Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 Indeed. If that's the case the we will probably be seeing one of Howard or Larsson start a game. Get well soon Oz. Most likely Howard, although I've heard good things about Larsson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 They would have to put Ozzie on the Long term IR wouldn't they to have cap room to bring up Howard or Larssen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 They would have to put Ozzie on the Long term IR wouldn't they to have cap room to bring up Howard or Larssen? If they don't put him on long term IR the roster is full and they can't bring Howard or Larssen up unless they send someone down who would likely get picked up on waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwing_sparty 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 never like seeing anyone get hurt. but i would like to see if bringing howard or larsson up could change things up a bit. i'm glad they're going back to dhh for the top line. hossa is a beast with dats' passing. the team needs shake up. they look lethargic. its really getting frustrating to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cern 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 Waaaait a second. If Ozzie is likely out for three weeks or so, then Conk-block is likely to start the Winter Classic. AGAIN 0_0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 I love all the calls for Larsson with virtually no proof to back it up. The guy has zero professional playing experience and some people want him to be called up to a team thats a Stanley Cup favorite yet its defense isn't playing anywhere near that calibre. Doesn't sound like a recipe I'd wanna make anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 Waive Kopecky...for the love of god waive him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwedeLundin77 460 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 I love all the calls for Larsson with virtually no proof to back it up. The guy has zero professional playing experience and some people want him to be called up to a team thats a Stanley Cup favorite yet its defense isn't playing anywhere near that calibre. Doesn't sound like a recipe I'd make anytime soon. You're being ignorant.... zero professional experience? Last time I checked AHL is professional hockey. He has good stats with Grand Rapids thus far, better than Howard, so LOGIC would dictate that if you need to bring someone up, you bring up who is playing better, it's all temporary anyway. By your method, players would not develop because you wouldn't challenge them and give them opportunity, otherwise what is the point? You would rather leave Larsson down in the minors for several years instead of the possibility that maybe he has something beneficial to his game that goes beyond experience? Ever look around the league and see how many inexperienced goaltenders on weaker teams are having breakout years? Didn't think so. I'm really unbiased about who we bring up, because I think both Howard and Larsson are qualified, but once again, LOGIC dictates you bring up the hotter hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 Get well soon, Oz. He'll come back at the top of his game. It's good he's gonna rest up a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 Get well soon Ozzie. Come back stronger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hocketownwest 11 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 He's been playing poorly and now gets a groin injury, interesting Might as well bring up Larson and give him a try, Thursdays game will most likely be a loss anyway based on the way they have been playing lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 You're being ignorant.... zero professional experience? Last time I checked AHL is professional hockey. He has good stats with Grand Rapids thus far, better than Howard, so LOGIC would dictate that if you need to bring someone up, you bring up who is playing better, it's all temporary anyway. By your method, players would not develop because you wouldn't challenge them and give them opportunity, otherwise what is the point? You would rather leave Larsson down in the minors for several years instead of the possibility that maybe he has something beneficial to his game that goes beyond experience? Ever look around the league and see how many inexperienced goaltenders on weaker teams are having breakout years? Didn't think so. I'm really unbiased about who we bring up, because I think both Howard and Larsson are qualified, but once again, LOGIC dictates you bring up the hotter hand. I don't know why you have to go on with the name calling. NFM made a legitimate argument, whether you agree with it or not. His point is the guy has played about 1/3 of a season part time in the AHL. Is it a good idea to bring a guy up for his first stint in the NHL when the team is giving up 3+ goals a game behind veteran goalies. That might not be good for the psyche of a goalie his first time around. Who knows maybe he excels, maybe the guys rally around him his first few times out and it unifies the team and it is great, or maybe he gets shellacked for 5 or 6 goals in his first couple of games and his confidence is shot for a while to come. Howard on the other hand has been up to the NHL before and might not feel quite the pressure or might not be affected by letting in a lot of goals. You may disagree with NFM's statement but it is far from ignorant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedUp 29 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 Chances are that we'll see either Howard or Larson next weekend in one of the back-to-back games. That is, indeed, if Ozzie is a no-go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 17, 2008 3 weeks... man, that's a long time. I thought this was gonna be a few days kinda thing, Ozzie is gonna have a real hard time getting his game back now. This SUCKS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsallwin 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 It is sad that Ozzie is injured. I don't know how you guys will think of me but this is the situation that I really wished to happen. Ozzie has been just horrible this season but I hope this injury and break time will bring his game back. I hope we can see both Howard and Larsson's performance, not only one goalie. Howard was impressive last season but this season he is pretty struggling. But I think he is a pretty solid goalie as I watched the game between Wings and Habs in the pre-season. I never saw the Larsson's play but it sounds from you guys that he is playing great. Conklin allowed 4 goals against the Sharks in last game so I hope our rookie goalie can start the game against the Sharks on Thursday. It will be our real test that where we are exactly at. No excuse for winning against the Sharks No excuse for losing against the Sharks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
South Dakota wings fan 7 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Waive Kopecky...for the love of god waive him. The problem then is losing him for nothing. I have been a little disappointed with him this year. Kopy was playing so well last spring when he got hurt. I think if they choose not to bring him back next year, we can at least get a draft pick for him since he is a RFA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 If Osgood goes on LTIR, I think that would be the perfect test for Howard. Play him every few games as Conkin's backup, and see what he can do for a long period in the NHL. You never know until they play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Get well soon Ozzie. I don't know why most people are so excited about Larsson or Howard possibly being called up to the Red Wings. The Red Wings defense is garbage - that is hardly an ideal situation for two goalies with zero and minimal NHL experience to be stepping into. Losing Ozzie isn't going to suddenly cure giving up three or four goals each game. If the Red Wings don't play with some effort tomorrow night, it won't matter who is in goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Get well soon Ozzie. I don't know why most people are so excited about Larsson or Howard possibly being called up to the Red Wings. The Red Wings defense is garbage - that is hardly an ideal situation for two goalies with zero and minimal NHL experience to be stepping into. Losing Ozzie isn't going to suddenly cure giving up three or four goals each game. If the Red Wings don't play with some effort tomorrow night, it won't matter who is in goal. I think it might, GoWings. The problem with the Team play has been that they've been lazy and, and decidedly lacking in consistent work ethic. The loss of their #1 goaltender will force them out of their bad habits, and into a more simplified and responsible game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 I think it might, GoWings. The problem with the Team play has been that they've been lazy and, and decidedly lacking in consistent work ethic. The loss of their #1 goaltender will force them out of their bad habits, and into a more simplified and responsible game. That's a good point and I really hope you are right. I have my doubts though as the Red Wings have been just as lazy in front of Conklin on defense as they have for Ozzie. I am not sure anything will force the Red Wings out of their poor habits except some roster changes or a major losing streak. They are bored with the regular season and it's showing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 As an aside..... If Osgood is, indeed, out for a longer term than just a few Games, then let's hope Conklin can break his "jinx". Conklin has played in two "Heritage/Winter Classic" games. Both times he played due to an injury to the starting goaltender. Both times his Team made it to the Stanley Cup Finals that year. Both times his Team went home without the Cup. ***unjinx*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grateful Gadsby 10 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Ozzie out with groin Whose groin is he out with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Whose groin is he out with? <badumbum> (where's that rimshot when you need it?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Rule_1010 4 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) I don't know about anyone else, but unless Howard has gotten better since his last stint with the Wings, I am nervous. All I can picture is like his first shot against (maybe L.A.) looking like it went it, but he had actually lifted the net and it didn't count. He looked very very shaky. But who knows, I haven't really watched him play in GR. I don't know, but maybe having an unexperienced goalie in net will force the defense to pay more attention to detail and work harder. Edited December 18, 2008 by Wings_Rule_1010 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Starting tommorow, Ozzie will be on the LTIR for the Winter Classic, go figure. Conklin will have played all three because of injury, haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
