seconds.