GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) GMR, you are officially my favorite poster Oh and the biggest thing in the Franzen vs Hudler debate is size, at the end of the day we need Franzens big body and physical play to go along with his skill, whereas Hudler has the skill and the work ethic but just isnt the physical presence, if we had a forward crop with more size and physicality then that point is moot and you'd keep Hudler, but it isnt. That makes two of us. Now if I can only turn the other ten thousand or so posters. Edited January 12, 2009 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Lol. Don't worry Reem. Sandy either has a learning disability or just a s***ty liar. My favourite: Wow, you have the time and inadequacy in your life to spend hours researching some random posts made from some random poster from a year ago just to "prove" something? You must be a lonely, lonely person with no real life. I almost feel sorry for you. But I don't, really you should get an education, find a job, and move out of your mom's basement. How sad. P.S. You really should stop obsessing and get a hamster or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Wow, you have the time and inadequacy in your life to spend hours researching some random posts made from some random poster from a year ago just to "prove" something? You must be a lonely, lonely person with no real life. I almost feel sorry for you. But I don't, really you should get an education, find a job, and move out of your mom's basement. How sad. P.S. You really should stop obsessing and get a hamster or something. Ad hominem attacks because someone looked at your post history and dug up a few quotes? Good work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Ad hominem attacks because someone looked at your post history and dug up a few quotes? Good work. Whatever dude. Anyone who has time and ineptitude to spend hours digging through 10s-of-thousands of posts from years ago is pretty homely. I'm glad that I don't have that kind of time in my life or I'd kill myself. Do you remember what you did or what you said on June 7th 2007? Sure, I didn't like Jiri Hudler back on June 7th 2007... I am guilty! But for some jobless isolated lowlife to dig up some random posts from some random poster said on some random message forum over a year ago.. wow just WOW! I guess for someone with no life and no friends and no job that's an accomplishment then? Great work! You just busted a forum poster, you're momma should be proud! Oh, and Kenny Holland and Co. would be proud too! Dammit, I have to work tomorrow ... life is so unfair to some of us with a real life. Edited January 12, 2009 by MrSandMan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerman191 37 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Whatever dude. Anyone who has time and ineptitude to spend hours digging through 10s-of-thousands of posts from years ago is pretty homely. I'm glad that I don't have that kind of time in my life or I'd kill myself. Do you remember what you did or what you said on June 7th 2007? Sure, I didn't like Jiri Hudler back on June 7th 2007... I am guilty! But for some jobless isolated lowlife to dig up some random posts from some random poster said on some random message forum over a year ago.. wow just WOW! I guess for someone with no life and no friends and no job that's an accomplishment then? Great work! You just busted a forum poster, you're momma should be proud! Oh, and Kenny Holland and Co. would be proud too! Dammit, I have to work tomorrow ... life is so unfair to some of us with a real life. Haha, don't insult him just because he called you out. And honestly, using the search function, it really doesn't take very long! Take it like a man; eat your crow. Your response has been absolutely pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Whatever dude. Anyone who has time and ineptitude to spend hours digging through 10s-of-thousands of posts from years ago is pretty homely. I'm glad that I don't have that kind of time in my life or I'd kill myself. Do you remember what you did or what you said on June 7th 2007? Sure, I didn't like Jiri Hudler back on June 7th 2007... I am guilty! But for some jobless isolated lowlife to dig up some random posts from some random poster said on some random message forum over a year ago.. wow just WOW! I guess for someone with no life and no friends and no job that's an accomplishment then? Great work! You just busted a forum poster, you're momma should be proud! Oh, and Kenny Holland and Co. would be proud too! Dammit, I have to work tomorrow ... life is so unfair to some of us with a real life. the ineptitude is in thinking that he has to dig through threads from years ago to find your posts. All he has to do is to go to your post history and look back x numbers of pages. It even shows the thread name. Also, you have no idea about who he or anyone else around here is- no life, no friends, no job? How the f*** do you know that? Assuming makes and ass out of you and mostly you. Edited January 12, 2009 by ComradeWasabi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Like I've said before, down one late in the game, Hudler's one of the guys I want with the puck. If it comes down to Franzen or Z and Hudler, or Hossa, I'll let Hossa walk 10 out of 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Haha, don't insult him just because he called you out. And honestly, using the search function, it really doesn't take very long! Take it like a man; eat your crow. Your response has been absolutely pathetic. IF search is so "easy" then that doggy fagot would have known (and posted) that I did eat crow earlier this year ... but I guess that didn't fit into that pricks "agenda". Go ahead and dig my past posts and you'll find my official "eat crow" post. Like I said, his momma and Kenny Holland would be so PROUD! Lol @ digging up posts from 2 years ago! What a deadbeat loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 I definitely think Hudler is underrated in the sense that if I were to say to a non-RW fan "man, Hudler is awesome right now!", they'd probably be like.. "..who?". And you can't really blame them, with all the quality we have in this team a guy like Hudler can easily be overlooked. I really, really hope we can keep him though. The way him and Filppula are playing together is really becoming a bit of our "secret weapon". You just don't expect a third line to have that kind of quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted January 12, 2009 All he has to do is to go to your post history and look back x numbers of pages. It even shows the thread name. Show me how easy and fast it is... What did I say about Robert Lang 2-3 years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Show me how easy and fast it is... What did I say about Robert Lang 2-3 years ago? Sure. I'm starting to look now. I'll post something when I've found it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Here's one: LoL@ Lang being first star last night!!! Now I've heard and see it all. Let's throw a party, LANG SCORED A TIP!!!! Despite all the give aways, and bad passing he did.. and defensive liablility. Schnieds and Dom are not even a factor in last nights game, I totally see your logic! and another, this one in response to a Lang - Zednik trade rumour Wow! best news I heard all day... It's better than a bag a pucks, Hollnad should be jumping on this, now! I'll look for a couple more and add them in. edit: here Lang is teaching him well... way to go Langer!! ^ This one is in response to someone saying that Hudler looked lazy the night before. Who the f*ck cares about "landmark win streaks"? I'd be more concern about how lazy Lang is and how bad he sucks. -More I see him play, the more I hate that lazy fuker!!!! Somebody end his CAREER PLEASE!!!! FuKK! There you go. So, let's assume that I was cheating when I posted and said that I would start looking and that I started when you made your post. That means it took me a maximum of ten minutes to find four good examples of you hating on Lang. PS: I found a bunch of the examples of you hating on Hudler posted above in there when I was looking. Are we done here? Edited January 12, 2009 by ComradeWasabi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerman191 37 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 MrSandMan can welcome himself to my ignore list. After his comments in this thread, I think he should be glad if he doesn't get temporary ban. But then again, he's got too much of a life to spend time on an internet message board! Anyways, let's keep this thread about Hudler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Here's one: and another, this one in response to a Lang - Zednik trade rumour I'll look for a couple more and add them in. edit: here ^ This one is in response to someone saying that Hudler looked lazy the night before. There you go. So, let's assume that I was cheating when I posted and said that I would start looking and that I started when you made your post. That means it took me a maximum of ten minutes to find four good examples of you hating on Lang. PS: I found a bunch of the examples of you hating on Hudler posted above in there when I was looking. Are we done here? You also cheated by going through my profile. Doggy lover didn't visit my profile since Dec 21st. Is that 10 minutes of your life that you would like back? I ate a snack and posted an article on my website during that 10 minutes. Best part of my 10 minutes is I get paid for my efforts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 You also cheated by going through my profile. Doggy lover didn't visit my profile since Dec 21st. Is that 10 minutes of your life that you would like back? I ate a snack and posted an article on my website during that 10 minutes. Best part of my 10 minutes is I get paid for my efforts. Using the "find member's posts" button doesn't show up as a profile view, so it wouldn't say that he viewed your profile. It shows that I did because I actually did. anyways, yes, Jiri Hudler. Pound-for-pound, minute-for-minute, does anybody produce as much as he does with so little? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soultrain 43 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 fans love lil huds! he ain't going anywhere. i love the little guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 I'm gonna go with learning disability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Using the "find member's posts" button doesn't show up as a profile view, so it wouldn't say that he viewed your profile. It shows that I did because I actually did. anyways, yes, Jiri Hudler. Pound-for-pound, minute-for-minute, does anybody produce as much as he does with so little? I agree, he's been great and is really turning out to be an impact player. I'd still take Franzen over him if it came down to that choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 I agree, he's been great and is really turning out to be an impact player. I'd still take Franzen over him if it came down to that choice. Going purely on numbers, Hudler is the clear choice; that being said, I am having a hard time in my head losing Franzen and keeping Hudler. Franzen's big body is certainly valuable on the power play, and his shot is certainly underrated. Plus, there is the fact that if Hudler is signed to an offer sheet for any significant amount of money, the compensation will be pretty good. I want to say Hudler > Franzen, but I'm finding it strangely difficult to imagine giving up Franzen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 I will admit, I've never really liked Rex all that much. However, he does fit very well with the Wings. That being said, I think it's a product of the team more than it is his skill. I'm not saying he doesn't have the skills, but really look at it. He is playing on one of the best teams in the league, which is coached by arguably the best coaching staff in the league. He is playing behind Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Hossa, and Franzen. You could really throw Sammy and Cleary in there too. I think Rex does a great job of capitalizing on his opportunities, but I don't think he could put up numbers at the same rate he is now if he were the go to guy. He is the type of player who needs other skilled players around himself to be effective. He can't do it alone ala Datsyuk. Again, I'm not taking anything away from what he does, or his skills. I don't think he is underrated, and I don't think he is overrated. He is what he is. I think people think he is more than what he is because the Wings scouts are so good at finding guys who blossom into stars. Rex will never be 'the guy' on any team he plays for in the NHL. He has the ability and skill set to take advantage of his opportunities, but he is not a top 3 guy on any team in the NHL. Second line is his career potential. I also think the comparison between Rex and Flip is a bit outlandish. They play different styles, have skill sets, and more importantly, they have different roles on the team. Anyone who would pass on Hossa to keep Rex is foolish. If any player on the Wings is underrated, it's Cleary. Danny is the guys that keeps everyone going. He brings the rough and tumble game with some scoring touch. He's a poor man's power forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrSandMan Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Going purely on numbers, Hudler is the clear choice; that being said, I am having a hard time in my head losing Franzen and keeping Hudler. Franzen's big body is certainly valuable on the power play, and his shot is certainly underrated. Plus, there is the fact that if Hudler is signed to an offer sheet for any significant amount of money, the compensation will be pretty good. I want to say Hudler > Franzen, but I'm finding it strangely difficult to imagine giving up Franzen. Not only Franzen's size but his nose for the net along with his soft hands. Also gotta appreciate Franzen's solid defensive side of the game. All-in-all, he's a pretty rounded player (with size and strength). Oh, and his clutch performance in the playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 He doesn't get PP time because hes not as good offensively as 8 other players ahead of him. You're Finish. You're biased. End of story. I'm pretty sure that "YG1340's unbiased" wasn't the reason why you're the only person I've ever put on ignore here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Show me how easy and fast it is... What did I say about Robert Lang 2-3 years ago? I actually couldn't be arsed to do that but I certainly do remember our arguments on the topic of all things Bob were the stuff of legends. And whilst the clarity of hindsight has left me with mixed feelings about his time here, I will defend his honor to the grave. But this isn't about Bob, and it's barely about what it was originally about, so I'll say this: If Hudler were not so buried on the depth chart behind such a ludicrous cache of talent in Detroit, I feel like he could very well be putting up Datsyuk level numbers in the NHL. Of course, by this same token, if that handicap wasn't on Pavel, he could very well be putting up Malkin type numbers... But I digress, the little guy (I'm one to talk -- 5'4 and 100lbs ) is good. I do fear that some dips*** ******* GM will try and run up the pricetag on our Jiri if his contract isn't dealt with before free agency begins, and a player of his caliber can be taking in a pretty penny in today's NHL... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Boy, somebody looks like a real piece o' s*** in this thread... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinner 6 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 However guys, lets not forget the 2 magic words. Contract year Don't get me wrong, I love Huds and his Scrappy-dappy-doo attitude, but lets not get carried away. As for Hudler vs Flip - do you really think Huds could've shut down Malkin last year like Flip did? No, me neither. Flippers time will be next year when the roster is gutted by Free Agency. I don't think this is a good enough reason to keep Flip, I'm sure could find other ways to shut down Malkin. But don't get me wrong, I like Flip and think Huds and Flip are great linemates together. I wouldn't want to lose Flip but would chose Hudler over Filpula based on the way they are playing right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites